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I still think Canelo and AJ careers got built the way you're suppose to build em resume wise. Didn't rush em and fought tough ups on the way up to get em battle tested. I use them aa examples because they were identified as future stars early and they were build as such to perfection
And both suffered their first career losses (obviously at different times) and in Canelos Case has become an exponentially better fighter and in the short sample Size from AJ, he’s looking like he’s worked on his deficiencies and is a clear threat to Tyson Fury. 2 of the biggest names in the sport continuously improving things they have to work on... it’s such a beautiful thing
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Yup. I'm leaning towards El Terrible

He was a bad dude & he beat Pacquiao clean without any "controversy"

Morales all day.
I always felt he was the true fighter's fighter outta the bunch and was able to compete with the elite threats a lot longer than everybody else. MAB wasn't effective moving up and JMM for the most part was only effective against Pac. Morales was giving dudes like Swift n Chino problems. Beat Cano too, back before he was giving everyone tough fights.

Plus Morales was also competitive against a wide variety of styles. MAB and JMM not so much. Soon as you get some nikkas using the ring JMM gets stuck.
 

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Morales all day.
I always felt he was the true fighter's fighter outta the bunch and was able to compete with the elite threats a lot longer than everybody else. MAB wasn't effective moving up and JMM for the most part was only effective against Pac. Morales was giving dudes like Swift n Chino problems. Beat Cano too, back before he was giving everyone tough fights.

Plus Morales was also competitive against a wide variety of styles. MAB and JMM not so much. Soon as you get some nikkas using the ring JMM gets stuck.

Facts

I remember watching those fights he had with Swift & Chino & thinking he would've handled both of them 5 years prior. It's a shame we didn't get to see him fight JMM. I always thought he would beat him.

What did you think of the MAB vs JMM fight?
 

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3 of them had crazy highs and lows

too bad a marquez vs morales fight never happened

barrera was the only one ko'ed in his prime
morales slid fast after his best career victory but at least he had a last great fight
marquez was never ko'ed but he has the losses of ppl he shouldnt have lost too (norwood, chris john)

so many different things etc etc
 

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3 of them had crazy highs and lows

too bad a marquez vs morales fight never happened

barrera was the only one ko'ed in his prime
morales slid fast after his best career victory but at least he had a last great fight
marquez was never ko'ed but he has the losses of ppl he shouldnt have lost too (norwood, chris john)

so many different things etc etc
I recently came across that fight again. What an absolute stinker. I had heard from older heads HBO was really trying to push JMM before that.

And this bytch cried robbery :scust:

Matter fact that doesn't get talked about enough. Marquez cried like a bytch after damn near all his losses. People gave him a pass with the Pacquiao shyt simple because they wasn't fukking with Manny (Floyd bias) but I wonder how many of them knew that this was JMM's MO :francis:

Dude even cried like a bytch after the Bradley fight, claiming robbery in a fight he clearly lost :scusthov:

I wish he would have fought MAB and Morales when they were younger, so both guys could beat that shyt outta Marquez. fukk him :pacspit:
 

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I recently came across that fight again. What an absolute stinker. I had heard from older heads HBO was really trying to push JMM before that.

And this bytch cried robbery :scust:

Matter fact that doesn't get talked about enough. Marquez cried like a bytch after damn near all his losses. People gave him a pass with the Pacquiao shyt simple because they wasn't fukking with Manny (Floyd bias) but I wonder how many of them knew that this was JMM's MO :francis:

Dude even cried like a bytch after the Bradley fight, claiming robbery in a fight he clearly lost :scusthov:

I wish he would have fought MAB and Morales when they were younger, so both guys could beat that shyt outta Marquez. fukk him :pacspit:

Marquez got damn near KO'ed by MAB from a horrible no knockdown call. He arguably lost that fight
 

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Morales all day.
I always felt he was the true fighter's fighter outta the bunch and was able to compete with the elite threats a lot longer than everybody else. MAB wasn't effective moving up and JMM for the most part was only effective against Pac. Morales was giving dudes like Swift n Chino problems. Beat Cano too, back before he was giving everyone tough fights.

Plus Morales was also competitive against a wide variety of styles. MAB and JMM not so much. Soon as you get some nikkas using the ring JMM gets stuck.

ill never understand how dude gives pac a decisive defeat then goes and gets handled by zahir raheem..spoiler extraordinaire

but david diaz putting his foot in his ass was worse than that
 

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Marquez got damn near KO'ed by MAB from a horrible no knockdown call. He arguably lost that fight
Yep. I believe I scored it in a super close decision for Marquez. But that was an older MAB with a metal plate in his head. MAB from 2000 would have knocked his head off clean
 

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ill never understand how dude gives pac a decisive defeat then goes and gets handled by zahir raheem..spoiler extraordinaire

but david diaz putting his foot in his ass was worse than that

He clearly didn't getup for either of these guys lol. And Diaz fought his ass off that night

El Terrible turning southpaw several times on Pac & slugging it out was one of the best badass moments in boxing :wow:
 
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