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I've been really lacking when it comes to reading the past few months and I really want to buff up my boxing history.

Would anybody be down for a Coli Boxing Book Club?

1st of each month we'd vote for the one we'll read for the upcoming month (i.e. on Jan 1st you vote for February book so everyone has enough time to get a copy)

Vote thread for next month's book would also serve as discussion thread for current month's book once we've started.

If enough people are interested it's a go, if not I'll just stay solo with it :jbhmm::manny:
 

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I've been really lacking when it comes to reading the past few months and I really want to buff up my boxing history.

Would anybody be down for a Coli Boxing Book Club?

1st of each month we'd vote for the one we'll read for the upcoming month (i.e. on Jan 1st you vote for February book so everyone has enough time to get a copy)

Vote thread for next month's book would also serve as discussion thread for current month's book once we've started.

If enough people are interested it's a go, if not I'll just stay solo with it :jbhmm::manny:

man there are so many books i have in my tablet that i havent read...never mind boxing books :francis:

its hard to read for pleasure sometimes lol
 

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man there are so many books i have in my tablet that i havent read...never mind boxing books :francis:

its hard to read for pleasure sometimes lol

Facts, the older you get, the less time you get to read for pleasure and I'm a nikka that loves to read. :snoop:
 
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man there are so many books i have in my tablet that i havent read...never mind boxing books :francis:

its hard to read for pleasure sometimes lol

I'm in a similar boat. I feel great when I read and when I start reading it's hard to stop, but getting started/picking it back up is where I have to be more consistent.

That's why I wanted to propose the idea, since I don't think I'd be as willing to abandon a book if others were involved and keeping it relevant in my head.
 

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Stevenson: Heart Was Loma's Problem In Lopez Fight; Would Be Really Bad Mistake To Fight Me
By Keith Idec

Published On Thu Dec 10, 2020, 01:42 AM EST

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Vasiliy Lomachenko fought scared.

That is Shakur Stevenson’s blunt evaluation of Lomachenko’s performance in the first half of his 12-round, unanimous-decision loss to Teofimo Lopez on October 17 in Las Vegas. Stevenson questioned Lomachenko’s heart in an interview with BoxingScene.com and warned the three-division champion that moving back down to 130 pounds to fight him would “be a really bad mistake.”

Stevenson sensed fear in Lomachenko as soon as the bell sounded to start his 135-pound title unification fight against the unbeaten, hard-hitting Lopez.

“I think that if me and Lomachenko fight, I think that’d be an easy fight,” Stevenson told BoxingScene.com. “I think, with all due respect, I watched that fight with Teofimo, and I don’t respect the way that he fought. And I don’t think that a man with not a lot of heart could come in the ring and do anything with me. That’s just my opinion. I feel like heart was the problem in that fight. I don’t think it was Lomachenko’s size or his skills, as everybody’s saying. I think that heart was his biggest problem, and allowing somebody to tell you how strong they is, or you see somebody and say, ‘OK, he strong,’ and you’re fearful of the fact that man got power, and you’re going[KI1] in the ring and you don’t throw no punches for six rounds straight.

“I think that got a lot to do with heart. I don’t think that has anything to do with skills, or the size of Lomachenko. Because you seen when he did try, he had success. But it seemed like he was just too scared. I don’t think that he had heart in the fight. So, I don’t think that somebody that’s got heart problems can get in there, and when I raise that level up, they’re gonna be able to compete at it.”

The 32-year-old Lomachenko (14-2, 10 KOs) might move back down from 135 pounds to 130 now that he has lost to Lopez (16-0, 12 KOs).

The 23-year-old Stevenson (14-0, 8 KOs) will compete at the 130-pound limit for the second time Saturday night. The former WBO featherweight champion is scheduled to battle Toka Kakn Clary (28-2, 19 KOs, 1 NC) in a 10-round main event ESPN will televise from MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas (10 p.m. EST; 7 p.m. PST).

Stevenson would welcome a fight against Lomachenko sometime in 2021. The 2016 Olympic silver medalist assumes Lomachenko would fight him, especially if Stevenson wins a junior lightweight world title next year, because Lomachenko doesn’t consider him as dangerous as Lopez.

“I think that he probably don’t look at me the same way that he did Teofimo,” Stevenson said. “He know that he got another boxer in front of him. He don’t look at me probably like a big puncher, that I can change the fight at any given time. I think that he would agree [to fight me] and say yeah, and I think that’d be a really bad mistake, because I think it’ll probably look worse than what it did when he fought Teofimo.”

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The Newark, New Jersey, native feels his professional development and familiarity with Lomachenko would enable him to produce what would be the biggest victory of his pro career. Stevenson and Lomachenko have sparred against each other five times, but not in the three years since Lomachenko was preparing to square off against Guillermo Rigondeaux in December 2017.

“I know certain stuff about Lomachenko,” Stevenson said. “I’ve been in there with him before. It’s not like it’s somebody I didn’t see before. I’ve been in there, went 12 rounds with him several times. I think I’m just real familiar with him, and I know that the last time he seen me, I think that I wasn’t as developed as I am now. Like, I wasn’t as strong, I wasn’t as sharp, I wasn’t as smart in the pros as I am now. I’m a pro. I’m a professional fighter. But back then, I was kinda like a little amateurish, coming off the amateurs, still got a lot of stuff that’s amateur. But now it’s like I’m a full-fledged pro, like I know what to do in there now. So, I think he would agree to fight me, but I think it would be the biggest mistake he could make.”

Stevenson couldn’t believe the strategic mistake Lomachenko made when he opposed Lopez. Approaching Lopez so cautiously in the first six rounds clearly cost the two-time Olympic gold medalist in a fight he lost by big margins on all three scorecards (119-109, 117-111, 116-112).

“I looked at it like the first six rounds,” Stevenson said, “especially like if you listen to the interviews, when Lomachenko was talking, he said, ‘I have to be very careful every second of the way in this fight.’ Like, he had to watch out for the power every second of the way. And it sound like, even if you watch the Lopez-Richard Commey [fight], right after the fight he looked so shocked, like, ‘Wow! What just happened?’ But his face was kinda like he was shocked. I don’t know – I didn’t see the game face. Before the fight with Lomachenko, of course, I was thinking like, ‘OK, it’s gonna be Lomachenko putting it on a different level.’

“But as the fight went on, I seen that it seemed like he was scared. All that stuff kinda played back to my head, like, oh, snap! He did say, ‘Wow! What was that?’ He was shocked about [Lopez]. Like, ‘Lucky punch,’ instead of being a real person and giving Teofimo his credit. He kind of just called it a lucky punch and played it that kinda way. So, I kinda recognized that he was kinda scared when he got in that ring.”

Stevenson sensed Lomachenko accepted the Lopez bout because he felt as if he had no alternative, even though he was wary of Lopez’s power.

“I think that he was real concerned about the power,” Stevenson said. “I think that taking the fight, though, in his heart he felt like that was the right thing to do, making that fight happen, because Teofimo was constantly calling his name out. I think he just had no choice. He had no choice, like this dude done called your name non-stop, says your name in every interview he do. So, I think he got to the point where he was like, ‘Man, I don’t got no choice.’

“But I think when he got in that ring – I know he was a little like skeptical about the power – but when he got in the ring and he felt like the misses on Teofimo’s punches, I think he kinda like backed down. Like he didn’t say, ‘OK, I need to step up and I’m gonna be great tonight. This is what I gotta do.’ It seemed like he just backed down, like, ‘OK, we just gonna wait until the steam get off his punches, then try to do something.’ But that sh-t was a horrible game plan.”
 

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Great fight but I expect Nery to fukk him up, Figueroa seems to be far cruder, he’s a real rock’em-sock’em fighter doesn’t care about defense like at all

i dont know..i expected homm to beat the cat he faced on the charlo card and i thought he lost fight clearly

but yeah the young figueroa is like his brother..chin, insane workrate, power, and a tendency to not box...its honestly a miracle he didnt get ruined by ceja in that gift draw he got

its going to be a hell of a fight..i wonder if this is the kickoff for that 122 tournament that pbc is planning on doing?
 
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