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My 2021 fight wish list(I know some of these have no chance of happening but a man can dream):

Jermell Charlo vs the winner of Teixeira/Castano for undisputed at 154
Jermell Charlo vs GGG
Jermell Charlo vs Madrimov(this would be a FOTY and KO of the year in the same fight probably)
Jermell Charlo vs Jarrett Hurd
Jermall Charlo vs GGG
Jermall Charlo vs Demetrius Andrade
Errol Spence Jr vs Terrence Crawford
Errol Spence Jr vs Manny Pacquiao
Terrence Crawford vs Keith Thurman(I really want to see this one more than the Porter fight it is a much more interesting clash of styles, I actually think Crawford would beat Porter somewhat convincingly, not by stoppage though it would go 12, still wouldn't mind that fight either though.)
Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Gary Russell Jr vs Shakur Stevenson
Gary Russell Jr vs Josh Warrington
Gervonta Davis vs Shakur Stevenson
Shakur Stevenson vs the winner of Carl Frampton/Jermell Herring
Shakur Stevenson vs Miguel Berchelt
Gervonta Davis vs Gary Russell Jr
Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Devin Haney vs Vasyl Lomachenko
Devin Haney vs Teofimo Lopez
Jarron Ennis vs Yordenis Ugas
Jarron Ennis vs Terrence Crawford
Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Shawn Porter
Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Danny Garcia
Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury
Deontay Wilder vs Dillian Whyte
Naoya Inoue vs Johnriel Casimero
Naoya Inoue vs Guillermo Rigondeux
Naoya Inoue vs Chocolatito
Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol

if 25% of these fights happen that would be amazing
 

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What's next at 147?

Pacquiao fights Spence or Crawford?
Whoever doesn't get the Pac fight gets Thurman or Porter?

My guess is Spence’s 2021 will consist of Abdukakhorov and Thurman.

Pac will probably fight once, most likely Mikey Garcia.

Crawford will fight against whoever as usual
 

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That's also why Danny never had more than a punchers chance. Spence moves a lot better than nikkas in here give him credit for.
I think the issue people have is with how wide his stance is but it's mostly that the guy just has long legs. Because of that , he defo is a bit slow and a bit heavy with his footwork when it comes to angles and pivots for example. Put I think it's his positionning that makes him good defensively rather than his footwork.
 

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the beginning of the end for terrible terry

fights with oscar and tito..gone smh

Two Things: I remember as a kid this being a big upset because he had an Oscar fight coming up, but now I'm wondering what weight this would have been at? Oscar had just got to 147 that very year and wound up staying there for what...four years?

Second, Javier Castillejo beat Mullings for this belt, and it's the 154 belt that Oscar wound up getting when he finally did go to 154 which is kinda interesting. Also means Oscar was lineal 154lb champ who then lost it to Shane, who lost it to Winky, who lost it to no one. 154lb lineal strap had like a clean ten year run of legit exchanges.
 

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Two Things: I remember as a kid this being a big upset because he had an Oscar fight coming up, but now I'm wondering what weight this would have been at? Oscar had just got to 147 that very year and wound up staying there for what...four years?

Second, Javier Castillejo beat Mullings for this belt, and it's the 154 belt that Oscar wound up getting when he finally did go to 154 which is kinda interesting. Also means Oscar was lineal 154lb champ who then lost it to Shane, who lost it to Winky, who lost it to no one. 154lb lineal strap had like a clean ten year run of legit exchanges.

im sure it would have been at 154..terry had been there this whole career..he wasnt going down to 147
 

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Arum on PED-Suspended Jarrell Miller: How F--king Stupid Can You Be?
By Dan Rafael

Published On Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:23 AM EST

After heavyweight Jarrell “Big Baby” Miller failed multiple drug tests for a variety of banned substances – HGH, EPO and GW1516 -- that knocked him out of a multi-million dollar shot at unified heavyweight world titleholder Anthony Joshua in June 2019, Miller’s career was in limbo.

But Top Rank chairman Bob Arum decided to give him another chance, and after much difficulty finalizing the deal -- one Arum nearly walked away from in January -- he signed Miller even over the objection of others at the company.

So, when Miller tested positive yet again, for the banned substance GW1516, ahead of his first fight under the Top Rank deal, which was scheduled to headline an ESPN-televised card on July 9 against Jerry Forrest inside the conference center of the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Arum said he was rather surprised and “disgusted.”

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Miller was suspended for two years on Wednesday by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because it was the third fight around which he had tested positive for a banned substance. He also was suspended in 2014 due to testing positive for a performance-enhancing drug related to a kickboxing match in California and then the multiple failed drug tests that killed his chances to fight Joshua.

During a recent interview with BoxingScene, Arum did not hold back when explaining his thoughts on the situation.

“Not pissed but I just couldn’t believe it,” Arum said to BoxingScene.com. “I mean how the f--king stupid can you be?”

Arum said he has not yet spoken personally with Miller but described his feelings over the situation as “utter disgust based on his stupidity.”

Arum said he and some of his staff plan to speak soon with Miller and his team about the next step. While Miller is suspended for two years, he could be eligible to fight sooner. The suspension is backdated to when he failed the test and he can also have it reduced by six months if he completes a PED treatment program and undergoes random testing (at his cost) administered by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association. That means Miller could be eligible to return in early 2022.

“He’s going to be talking to us. He wanted to fly to (Las) Vegas to meet with us but with the Covid I don’t want any people in the office,” Arum said. “So we’re gonna do a Zoom call as soon as next week about what we want to do with him in the future, if anything; what he wants to do, discuss the whole thing.”

Miller has claimed his latest drug test failure was the result of GW1516 being in Black Ant, a sex stimulant pill that he claims to have taken more than a month before the scheduled bout against Forrest.

“I’m not interested in hearing any excuses, if he thought it was a sex drug,” Arum said. “I mean gimme a break. How stupid can you be? Even if he thought he was just using it for sex you don’t put anything in your body that has a drug in it without getting it approved.”

Arum said he would talk to Top Rank president Todd duBoef and vice president Carl Moretti to get their opinions about what to do with Miller.

“I need to talk to Carl and Todd, but at this point I haven’t really given it much thought,” Arum said.

One thing Arum did say, however, was that if Miller, 32, of Brooklyn, New York, attempted to fight overseas, where a suspension in the United States would not necessarily be honored, he would not allow it.

“I wouldn’t be a party to it and certainly ESPN wouldn’t televise it,” Arum said.

Arum said he was not sure what kind of future Miller might have in boxing after this latest drug test failure and suspension.

“You can’t tell him lights out, pack ‘em up. There always is a future. How bright the future is remains to be seen,” Arum said. “He obviously has had a tremendously adverse impact on his professional boxing career. There’s no question about it. But it is what it is.”

Miller (23-0-1, 20 KOs) has not fought since he knocked out Bogdan Dinu in the fourth round on Nov. 18, 2018.
 
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