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man so many things wrong with khan i dont know where to start....when julio diaz gives you serious trouble..i dont know man...khan will make for interesting fights for sure but being elite again...i dont see it

He should have a facelift with a concrete cement.
 

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man so many things wrong with khan i dont know where to start....when julio diaz gives you serious trouble..i dont know man...khan will make for interesting fights for sure but being elite again...i dont see it

Khan elite? :snoop:

Khan was never an elite fighter. He was protected very well by his camp and was overrated to an extent.
 

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overall it was a good night of fights...none of the fights disappointed...but ima need my coli boxing brehs to catch that replay of arreola-stiverne since it came on during judah-garcia so im sure not a lot of ppl were watching it..the only fight from tonight that got a :wow: out of me...that shyt was damned good..im still wondering how it went the distance:ohhh:
 

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good ass fight. zab gained a lot of respect back. and garcia better hope peterson wins, cause he aint makin it 12 with maKNEEsay. not even a chance.


and missed the first 4 rounds of martinez, but dude looked flabby and sick. slow, lethargic, no power, no slickness...hard to say if its the age or the surgery, but dude looked really really poor tonight.
 
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Lucas Browne UD12 James Toney (117-111, 119-109, 120-108)..just finished watching this shyt...conditioning, skills, etc.....all gone for toney..Browne is shyt and he whooped him James easy..it was very sad to watch:sadbron:."Lights Out" needs to retire ASAP before someone puts him out
 

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I think I got 2 predictions right, though only one of the fights went as I thought it would...

Some great fights though, we :eat: good
 

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I think I got 2 predictions right, though only one of the fights went as I thought it would...

Some great fights though, we :eat: good

i only got the wilder-harrison one down the result right and the part where i said julio diaz would get khan in some serious in the fight..the rest i picked the winner but i didn't pick the correct method of victory (although i came close on garcia stopping judah in between rounds 6-8) or didn't pick the winner period lol

they were all damned good fights...i don't rate any of them as fight of the year candidates though
 

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watching the khan fight again, he is pretty much done. How can he improve?

Hes always been open to hooks. The majority of KDs in his career have come from a hook, for some reason when he throws a punch the protection hand by his face drops, leavin him open. He has horrid footwork too. Like i was sayin to my mate last night, goin to Roach was the worst thing for him, as Freddie dont teach defence which is what Khan needed the most and they tried to make him :deadmanny: MkII
 

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So you goin give Garcia his props now like you said you would??:smugdraper:

let me start by saying beltholders today wouldve been contenders back years ago. the belts make the public think that these fighters are better than what they really are. its not nearly as hard to pick up a world title now as it was some time ago. Hell, Ishe Smith has a title.

As far as Danny, yes, he deserves props...more than what I was willing to give him before the fight but still perhaps not as much as you may think he deserves. Garcia is solid. He is not as good as Judah was at 25. 25 year old Judah would kill Garcia....simply because the difference in speed was too great. Zab still has good enough reflexes defensively but he cant shoot those punches like he used to.

What it looked like to me is that Danny is a big and strong JWW. He looked stronger than Zab and naturally bigger. Although Zab fought at WW and was comfortable at JWW....Danny looks bigger and stronger at that weight than Zab ever was. Now...either that means that Zab was probably more of a natural lightweight or Danny ultimately is a natural WW who melts down.

I know what you were expecting. You were expecting Garcia to stop Zab or make him quit like Cotto did. Maybe thoroughly outbox him like Spinks did. Neither happened.

Danny didnt impress me enough to make me think he is the best JWW. Style wise I would pick Peterson to beat him. I would see a Matthysse fight as pretty much even mainly because Matthysse doesnt put his foot on the gas enough in the later rounds. I could see Danny eeking out a decision over him. If Matthysee would fight solid every minute, he would eat Danny's food.

If you read my previous posts....I said that Zab has bad balance and fights going the wrong way. Those are some things that played in Danny's favor. The KD was a good balance shot. Zab wasnt even hurt from that because his eyes stayed on Danny the whole way down. Take away that KD and the fight is even closer. (I felt Zab may have won a couple of the early rounds and Danny won the rest until the 10th) Zab wasnt hurt badly, not like he was against Cotto or the enormous Baldomir. He didnt take a sustained beating like he did from Mayweather.

If we use Zab's previous losses as a measuring stick for Danny, then its obvious that this was probably Zab's best loss. It was probably the only fight that Zab had a chance of winning outside of the Baldomir fight.

If Khan could avoid that left hook he would beat Danny. Khan is a good offensive fighter that has an Achille's chin.

That's my assessment of Danny and the fight. He is a solid fighter, nothing more. I dont see him having a reign at JWW much longer and when he moves up to WW with fighters who have more of his natural size and strength....he will pretty much be what Zab is at this point but at a much earlier age. A solid gatekeeper/stepping stone.

Maybe that's not the props you were looking for but thats about as much as I can honestly give him.
 
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