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the old mongoose said:
Fam like I bet if there were stats on Street fights most of em ended by knockout/tko with hands if not broken up.
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Nah fam, :what:
Every mma nikka tells me that each fight will eventually go to the ground and you'll roll around on the concrete, blunt ashes, and bits of shattered glass in order to pull off some hold you should have been able to do standing up if your striking was worth a damn. :mjgrin:
 
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LauderdaleBoss said:
Nah fam, :what:
Every mma nikka tells me that each fight will eventually go to the ground and you'll roll around on the concrete, blunt ashes, and bits of shattered glass in order to pull off some hold you should have been able to do standing up if your striking was worth a damn. :mjgrin:
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Yeah instead of using my grappling to keep me on my feet i want to go to the ground roll around like a border collie and risk it goin long enough for dude to pull a weapon or his friends to punt me on the ground :mjlol:
 
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Course he doesn't want to give 50/50, he's a proven way bigger commercial draw than both of the other 2, but he said if it's 50/50 if somebody explains why then he's open to it. He didn't disrespect Shelly Finkle at all, he just said his name wrong, Kugan reacted and he corrected himself and said no disrespect. And I don't even know what could possibly be meant about dikkridng Wilder so can't answer that bit.
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In other words, it's his way out. No one cares about that England shyt. That dont mean nothing in the richest country in the world.
 
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In other words, it's his way out. No one cares about that England shyt. That dont mean nothing in the richest country in the world.
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Lol at way out, this a guy who's consistently challenged himself, took risks and has made both huge offers, especially Wilder, Wilder got the golden ticket and turned it down. It's nothing to do with England, AJ is a bigger global star, which is why he gets paid much more than both of them and does way better numbers. So what he's doing matters cause it's generating so much bigger revenue and views. For the winner of Wilder vs Fury it may end up working well they turned down the offers financially speaking as with the emergence of Saudi now they've made a huge offer for AJ to fight the winner, gigantic. Surely even Wilder can't duck that, it's just a shame to keep delaying it because there's a chance things happen where it doesn't ever happen. For example if Usyk beats AJ and Fury beats Wilder, which are both possible, the fight may never happen and all that money gone. Also for the fans to see the fights, I think all the top contenders should fight the top contenders, too much bullshyt in the game. Everyone should fight even if they lose, cause boxing is about styles, there's no guarantees. Anybody who is paying to AJ and also his history knows he badly wants to fight both Wilder and Fury, and everyone else. Even if he loses he wants to fight them, that's what makes him have a championship mentality cause he's not ducking and willing to fight both of them. His record is tremendous for the amount of fights he's had and he's put in major offers to fight Wilder, Fury and Ortiz, those 3 all turned it down. It's really impossible to objectively deny AJ wants to fight them, they made serious legit offers to them, especially Wilder, he got offer after offer after offers and has turned them ALL down. So then say AJ is the 1 who don't want it is insane lol. He just doesn't want to be treated unfairly and ripped off, which he would be stupid if he bowed to their demands completely, like on commercial aspects he should get 70-30, the other 2 aren't in his league. It won't be that though, they've offered 60/40 previously and think it will end up being that, a massive flat fee or 65/45 or 50/50 or even some way where the winner gets the higher bit. With as much money being available now it really should happen, but 1 of them is gonna get their stock dropping probably after the next Fury vs Wilder fight. Wilder could have had a different path completely he could have pocketed the 120 mil already and THEN done a MASSIVE fight with Fury for undisputed, maybe even in a place like Saudi for mega money. Cause if you keep winning the price always goes up anyway. There's people to fight now in the division. Wilder vs Whyte would make some nice money, Usyk, there's a lot of fights that have interest, we should see them all. Whoever ends up the best of the generation is gonna have to fight lots of the other top contenders.
 
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Lol at way out, this a guy who's consistently challenged himself, took risks and has made both huge offers, especially Wilder, Wilder got the golden ticket and turned it down. It's nothing to do with England, AJ is a bigger global star, which is why he gets paid much more than both of them and does way better numbers. So what he's doing matters cause it's generating so much bigger revenue and views. For the winner of Wilder vs Fury it may end up working well they turned down the offers financially speaking as with the emergence of Saudi now they've made a huge offer for AJ to fight the winner, gigantic. Surely even Wilder can't duck that, it's just a shame to keep delaying it because there's a chance things happen where it doesn't ever happen. For example if Usyk beats AJ and Fury beats Wilder, which are both possible, the fight may never happen and all that money gone. Also for the fans to see the fights, I think all the top contenders should fight the top contenders, too much bullshyt in the game. Everyone should fight even if they lose, cause boxing is about styles, there's no guarantees. Anybody who is paying to AJ and also his history knows he badly wants to fight both Wilder and Fury, and everyone else. Even if he loses he wants to fight them, that's what makes him have a championship mentality cause he's not ducking and willing to fight both of them. His record is tremendous for the amount of fights he's had and he's put in major offers to fight Wilder, Fury and Ortiz, those 3 all turned it down. It's really impossible to objectively deny AJ wants to fight them, they made serious legit offers to them, especially Wilder, he got offer after offer after offers and has turned them ALL down. So then say AJ is the 1 who don't want it is insane lol. He just doesn't want to be treated unfairly and ripped off, which he would be stupid if he bowed to their demands completely, like on commercial aspects he should get 70-30, the other 2 aren't in his league. It won't be that though, they've offered 60/40 previously and think it will end up being that, a massive flat fee or 65/45 or 50/50 or even some way where the winner gets the higher bit. With as much money being available now it really should happen, but 1 of them is gonna get their stock dropping probably after the next Fury vs Wilder fight. Wilder could have had a different path completely he could have pocketed the 120 mil already and THEN done a MASSIVE fight with Fury for undisputed, maybe even in a place like Saudi for mega money. Cause if you keep winning the price always goes up anyway. There's people to fight now in the division. Wilder vs Whyte would make some nice money, Usyk, there's a lot of fights that have interest, we should see them all. Whoever ends up the best of the generation is gonna have to fight lots of the other top contenders.
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Challenged himself against old Povetkin and Ruiz, who everyone thought he would slaughter? When Joshua's name comes up around the States, they ask one thing. Is he gonna fight Wilder next? Until then, he can keep fighting all those no names in England. Because Parker, Povetkin, etc...they dont mean shyt.

That 120 million deal is horse shyt..no fukking way are they paying Wilder more than Joshua...Joshua didnt want to make the fight which is why the Fury fight took place at all
 
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Challenged himself against old Povetkin and Ruiz, who everyone thought he would slaughter? When Joshua's name comes up around the States, they ask one thing. Is he gonna fight Wilder next? Until then, he can keep fighting all those no names in England. Because Parker, Povetkin, etc...they dont mean shyt.

That 120 million deal is horse shyt..no fukking way are they paying Wilder more than Joshua...Joshua didnt want to make the fight which is why the Fury fight took place at all
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He's challenged himself consistently during his career, he's an Olympic Gold medalist so fought the best amateurs in the world, super heavyweight. He fought Whyte in his 15th pro fight, a guy who beat him in the amateurs on points, a guy who is currently WBC number 1 and who the WBC champion has refused to fight and text him saying he's going to make him wait. He challenged for and won a world title in his 16th fight, unified against an all time legendary fighter in Wlad in his 19th, that's possibly a top 10 heavyweight of all time, Wlad was in excellent shape for that fight too and was aggressive, he unified yet again in his 21st fight against Parker, he beat Povetkin on his 22nd fight who was very good fighter and only had 1 career loss at the time against Wlad, in his 24th he beat Ruiz who he'd lost to previously in an immediate rematch, only the 4th man in heavweight history to do that along with Patterson, Ali and Lewis, many people advised him not to take the fight with Ruiz or to have warm ups and said it was impossible he would beat Ruiz, he went in and took the challenge and beat yet another world champion and became 2 time heavyweight champion, another historical feat which places him in the history books.

The world is bigger than the U.S, in this scenario it's actually the U.S that doesn't matter, even though technically he sold out MSG there too and was successful there, but he's only had 1 fight in the U.S and still is boxing's biggest superstar, along with Canelo (Mayweather is retired for now). So he's generating WAY more money than the U.S Champ, he's destroying him in all those important categories, so obviously they do matter, because AJ is making so much more money than Wilder, it's probably impossible at this stage Wilder will catch up to AJ money wise and that's 1 of the most important things. Again what you're saying makes zero sense, Parker, Wlad and Ruiz meant a lot, that's why he's been able to earn the figures he's done because he's taken risks. He didn't pick the cherry picking and ducking approach like some do, he would have been fought Wilder if Wilder had accepted the offers too. It wasn't horseshyt, that was the offer and Wilder himself is on camera saying he rejected it, he wasn't getting paid more than AJ, in that deal AJ would have got slightly more, but they were overpaying him hugely for the Brezeale fight so it probably would have worked out very similar. You can try to rewrite history but when it's documented it doesn't work, Wilder is on video saying he's rejected like 5 or 6 offers, that's the reason the fight hasn't happened yet. Wilder tried to cherry pick a mentally ill and physically unfit Fury and it backfired. But ultimately with the new figures the winner hopefully will fight AJ, it might be after a 3rd fight though between them, but the problem is Usyk, because if Usyk beats AJ, which is possible, then the fight goes down the drain and everyone will make less AJ not being involved, cause Usyk isn't yet the draw AJ is, though a great fighter.
 
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