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So can anyone explain why Bud is consistently ranked above the PBC welters in P4P rankings
Even in publications that have nothing to do with ESPN like Forbes , boxing association and Ring?
Aight ppl hate Tim Bradley now, but y'all don't believe Andre Ward either? Julian Williams, who is on PBC, said Bud is the best fighter in the world! The idea that Bud is the best welter is not some ESPN media creation....alot of ppl believe that

Bro my problem with Bud is, is that nobody ever points out his flaws. With Spence we hear he doesn't move his head or his feet enough, Danny he is slow and inactive and stone footed, Porter he is sloppy with no power, but when it comes to Bud he is apparently flawless even though I have watched him in fights get caught with shots that none of his peers do. Has it ever occured to you Bradley, Ward, and Williams are fans as well?
 

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Bro my problem with Bud is, is that nobody ever points out his flaws. With Spence we hear he doesn't move his head or his feet enough, Danny he is slow and inactive and stone footed, Porter he is sloppy with no power, but when it comes to Bud he is apparently flawless even though I have watched him in fights get caught with shots that none of his peers do. Has it ever occured to you Bradley, Ward, and Williams are fans as well?

Honestly I don't get the criticism about him getting hit. We done seen Thurman hurt and running for his life vs multiple C tier fighters. Porter been dropped and hurt multiple times. Only iron chins is Danny and Spence. And both of them can basically get touched at will
Technically Bud has the best defensive compubox stats out of all them but he ain't fight them yet which might skew the stats I guess
Y'all being too hard on Bud. He gotta fight Porter just to quiet the haters
 

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Except he is bro, you can win a fight(even knock them out) and still have a hard fight. Spence/Porter and Charlo/Harrison 2 are perfect examples of both. Crawford be struggling. A flawless victory is like Spence/Garcia or Canelo/Chavez Jr or Danny/Khan. Crawford has done that against who at 147, Jeff Horn? Color me impressed bruh. :unimpressed:

Who has challenged Bud like Porter did Spence or Harrison did Charlo? What fights was Crawford in danger of losing? Anyone that has challenged Crawford has gotten dropped and hurt badly. The last time Crawford played it safe was against Postol, and people criticized him for not getting him out of there.

Crawford is in his third weight class and oftentimes moves forward as the aggressor against men larger than himself. Of course he's going to get hit, but to date none of these C or B level guys have put Crawford's 0 in serious danger, and Terrence is disposing of these guys like he's supposed to. No going 12 against Bundhu, getting boxed up by Herrera, or fighting to a draw against Diaz.

Also, Danny/Khan was flawless? Danny was catching hands before he found Khan's jaw.:gucci:

Crawford getting hurt in his last fight has dented his P4P ranking, and it's forcing the issue that he needs to step up in competition at 47. I don't believe getting hurt makes him an Arum hype job and an easy fight for any of the PBC welters tho.
 
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Who has challenged Bud like Porter did Spence or Harrison did Charlo? What fights was Crawford in danger of losing? Anyone that has challenged Crawford has gotten dropped and hurt badly. The last time Crawford played it safe was against Postol, and people criticized him for not getting him out of there.

Crawford is in his third weight class and oftentimes moves forward as the aggressor against men larger than himself. Of course he's going to get hit, but to date none of these C or B level guys have put Crawford's 0 in serious danger, and Terrence is disposing of these guys like he's supposed to. No going 12 against Bundhu, getting boxed up by Herrera, or fighting to a draw against Diaz.

Also, Danny/Khan was flawless? Danny was catching hands before he found Khan's jaw.:gucci:

Crawford getting hurt in his last fight has dented his P4P ranking, and it's forcing the issue that he needs to step up in competition at 47. I don't believe getting hurt makes him an Arum hype job and an easy fight for any of the PBC welters tho.

It’s easier to have an off night against a Harrison when you looking at Hurd next

It’s easier to have an off not against Herrera when you jus fought N destroyed the boogie man Errybody said you was ducking

It’s easier to look past a 300 pound two week replacement with bigger titties than your favorite pornstar ... when you got big fights on the horizon

When all you are facing is these C level nikkas N Errybody somehow has you number 1 your ass better fukking deliver

Especially when your base criticizing others for there performances on opps 10xs better


Crawford playing on Rookie N throwing ints


nikkas playing on All Madden N having 17-10 games N it’s see Bud would wash him :ahh:


Bradley saying PBC are not Men ... when all of the PBC 147 have been matched tougher than Bud by far

Then it’s I don’t need them nikkas... ima offer them nikkas half what I offer Khan... they not on my radar .... Porter gotta have a face to face with me to nah it’s not happening cuz I don’t want it...shyt lookin Reeeeeeal funny now :patrice:
 

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Who has challenged Bud like Porter did Spence or Harrison did Charlo? What fights was Crawford in danger of losing? Anyone that has challenged Crawford has gotten dropped and hurt badly. The last time Crawford played it safe was against Postol, and people criticized him for not getting him out of there.

Crawford is in his third weight class and oftentimes moves forward as the aggressor against men larger than himself. Of course he's going to get hit, but to date none of these C or B level guys have put Crawford's 0 in serious danger, and Terrence is disposing of these guys like he's supposed to. No going 12 against Bundhu, getting boxed up by Herrera, or fighting to a draw against Diaz.

Also, Danny/Khan was flawless? Danny was catching hands before he found Khan's jaw.:gucci:

Crawford getting hurt in his last fight has dented his P4P ranking, and it's forcing the issue that he needs to step up in competition at 47. I don't believe getting hurt makes him an Arum hype job and an easy fight for any of the PBC welters tho.

Nothing y'all are saying is refuting any of the points we have made about Crawford and his skills as a boxer, or his weak ass resume. Porter and Harrison are better opponents than anyone on Crawford resume(Gamboa on they level, but he was just a blown up featherweight if we being for real). Like I said Crawford has ZERO wins against even a B+ level opponent at 147 bruh.

I look at him the same way I always looked at GGG, overrated with a bad resume, just Crawford became undisputed in a division which has gotten him a lot of love and carried him ever since, but he still needs a better resume my guy, and saying he is 'not interested' when two A level fighters say they are willing to fight him after all that yappin he been doing tells me that he been full of shyt the whole time, he just wants a payday he don't want to fight the best comp.
 

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It’s easier to have an off night against a Harrison when you looking at Hurd next

It’s easier to have an off not against Herrera when you jus fought N destroyed the boogie man Errybody said you was ducking

It’s easier to look past a 300 pound two week replacement with bigger titties than your favorite pornstar ... when you got big fights on the horizon

When all you are facing is these C level nikkas N Errybody somehow has you number 1 your ass better fukking deliver

Especially when your base criticizing others for there performances on opps 10xs better


Crawford playing on Rookie N throwing ints


nikkas playing on All Madden N having 17-10 games N it’s see Bud would wash him :ahh:


Bradley saying PBC are not Men ... when all of the PBC 147 have been matched tougher than Bud by far

Then it’s I don’t need them nikkas... ima offer them nikkas half what I offer Khan... they not on my radar .... Porter gotta have a face to face with me to nah it’s not happening cuz I don’t want it...shyt lookin Reeeeeeal funny now :patrice:

How has Crawford not delivered? He's stopped everyone since embarrassing Postol.:pachaha:

Anyways, anyone remember what the picture was looking like before Spence's accident? It looked like TC was going to be frozen out the picture while PBC had their welters fight one another. Now that Spence got hurt, all this pressure is being placed on Crawford to fight guys that were basically inaccessible just a few months ago.

Negotiations finna heat up. PBC might've lost slight leverage with Spence's future still uncertain, and Manny waiting until the summer to fight again with his own future with the PBC also being uncertain.
 

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How has Crawford not delivered? He's stopped everyone since embarrassing Postol.:pachaha:

Anyways, anyone remember what the picture was looking like before Spence's accident? It looked like TC was going to be frozen out the picture while PBC had their welters fight one another. Now that Spence got hurt, all this pressure is being placed on Crawford to fight guys that were basically inaccessible just a few months ago.

Negotiations finna heat up. PBC might've lost slight leverage with Spence's future still uncertain, and Manny waiting until the summer to fight again with his own future with the PBC also being uncertain.


Getting dropped by Mean Machine is not delivering :manny:



If Swift has the same exact performance against Redkach you think “he delivered” goin be uttered round these parts? :heh: N Redkach coming off Destroying Devon not a draw with Ray Robinson :steviej:



Swift N Porter were always options for Bud... jus not at 3 million when you giving Khan 7 :beli:



Porters been on the record since before they won the WBC that they would fight Bud... which makes this unbreakable friendship they have to talk face to face Porter not on my radar shyt Crawford pulling funny af :unimpressed:



PBC still hold the cards Buds numbers were trash the other week... N has zero options goin forward to do numbers...Manny must fight one more PBC fight so that’ll be big... Spence can tune up N that’ll be big jus off curiosity if he 100 or not... a rematch between Keith N Swift or Porter does numbers
 

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How has Crawford not delivered? He's stopped everyone since embarrassing Postol.:pachaha:

Anyways, anyone remember what the picture was looking like before Spence's accident? It looked like TC was going to be frozen out the picture while PBC had their welters fight one another. Now that Spence got hurt, all this pressure is being placed on Crawford to fight guys that were basically inaccessible just a few months ago.

Negotiations finna heat up. PBC might've lost slight leverage with Spence's future still uncertain, and Manny waiting until the summer to fight again with his own future with the PBC also being uncertain.

You see it. Only reason Crawford had a chance to fight any these guys is cause PBC lost a ton of leverage with Spence getting hurt and Manny operating on his own timeline.
It went from Arum blocking the fights to suddenly he not and TC ducking all these available fights that can miraculously be made now? :dead:
What changed? :jbhmm:

TC might just be saying he good to make Porter give up more leverage to get the fight done.
TC had to operate on their time being locked out all these yrs now he can make them beg for a fight and using A side top 3 P4P leverage:yeshrug:
 

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How has Crawford not delivered? He's stopped everyone since embarrassing Postol.:pachaha:

Anyways, anyone remember what the picture was looking like before Spence's accident? It looked like TC was going to be frozen out the picture while PBC had their welters fight one another. Now that Spence got hurt, all this pressure is being placed on Crawford to fight guys that were basically inaccessible just a few months ago.

Negotiations finna heat up. PBC might've lost slight leverage with Spence's future still uncertain, and Manny waiting until the summer to fight again with his own future with the PBC also being uncertain.

Crawford put that pressure on himself with all the shyt he been talking, cause honeatly PBC still has Manny who is a bigger draw than all these nikkas if they really wanted to keep freezing him out. It's only so long you can bark before someone actually forces you to bite bruh.
 
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