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[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Elite fighters dont switch unless injured or they really have to, TC switches to protect a weak chin and bad defense/foot positioning(ala a offense as defense fighter)


Throwback fighter my ass

We may disagree on some things, but I'm with you here. I said after that mean machine fight Crawford chin is suspect to me, and his defense most of the time is downright terrible. To have longer reach than nearly everyone he fights, only fight I remember him using it in was against Bredis Prescott, everyone else he started brawling them once he realized they would outbox him. I keep telling folks there is a reason he didn't make the olympics and it's because his boxing skills aren't up as good as people think, he gets by more off physical talents than skill and most people don't seem to see it.

 

[Skip b]

We may disagree on some things, but I'm with you here. I said after that mean machine fight Crawford chin is suspect to me, and his defense most of the time is downright terrible. To have longer reach than nearly everyone he fights, only fight I remember him using it in was against Bredis Prescott, everyone else he started brawling them once he realized they would outbox him. I keep telling folks there is a reason he didn't make the olympics and it's because his boxing skills aren't up as good as people think, he gets by more off physical talents than skill and most people don't seem to see it.

Physical talent.....Nah The boy gets over on size and weight(imposing that on lil guys), as you stated he doesn't effectively use his reach....

Things is there's like 5 190 pound welter weights and those are the fights TC is ducking.......

 

[Skip b]

We kissing the ass of a man who couldnt get a clean ko of Khan, that power is looking funny in the light as well....

 

[desjardins]

Honestly I think TC fights down to level of comp. He gets in exchanges knowing he going win them. I'd expect him to fight way more conservatively against top PBC.
Remember that whole "TC figures ppl out" narrative? I think that's true for the most part. Despite him getting touched in early rounds he usually adjusts and shyt looks like a foregone conclusion by the middle rounds, even the benavidez fight

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Physical talent.....Nah The boy gets over on size and weight(imposing that on lil guys), as you stated he doesn't effectively use his reach....

Things is there's like 5 190 pound welter weights and those are the fights TC is ducking.......

That's essentially what I was implying, but 6 1 way, half dozen the other. And I agree on the second statement also. I remember when Spence and Crawford had their face to face video and they was talking shyt and Crawford said he hits hard and Spence just laughed at him and said 'Aint nobody ever said you hit hard like that.' Danny also seems to be kinda dismissive about how good he is also(Danny fought him twice in the amatuers and beat him once). The other welterweights reactions to him are telling to me.

 

[Skip b]

Elite fighters dont switch unless injured or they really have to, TC switches to protect a weak chin and bad defense/foot positioning(ala a offense as defense fighter)


Throwback fighter my ass

Watch tape guys, no side to side, spinning or turning....He backs up into straight lines, C Class shyt, Horn bum rush had him flustered a good two 3 rounds cause of such........

Welter Weight Heriacrhy IMO

Manny Pacquaio
Danny Garcia
Shawn Porter
Keith Thurman
Errol Spence
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TC

 

[The axe murderer]

Honestly I think TC fights down to level of comp. He gets in exchanges knowing he going win them. I'd expect him to fight way more conservatively against top PBC.
Remember that whole "TC figures ppl out" narrative? I think that's true for the most part. Despite him getting touched in early rounds he usually adjusts and shyt looks like a foregone conclusion by the middle rounds, even the benavidez fight

That's why he gotta fight top comp to see how he copes because on eye test he can look elite but he also has vulnerability some of em may exploit. And I wanna see his power and strength against em.

 

[Skip b]

Honestly I think TC fights down to level of comp. He gets in exchanges knowing he going win them. I'd expect him to fight way more conservatively against top PBC.
Remember that whole "TC figures ppl out" narrative? I think that's true for the most part. Despite him getting touched in early rounds he usually adjusts and shyt looks like a foregone conclusion by the middle rounds, even the benavidez fight

Nobody likes to get punch in the mouth, he took massive shots the whole damn arena heard the other day, and got put on his ass, and acted like we aint see no knockdown, miss me with your rhetoric


TC gets in exchanges as he facing lower level guys knowing his size and weight will wear them down eventually ole tenderizing Khan ass nikka

 

[patscorpio]

We all know you dont wanna see your boy get capped

out of the main welters hes the only one i can see getting his head boxed off by t-craw...again

 

[desjardins]

Nobody likes to get punch in the mouth, he took massive shots the whole damn arena heard the other day, and got put on his ass, and acted like we aint see no knockdown, miss me with your rhetoric


TC gets in exchanges as he facing lower level guys knowing his size and weight will wear them down eventually ole tenderizing Khan ass nikka

Yea I think his "struggles" against the Ukrainian Olympian are over blown. At no point in that fight did I think he was at risk of losing.
When Garcia is against the ropes with a bloody nose from Molina leftovers you'll call it a good scrap when he eventually gets the KO

 

[GzUp]

Danny beats both Spence and Crawford tbh

 

[The axe murderer]

Fact that 40 year old Manny still would have a shot at em all

 

[Skip b]

out of the main welters hes the only one i can see getting his head boxed off by t-craw...again

Swift the only welter i see beating Manny


TC is getting dropped by C Level guys he doesnt hold up to the big boys you know this; even at them lighter weights he was get put on baby deer legs by a blown up post ped Gamboa...



You cant even speak on Swift/Manny fakkit, ole but but but TC ass nikka...Matter of time

 

[Skip b]

Watch tape guys, no side to side, spinning or turning....He backs up into straight lines, C Class shyt, Horn bum rush had him flustered a good two 3 rounds cause of such........

Welter Weight Heriacrhy IMO

Manny Pacquaio
Danny Garcia
Shawn Porter
Keith Thurman
Errol Spence
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TC

No disrespect to Porter, he gets zero credit for the swift win......I Saw a guy getting thoroughly outboxed, then decided to use elbows and headbutts, flailing arms to neutralize Danny as Danny was able to out muscle him in the clinch.......No real shots landed for Porter vs a highlight reel of shots from Swift...a$$hole refs(with vendettas against Angel) ruin good fights and could dictate careers....

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Danny beats both Spence and Crawford tbh

He has a legit shot, I don't think any of these Welters are head and shoulders better than the others until one finally seperates themselves from the others, but Danny also has a legit shot of getting his ass beat also(at least by Spence, something tells me Danny would hit Bud with one hook and have him on his bike the whole fight. I don't doubt Spence chin, I do doubt Buds though).