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The Ruler 09

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Wilder vs Ortiz only did 10 thousand tickets though, seems to be even less paid for tickets from reports.

I guess maybe some people getting tired of some of the cherry picking. Wilder vs Fury at least will do a lot better.
 

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There's no info you can give about that I don't know already. I know Joshua offered him the fight, he didn't turn the fight down because he was scared of Josuha, he turned it down because the initial offers he felt were too low (they improved the offers later) and he choose to go the WBC route, I assume you think Wilder is better/more dangerous than Joshua (reasonable opinion), so how could he duck Joshua if he's going after Wilder? Also not to mention the fact he's already fought him lol. Some of your misinformation seems to come from being unfamiliar with who you're talking about and their characters and history. Joshua and Whyte have a long standing feud, Whyte wants to fight Joshua multiple times. He weighed up do I want to fight Joshua now again or go the WBC route (when he was already number 1 for and had been chasing for years) , he badly wants the Wilder fight, very badly. He's been calling out Wilder for years now, there's the famous clip everyone knows about and he's made multiple offers for that fight to Wilder, career high offers to him yet Wilder rejected them all, he is the 1 who is REALLY ducking, when you look at facts not bias speculation. I don't have any allegiance to any of these fighters, I just respect the ones willing to actually fight. Whyte has a history of being willing to fight tough opponents, so does AJ.

Whyte was number 1 and should have got his fight, he was going to get it by February but UKAD not releasing a statement yet gave the WBC an excuse to delay his mandatory yet again. If it's cleared up now it's February 2021 apparently, which is probably around 4 fights away, I doubt he will risk his mandatory position with huge risks again now, he's done that already. Also they will look to appeal if and when he's cleared so it may be sooner. The fight he's having in Saudi is a tickover fight for ring rust, he wanted Wilder in Febuary 2020 and obviously way before that.

What you're saying makes ZERO sense. None at all, it seems like you haven't been following what's actually been going on. It's a known fact Whyte accepted the Breazeale fight but after the Fury vs Wilder 2 negotiations broke down they gave it to Breazeale, so how can he duck a fight he accepted? That only didn't happen because it was out of his control, he desperately wanted that fight to finally become mandatory after being number 1 for years.

That's some bullshyt about Ortiz too, Wilder shouldn't get to dictate other people fighting people to get what they already are owed, that is corruption and another example of Wilder's rampant ducking, so thanks for exposing that to everybody also. By the way, Whyte said he'd do that fight with Ortiz too if Wilder signed a contract saying if he did he would fight Whyte next, Wilder of course refused to do this.

What you just posted is a clear example of Wilder's ducking and dodging, why would he not fight Dillian Whyte when had career high offers to do so? Ducking is the only reason. Look at the vast array of bums on Wilder's record and then he refuses to fight an actual credible fighter for a change. Because his whole career has been a charade and a hype job, his power is real, I rate him as a fighter, but he's been a scared and cowardly fighter and has done some of the most shameful ducking have seen. 1 good win against an old man with blood pressure issues after 43 fights is embarrassing. I catch second hand embarrassment, he should have gone and tried to be great, he could have been undisputed already, instead he's rematching old men he's already knocked out.

Again I posted what I posted I’m not going back and forth again, I gave you quotes and stories you gave me opinion from Whyte camp who are known liars and drug cheats at this point.
 

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But everybody ducking right lol


Porter done said he’d fight Crawford numerous times... :dahell:Bud even talking bout :aicmon:


First it was nikkas gotta take a pay cut to fight bud

Then it’s nikkas gotta take a pay cut N fight on ESPN crackle


Now it’s nikkas gotta have a closed door face to face meeting... take money Tevin Farmer wouldn’t accept... N fight on ESPN Crackle :beli:


If only this nikka had the same energy to fight real top fighters as he did car shop owners, one legged Mexicans, wallaby herders... N KGB operatives


:pacspit:
 

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They’re saying the Wilder vs Ortiz fight is tracking at 2500 PPV buys, surely this can’t be correct? I don’t believe it, must be a mistake? Can’t be that low. Don’t see how it’s possible to be that low.
Is your source Eddie Hearn? :comeon: Of course it's not that low
 

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Rick Glaser apparently reporting it. Maybe there’s some kind of an error going on. As that sounds impossible.
 

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Maybe there’s a miscommunication and it’s actually what the ticket sales were. That sounds more plausible.
 
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Is your source Eddie Hearn? :comeon: Of course it's not that low

He got that bullshyt from BoxingForum24 formerly known as East Side Boxing.

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Porter done said he’d fight Crawford numerous times... :dahell:Bud even talking bout :aicmon:


First it was nikkas gotta take a pay cut to fight bud

Then it’s nikkas gotta take a pay cut N fight on ESPN crackle


Now it’s nikkas gotta have a closed door face to face meeting... take money Tevin Farmer wouldn’t accept... N fight on ESPN Crackle :beli:


If only this nikka had the same energy to fight real top fighters as he did car shop owners, one legged Mexicans, wallaby herders... N KGB operatives


:pacspit:

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Here's 3 separate channels discussing the report/rumour...







I don't believe it could be that low but these are coming from somewhere, ticket sales do seem low though.
 
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Also saw this post...

Rick Glaser
19 November at 02:07 ·
Talked to two well respected boxing writers last night, and they both said that tickets to Saturday's Wilder-Ortiz fight are dead as dead can be, and judging by my post here asking if boxing enthusiasts were going to buy the Wilder-Ortiz PPV, this fight is D.O.A, as in Dead On Arrival, as it should be. Fox will not be happy, as this show is going to be swimming in Red Ink, it's a financial bloodbath, as I'm also being told that not many foreign countries picked up this fight. When this fight was announced, I had stated here that this show was going to be a financial disaster, as there was no public demand for a rematch, and the colossal gall Fox and PBC have to put it on PPV, well Fox and PBC shared in that decision, and now they will share in the losses. Don't comeback here on Saturday night and say "What are you talking about, the place was packed" because they're going to paper the house, there will be free tickets given out starting Wednesday, as that is the MGM's modus operandi. Good luck to the powers to be on this one
 
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