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He ducked Ortiz Joshua Wilder and Breazale and he’s going to get knocked out next year. They offered this bum 5 million and he turned it down, now he’s fighting bums and drugging to beat the likes of Oscar Rivas. He’s nothing more than Eddie Hearn puppet.
The man woulda been fighting Wilder after Brazeale, but instead him and his retarded promoter opts to face Joseph Parker instead of the final eliminator match vs Ortiz.. LOL gets blessed with another opportunity final eliminator match then tests positive for Dianabol anabolic steroids LMAO (his second time testing dirty btw) Yet somehow these British UK wierdos STILL find a way to defend him :scusthov:
 
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The man woulda been fighting Wilder after Brazeale, but instead him and his retarded promoter opts to face Joseph Parker instead of the final eliminator match be Ortiz.. LOL Finally gets blessed with another opportunity final eliminator match then tests positive for Dianabol anabolic steroids LMAO (his second time testing dirty btw) Yet somehow these British UK wierdos STILL find a way to defend him :scusthov:
They clinging to anybody at this point
 

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Y’all see him ducking and dodging the question like a coward :mjlol: It’s okay I’ll ask it again just so everyone can see you dodge the question again..

When Dianabol Whyte was ordered to fight Ortiz by the WBC to become Wilders mandatory.. Who turned it down?? Was it Ortiz or Whyte:gucci:

Go and read my posts in the Wilder vs Ortiz thread, multiple posts on it, with direct quotes.
 

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He ducked Ortiz Joshua Wilder and Breazale and he’s going to get knocked out next year. They offered this bum 5 million and he turned it down, now he’s fighting bums and drugging to beat the likes of Oscar Rivas. He’s nothing more than Eddie Hearn puppet.

Lmao. The lies are hilarious man. I don't really get why people do it, some kind of bias I guess. He's fought Joshua, Ortiz refused the fight on multiple occasions, Wilder he's offered multiple career high pay days to fight him and everybody knows he's been chasing that fight for the longest, and you're throwing Breazeale in too lol... He was more than willing to fight Breazeale but the WBC changed it and just gave the mandatory to Breazeale, everything I'm saying is facts. Whyte isn't a puppet at all, you don't seem to really know what you're talking about cause that's the furthest thing from him, he doesn't toe the line at all. Whyte may get knocked out, if he fought Wilder I'd have Wilder as favourite, that's not the debate, but 1 thing that can't be said honestly is that he ducked anybody, he's been willing to fight all these fighters, he's a true fighter, I'd rather a fighter go in and take an L than be scared and fraudulently prop up their record like Wilder and Ortiz have done.
 

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Go and read my posts in the Wilder vs Ortiz thread, multiple posts on it, with direct quotes.
:mjlol: still ducked the question like I knew you would..

At the end of the day, nothing you say changes the fact that Whyte was ordered to fight Ortiz to become mandatory and Whyte opted to fight Joseph Parker instead,
 
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LOL these lying delusional British weirdos just won’t stop... @The Ruler 09 Ortiz rejected Dillion Whyte huh.. Last I checked that fight was ordered by the WBC as a final eliminator.. which means you get no choice if you want to become mandatory.. So when that fight was ordered by the WBC remind us what happened.. Remind us what Dianabol Whyte decided to do

Three of these things are not like the others. See if you see what I see.

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but 1 thing that can't be said honestly is that he ducked anybody, he's been willing to fight all these fighters, he's a true fighter, I'd rather a fighter go in and take an L than be scared and fraudulently prop up their record like Wilder and Ortiz have done.
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So why did he duck the the fight that was ordered by the WBC to be Wilders mando and chose to face Parker??
Keep ducking
 

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Lmao. The lies are hilarious man. I don't really get why people do it, some kind of bias I guess. He's fought Joshua, Ortiz refused the fight on multiple occasions, Wilder he's offered multiple career high pay days to fight him and everybody knows he's been chasing that fight for the longest, and you're throwing Breazeale in too lol... He was more than willing to fight Breazeale but the WBC changed it and just gave the mandatory to Breazeale, everything I'm saying is facts. Whyte isn't a puppet at all, you don't seem to really know what you're talking about cause that's the furthest thing from him, he doesn't toe the line at all. Whyte may get knocked out, if he fought Wilder I'd have Wilder as favourite, that's not the debate, but 1 thing that can't be said honestly is that he ducked anybody, he's been willing to fight all these fighters, he's a true fighter, I'd rather a fighter go in and take an L than be scared and prop up their record like Wilder and Ortiz have done.
First I’ll give the info on Joshua if you aren’t a champion then you have no reason to duck a championship fight unless you have another champ eyed up
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boxingnews24.com/2019/01/dillian-whyte-offered-5m-for-anthony-joshua-fight/amp/

Eddie Hearn has reportedly offered Matchroom fighter Dillian Whyte (25-1, 18 KOs) £4million [$5.2 million] to challenge IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (22-0, 21 KOs) on April 13 at Wembley Stadium in London, England. Hearn isn’t sure whether Whyte will agree to the offer or not. He’s hoping he will, but it’s still too early to know.

Then he had the chance to fight Breazale instead of Chisora for the real mandatory.

Dillian Whyte has been called out by Dominic Breazeale after failing to get Wilder

"You know, I thought the Dillian Whyte fight and myself was actually going to happen this year," Breazeale told Sky Sports.”

"It's definitely up to Dillian Whyte, but I'm a fan pleaser, and if the fans want to see it, I'm going to be the guy to give it.”

"He's bound with the situation with the WBC and his silver belt, and I have the WBC mandatory. I only thought it was right for him and myself to get in the ring and square it off as the fans would love to see, so hopefully that fight does come here in the near future.”

I already posted the interview with Ortiz saying they never sent a contract which has never been denied.

Deontay Wilder declares he will fight Dillian Whyte, but only on one condition

“If he can get through Ortiz, then he’s got me, no doubt… That’s respectable.

“Anybody that fights Ortiz is gonna get respect from me.”

Deontay Wilder says he’ll fight Dillian Whyte if he beats Luis Ortiz ⋆ Boxing News 24


”I have no problems with Dillian Whyte. If they put Joshua on that contract, I have no problems fighting Whyte,” Wilder said to Tha boxing Voice. ”I’ll make them another deal. If Dillian Whyte fights Luis Ortiz and beats him, I will fight Dillian Whyte. That’s another one for them. They can take it or leave it. The only way they can get me in with Dillian Whyte is to fight Luis Ortiz and beat him or you put Joshua on that contract. I will fight you easy,”

This my last time responding to you about Whyte because he’s irrelevant and fighting Wach. I’m sure Ortiz would take the fight next year even with all the problems going on. If Whyte is who you say he is, he should make that fight no matter what it takes. Until then duck, duck, duck, no goose.
 

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First I’ll give the info on Joshua if you aren’t a champion then you have no reason to duck a championship fight unless you have another champ eyed up
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boxingnews24.com/2019/01/dillian-whyte-offered-5m-for-anthony-joshua-fight/amp/

Eddie Hearn has reportedly offered Matchroom fighter Dillian Whyte (25-1, 18 KOs) £4million [$5.2 million] to challenge IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (22-0, 21 KOs) on April 13 at Wembley Stadium in London, England. Hearn isn’t sure whether Whyte will agree to the offer or not. He’s hoping he will, but it’s still too early to know.

Then he had the chance to fight Breazale instead of Chisora for the real mandatory.

Dillian Whyte has been called out by Dominic Breazeale after failing to get Wilder

"You know, I thought the Dillian Whyte fight and myself was actually going to happen this year," Breazeale told Sky Sports.”

"It's definitely up to Dillian Whyte, but I'm a fan pleaser, and if the fans want to see it, I'm going to be the guy to give it.”

"He's bound with the situation with the WBC and his silver belt, and I have the WBC mandatory. I only thought it was right for him and myself to get in the ring and square it off as the fans would love to see, so hopefully that fight does come here in the near future.”

I already posted the interview with Ortiz saying they never sent a contract which has never been denied.

Deontay Wilder declares he will fight Dillian Whyte, but only on one condition

“If he can get through Ortiz, then he’s got me, no doubt… That’s respectable.

“Anybody that fights Ortiz is gonna get respect from me.”

Deontay Wilder says he’ll fight Dillian Whyte if he beats Luis Ortiz ⋆ Boxing News 24


”I have no problems with Dillian Whyte. If they put Joshua on that contract, I have no problems fighting Whyte,” Wilder said to Tha boxing Voice. ”I’ll make them another deal. If Dillian Whyte fights Luis Ortiz and beats him, I will fight Dillian Whyte. That’s another one for them. They can take it or leave it. The only way they can get me in with Dillian Whyte is to fight Luis Ortiz and beat him or you put Joshua on that contract. I will fight you easy,”

This my last time responding to you about Whyte because he’s irrelevant and fighting Wach. I’m sure Ortiz would take the fight next year even with all the problems going on. If Whyte is who you say he is, he should make that fight no matter what it takes. Until then duck, duck, duck, no goose.

There's no info you can give about that I don't know already. I know Joshua offered him the fight, he didn't turn the fight down because he was scared of Josuha, he turned it down because the initial offers he felt were too low (they improved the offers later) and he choose to go the WBC route, I assume you think Wilder is better/more dangerous than Joshua (reasonable opinion), so how could he duck Joshua if he's going after Wilder? Also not to mention the fact he's already fought him lol. Some of your misinformation seems to come from being unfamiliar with who you're talking about and their characters and history. Joshua and Whyte have a long standing feud, Whyte wants to fight Joshua multiple times. He weighed up do I want to fight Joshua now again or go the WBC route (when he was already number 1 for and had been chasing for years) , he badly wants the Wilder fight, very badly. He's been calling out Wilder for years now, there's the famous clip everyone knows about and he's made multiple offers for that fight to Wilder, career high offers to him yet Wilder rejected them all, he is the 1 who is REALLY ducking, when you look at facts not bias speculation. I don't have any allegiance to any of these fighters, I just respect the ones willing to actually fight. Whyte has a history of being willing to fight tough opponents, so does AJ.

Whyte was number 1 and should have got his fight, he was going to get it by February but UKAD not releasing a statement yet gave the WBC an excuse to delay his mandatory yet again. If it's cleared up now it's February 2021 apparently, which is probably around 4 fights away, I doubt he will risk his mandatory position with huge risks again now, he's done that already. Also they will look to appeal if and when he's cleared so it may be sooner. The fight he's having in Saudi is a tickover fight for ring rust, he wanted Wilder in Febuary 2020 and obviously way before that.

What you're saying makes ZERO sense. None at all, it seems like you haven't been following what's actually been going on. It's a known fact Whyte accepted the Breazeale fight but after the Fury vs Wilder 2 negotiations broke down they gave it to Breazeale, so how can he duck a fight he accepted? That only didn't happen because it was out of his control, he desperately wanted that fight to finally become mandatory after being number 1 for years.

That's some bullshyt about Ortiz too, Wilder shouldn't get to dictate other people fighting people to get what they already are owed, that is corruption and another example of Wilder's rampant ducking, so thanks for exposing that to everybody also. By the way, Whyte said he'd do that fight with Ortiz too if Wilder signed a contract saying if he did he would fight Whyte next, Wilder of course refused to do this.

What you just posted is a clear example of Wilder's ducking and dodging, why would he not fight Dillian Whyte when had career high offers to do so? Ducking is the only reason. Look at the vast array of bums on Wilder's record and then he refuses to fight an actual credible fighter for a change. Because his whole career has been a charade and a hype job, his power is real, I rate him as a fighter, but he's been a scared and cowardly fighter and has done some of the most shameful ducking have seen. 1 good win against an old man with blood pressure issues after 43 fights is embarrassing. I catch second hand embarrassment, he should have gone and tried to be great, he could have been undisputed already, instead he's rematching old men he's already knocked out.
 
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