desjardins
Veteran
He beat Lamont Peterson and Abregu too
Tank would be lucky to retire with similar resume at this rate
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He beat Lamont Peterson and Abregu too
Tank would be lucky to retire with similar resume at this rate
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
How many people carried their power to heavyweight from a lower weight? Ali said Bob Forster hit like a mule but thing is his chin didn't hold up.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
If Gamboa was on ESPN TR Tim Bradley would be hyping him N talking him up for a Bud rematch
Bradley moves up to 147 N dragged up the corpse of Cassamayor as his opp
Tank moving up N fighting Gamboa who been at 35
“Ol it’s ok if I do it.... bu bu bu but it’s different
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Conscious Pilot
Do Better.
malbaker86
Gators
Soooooooo.....Gassiev just ISN'T going fight this year huh????
malbaker86
Gators
Dude is one of those boxers that just fights up or down to the level of his competition. Somebody else known and active does that as well but i can't think of who at the moment
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Fury
I think BJS might have finally slipped though, don’t think we will ever see the prime BJS again, he looks a bit pudgy at 168 but can’t make 160 w/o peds. Eats a lot of junk between camps.
Guillermo Jones
Shoulder injuries are serious
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
I'mma add choynski. Could have been lhw. A quote
"In fact, James J. Jeffries claimed that the hardest blow he ever received in a bout came from Choynski during their 20-round draw. During that bout, Choynski hit Jeffries with a right hand so powerful that the punch drove one of Jeffries' teeth into his lip. The tooth was lodged so deeply that one of Jeffries' cornermen was forced to cut it out with a knife between rounds."
malbaker86
Gators
That's who it was...Fury!!
yea they are and with him moving to HW, def gotta treat that with caution since he's still soo young (allegedly lol)
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Him being a company man like all the other guys - fighters or not - who appear as commentators to xy network doesn't make him wrong though. Unless you want to say nobody who appears as a part of a broadcast team can criticize how other fighters are handled.
I see why you are saying it but at the end of the day he's right about Davis's that's the point now.
sheesh its like pulling teeth finding articles praising the monster-donaire fight and giving it the props it deserves among the lesser quality big fights the last couple of weekends
Inoue-Donaire-WBSS: Boxing Brilliance
By Tris Dixon
Published On Mon Nov 11, 2019, 01:53 AM EST
Nonito Donaire is always on hand to remind us why we love this sport.
He’s almost 37 and has never looked fitter.
He’s nearer the end than the beginning but his chin is still resolute.
He remains a destructive hitter.
He is quick with a smile, in victory or defeat, and is happy to shake hands or an embrace, whether he wins or loses.
He answers hard questions. He loves his wife. He’s a role model to his kids. He’s adored, admired and appreciated by boxing.
He’s given us Knockouts of the Year, Upsets of the Year, he’s bounced through the weights chasing greatness – not always money, but legacy – and he’s taken aim at the best over and over.
We should not have questioned him, but the vast majority of people in boxing thought it would be a matter of time before the vicious Japanese whirlwind Naoya Inoue swirled through him and made him his 17th stoppage victim in 19 fights in last week’s World Boxing Super Series finale.
Instead, Donaire finished his 12-round war with the pound for pound ‘Monster’ on his feet. Inoue longingly held onto the Filipino when they embraced at the end, a sliver of skin missing above his right eye, an orbital bone broken, part of his nose had been fractured and blood was streaming from it.
It had not been a procession or an announcement, it had been a gutcheck that solidified Inoue’s status as one of the best of the world, a fighter who, after a rest, will come back with experience you can’t teach and an education you can’t buy.
The respect wasn’t merely between the fighters, it was felt throughout the sport.
Yes, Inoue had won the World Boxing Super Series bantamweight crown but Donaire shared the spoils around the world with the credit he’d earned in defeat.
What happened next had the usually hardened features of social media warriors fighting back tears.
Donaire had promised his two young sons, who had travelled with him to Japan, that he would be coming back from the arena with the Muhammad Ali Trophy, so he asked his conqueror whether he could borrow it overnight for Jarel, six, and four-year-old Logan. Because unlike almost everyone else, Donaire had believed his name was on the trophy.
Critics thought he was added to the tournament because of name and novelty value, an old ex-champion with a valuable name and a broad fanbase that stretches across continents.
He saw it as nothing like that.
From the start, he thought it would boil down to him and Inoue and he knew when he met the tournament favourite before the event formally kicked off that they would not only cross swords at some point, but that they would tell the world far more about each other.
For Donaire it was destiny, and due to Inoue’s kindness he did get to share the trophy with his boys, even if it was just for the one night.
Of course, you can’t please all of the people all of the time. Not in boxing. Some repeatedly checked replays to see whether Donaire had actually recovered from a horrendous 11th-round body shot that eventually saw him drop to the floor where he listened to the referee’s count.
Long story short, boxing doesn’t use VAR. Donaire beat the referee’s count. Fight goes on.
The only remote point up for debate has been feasted on by many but not only is irrelevant, but who even cares. No one officially complained. No inspector was asked to explore. Two warriors gave their all and no one watching should have been looking again with a stopclock in one hand and magnifying glass in another trying to split hairs when the very best of this sport was on display. Despite that, there are always people trying to seek negatives instead of positives, especially in boxing. And they are often right, there are a lot of negatives in the sport but that doesn’t mean you must actively look for them when the focal point is, as a rarity, in the plus column.
And there have been so many pluses from the WBSS. Over the last three seasons it has produced one Fight of the Year contender after another. Two of the 2019 front-runners are now Inoue-Donaire and the Josh Taylor-Regis Prograis 140-pound thriller from two weeks ago.
It is a crazy logic, isn’t it? How pairing the best with the best results in high-class match-ups. Sure, the blend in styles always helps, but the formula is undeniable; the results speak for themselves. Kalle Sauerland and the team at Comosa have created a platform that has allowed some of the best fighters in the world to not only rise but to thrive. They’ve unified titles, cleaned out divisions, left parts of their souls in the ring and borrowed against their futures and the fans have often been delighted. There have been blips; legal wrangles, disputes and quarrels, but that’s sadly as much part of the sport as the wars, the blood, the emotion, the sportsmanship and the winning and losing.
And at its most humane level it allowed two warriors last week to share respect, and one to fulfil a promise to his two boys.
Boxing does a lot of things wrong, but the WBSS is something that must continue at all costs.
We all need more of Donaire and Inoue – the thrills, the spills, the respect and the kindness – in our lives and certainly in our sport.
Showtime's Espinoza: No Sport Lies To Its Fans Like Boxing
By Keith Idec
Published On Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:32 AM EST
LAS VEGAS – Like lots of people involved in boxing, Stephen Espinoza believes Gervonta Davis is one of the sport’s biggest punchers.
What the Showtime executive can’t believe sometimes is the shameless manner in which certain networks and promoters push self-serving narratives, while utterly ignoring the truth. Espinoza pointed to a competing network omitting Davis from its list of the sport’s top punchers as a prime example of attempting to mislead viewers with what he considers agenda-driven information.
Espinoza, Showtime’s president of sports and event programming, discussed dishonesty in boxing during a wide-ranging interview with reporters recently at an event to promote Davis’ next fight. Showtime will televise the bout between Baltimore’s Davis (22-0, 21 KOs) and Cuba’s Yuriorkis Gamboa (30-2, 18 KOs) on December 28 from State Farm Arena in Atlanta.
Espinoza is confident Showtime’s team of announcers – Al Bernstein, Jim Gray, Paulie Malignaggi and Mauro Ranallo – won’t oversell Davis-Gamboa as something more than it is. Though talented and accomplished, Gamboa will turn 38 five days before he encounters the 25-year-old Davis in a 12-round lightweight fight.
“I don’t wanna get back on my soapbox again,” Espinoza explained, “but the presentation of the sport – I mean, one of the things we talk about is, is it possible to be objective and unbiased? I think that’s something that our announcers take pride in. And I think that’s, you know, I’ve said that there is no sport that exists that lies as regularly to its fans as boxing. The announcers lie. You know, the promoters lie. And it’s not healthy. College football doesn’t sell every, single game as Alabama-LSU. Not every NFL game is the Super Bowl. Sometimes it’s just a game. And I think we do a disservice when we try to sell something as one thing, when it’s not.
“You know, and we do an even bigger disservice to the sport when you’re giving context – these are the people who are important, these are the people who matter – and you’re leaving [Davis] out because of agendas and biases. You know, look, I’m not gonna say we haven’t made mistakes or shown our own preferences at times. But the goal here is building the sport and doing it in a way that rewards the fans. And the one thing we have to do with fans is be honest.”
Davis, a two-time 130-pound champion, will make his third appearance on Showtime this year when he boxes Gamboa. That telecast also will feature Jean Pascal (34-6-1, 20 KOs, 1 NC) and Badou Jack (22-2-3, 13 KOs) in a 12-round fight for Pascal’s WBA interim light heavyweight title.
espinoza is gold with some of the shyt he says
Who he taking shots at? lowkey he dissed tank too with the significance talkespinoza is gold with some of the shyt he says
