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[theflyest]

Looked good to me when he was boxing Pascal up plus if he was rusty what that makes old ass Pascal? Browne was winning easily... until he didn't. Then he was winning easily again... until he didn't.
Imo not pulling back his hands in time, shaky chin is not really because of rust but because he is just not as good as he was made out to be after the Jack fight.

I remember before the fight actually there were ppl on social media who said Browne is the best 175er

Fair enough though, agree to disagree.

Pascal is in the same boat too.

they are all rusty, and I'm not saying all of these guys would win if they fought more, but you do look at few fights like "if this dude didn't have such a long layoff between fights, he could have took this."

 

[theflyest]

Farmer prolly punching walls right now.

I was watching Robert Garcia on EsNews over a month ago and he said he didn't believe Farmer would do a Tank fight.

He said based on the amount of money Farmer makes, it just made more sense to keep fighting guys on DAZN rather then a little larger payday against Tank and a potential loss.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I was watching Robert Garcia on EsNews over a month ago and he said he didn't believe Farmer would do a Tank fight.

He said based on the amount of money Farmer makes, it just made more sense to keep fighting guys on DAZN rather then a little larger payday against Tank and a potential loss.

I feel you. I almost wish Garcia threw out some figures cuz nikkas is looking like businessmen instead of boxers right now.

Farmer has to step up the comp soon, cuz the nikka is getting stale and using Tank name for relevance will only work for so long if you keep fighting jobbers.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I saw this question asked in a FB boxing group and I'll ask it here: Mikey Garcia said he saw something in Errol Spence to make him want to move up and challenge him, here we are close to 6 months later and I'm still trying to figure out what he saw.

 

[DallasTxRep]

is he still alive?

 

[patscorpio]

I saw this question asked in a FB boxing group and I'll ask it here: Mikey Garcia said he saw something in Errol Spence to make him want to move up and challenge him, here we are close to 6 months later and I'm still trying to figure out what he saw.

he saw dollars

 

[aceboon]

I feel you. I almost wish Garcia threw out some figures cuz nikkas is looking like businessmen instead of boxers right now.

Farmer has to step up the comp soon, cuz the nikka is getting stale and using Tank name for relevance will only work for so long if you keep fighting jobbers.

His DAZN deal that he just finished up was reportedly 4 fights for $2M total, good ass money for someone without a big following fighting @ 130

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

His DAZN deal that he just finished up was reportedly 4 fights for $2M total, good ass money for someone without a big following fighting @ 130

500k a fight for someone of his stature is damn good, but I still feel like he should have taken the Tank fight for 2mil.
If you think you can beat dude, take the money and go for it. If he put on a good performance win or lose, his stock will still rise.

 

[acbjr22]

Tank gne make his money regardless. Tank is a budding star is his own right...who
the fukk is a Tevin Farmer.

Farmer needs tank more than Tank needs Farmer. Yea sooner or later it gne have to be some cross-promotional shyt going on but by then Tank will be able to command more of the pie.
Either that or Tank is going to leave them like @aceboon said...


Still Tank has options RIGHT NOW that’s good enough for him not to fight on DAZN. What options Farmer got he waiting on jojo diaz


When and if Tank decide to switch over that bag will still be there...Farmer dnt have that same luxury.


Honestly Tank probably didn’t mind fighting on DAZN....his people probably just didn’t OK it..

Most of the shyt you said is irrelevant. We are talking about maximizing career earnings. PBC will not pay as much money as DAZN for the fight with Tevin Farmer, so he would be leaving money on the table. That's not a smart business move. He could suffer a career ending injury next fight. A long career is not guaranteed. That loyalty bullshyt is for the birds. These nikkas not fighting for fun. This is a career, a way to take care of their families. If another man wants you to take food out of your family's mouth for the sake of his own business interests, he's not your homie and not an advisor that you want in your corner.

 

[King P]

So you mean to tell me after all the back and forth shyt talking they did, we're not actually gonna get a Tank/Farmer fight

Nobody should be surprised about this

Now that Davis is at 135, let's see how long it takes for a Tank/Loma fight to happen if it happens at all. You already know Tank (and his team) are basically waiting until Loma gets older. They probably already think he's lost a step.

I won't hold my breath though

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Most of the shyt you said is irrelevant. We are talking about maximizing career earnings. PBC will not pay as much money as DAZN for the fight with Tevin Farmer, so he would be leaving money on the table. That's not a smart business move. He could suffer a career ending injury next fight. A long career is not guaranteed. That loyalty bullshyt is for the birds. These nikkas not fighting for fun. This is a career, a way to take care of their families. If another man wants you to take food out of your family's mouth for the sake of his own business interests, he's not your homie and not an advisor that you want in your corner.

How is it irrelevant...like I said Davis probably didn’t mind fighting on DAZN. Their are very few free agents in boxing. It ain’t loyalty it called being under contract. Floyd made the jump from HBO to showtime when his contract was up. I’m pretty sure if Davis was a free agent he would’ve took the fight. That was crazy money for a Farmer fight. But he ain’t a free agent and obviously his promoters and managers ain’t gne sign off on it. So it was no reason for him to entertain the fight offer from DAZN.



PBC have zero incentive to help DAZN out. It’s a reason DAZN paying crazy money to begin with because they have to overpay to compete.

 

[King P]

How is it irrelevant...like I said Davis probably didn’t mind fighting on DAZN. Their are very few free agents in boxing. It ain’t loyalty it called being under contract. Floyd made the jump from HBO to showtime when his contract was up. I’m pretty sure if Davis was a free agent he would’ve took the fight. That was crazy money for a Farmer fight. But he ain’t a free agent and obviously his promoters and managers ain’t gne sign off on it. So it was no reason for him to entertain the fight offer from DAZN.



PBC have zero incentive to help DAZN out. It’s a reason DAZN paying crazy money to begin with because they have to overpay to compete.

Floyd isn't a good example though. Floyd had a contract specifically with Showtime to fight specifically on their network. So he is contractually bound. These guys have promoter contracts, but they are not bound to any networks because they don't have network deals. Nothing is stopping them from going over and fighting on whatever network. Their advisers just happen to advise against it (which I get)

 

[reservoirdogs]

Floyd isn't a good example though. Floyd had a contract specifically with Showtime to fight specifically on their network. So he is contractually bound. These guys have promoter contracts, but they are not bound to any networks because they don't have network deals. Nothing is stopping them from going over and fighting on whatever network. Their advisers just happen to advise against it (which I get)

Agree

Farmer shouldn't be shytted on just cause he didn't comfort Davis' team by taking the fight for less money than what his side offered.

ESPN+ and DAZN can work together
ESPN and PBC can work together
DAZN and PBC working together seems to be the problem. There's a fundamental dislike between them for once and also their models just don't mash anyhow. DAZN is exclusively virtual while FOX/Showtime is almost exclusively uses TV.
ESPN can work with both because they are both TV and online.

PBC and DAZN can only work together by pursue bids or if one side decides that xy fighter is sacrificable enough to let him fight on the other's network (see Ruiz before the AJ fight) or if they set up some exchange deal between each other like TR and Matchroom did in 140. First Hooker beat Saucedo on ESPN then Ramirez beat Hooker on DAZN.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Agree

Farmer shouldn't be shytted on just cause he didn't comfort Davis' team by taking the fight for less money than what his side offered.

ESPN+ and DAZN can work together
ESPN and PBC can work together
DAZN and PBC working together seems to be the problem. There's a fundamental dislike between them for once and also their models just don't mash anyhow. DAZN is exclusively virtual while FOX/Showtime is almost exclusively uses TV.
ESPN can work with both because they are both TV and online.

PBC and DAZN can only work together by pursue bids or if one side decides that xy fighter is sacrificable enough to let him fight on the other's network (see Ruiz before the AJ fight) or if they set up some exchange deal between each other like TR and Matchroom did in 140. First Hooker beat Saucedo on ESPN then Ramirez beat Hooker on DAZN.

Well if we keeping it 100 that was the only way the fight was going to be made regardless of what DAZN was gne throw. PBC ain’t build tank up for him to have his most anticipated and hyped fight to be on another network. Like somebody posted a page or 2 back I dnt think Farmer had any intention of fighting Tank. He was just using Tank for clout. He knew damn well he was gne have to switch over and fight on another network to make that fight.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Well if we keeping it 100 that was the only way the fight was going to be made regardless of what DAZN was gne throw. PBC ain’t build tank up for him to have his most anticipated and hyped fight to be on another network. Like somebody posted a page or 2 back I dnt think Farmer had any intention of fighting Tank. He was just using Tank for clout. He knew damn well he was gne have to switch over and fight on another network to make that fight.

I understand that but Farmer can't just let himself to be bullied
You can't let yourself being strong armed into taking a fight for less money just cause the other side is hell bent on not accepting your side's higher offer.

Expecting the other side to give you their fighter for a fight even though you'd pay less just because you made up your mind is not a fair competition anyhow. So I don't expect Farmer's side to comply. It would be foolish.
I let it go already though... they won't fight each other.
I just hope they both drop the fukk shyt and start to fight better dudes than they fought so far (except Pedraza). Davis vs Gamboa won't cut it, at least make him fight Easter but I guess that's a no go too because the buddy-buddy shyt.
Farmer vs Diaz would be good imo, Diaz would have a legit chance to beat him but Farner would be the favorite.
Don't see why Farmer/Diaz or the winner of their fight couldn't fight Cancio who's on DAZN too. Berchelt can fight everywhere and has the best resume out of 130ers even though I did not like his last move.