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Dude who sound like Biz Markie in the Ring Gang Radio podcast got a mad cute Voice.
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I can totally see Ruiz coming in out of shape and getting sparked by Joshua.
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ruiz has never really been in shape in the conventional sense lol..his lowest weight is like in mid 240s which use to frustrate me
 
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reservoirdogs said:
Nah I disagree with that we don’t have a big enough sample size of top Cubans turned pro young enough. Rigo was almost 33 when he washed Donaire, Ortiz gave Wilder all he could handle at 38 (or older) imagine if he's just 5 years younger.
Lara and Gamboa turned pro when they were 25-26 which is ok but still not the usual, Lara had a pretty good career too and Gamboa unfortunately spiralled out and made bad career decisions like signing with 50 Cent.

I maintain that there would be a lot more Cuban success could they turn pro legally in their early 20s like boxers from other countries can. Most of the Cuban fighters stay in Cuba being amateurs in all their career I think comparative to their small number in pro boxing they made a lot of noise in this decade wheh more of them turned pro than the decades before (I mean after the 50s-60s or so).
I get that you are irritated by the hype but they are still good.
Actually from the schools you listed PR and Michigan does worse than Cuba in these last few years or so even though all of their fighters are free to turn pro so they can represent themselves in greater numbers.

Who's really out there from Michigan now? Tony Harrison and Anthony Dirrell?
How many (US) fighters making noise from Florida right now? Thurman, Lubin, and...?
From PR? Acosta, Pedraza, Dulorme, Machado, Matias...?

Cuba's Rigo, Dorticos, Ortiz, Ugas, Lara, Barrera outmatches any of those other groups I listed all that while Cuba has 46 registered pro and PR has 219 so almost 5X as much. Can't find how many registered boxers Michigan or Florida have but I guess it's more than 46 too.
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1st off, I'm speaking all time. Which is why I mentioned Casamayor. If i didn't, Cuba would only have Rigo to hype as this generation's great fighter.

Our boxing eyes see different breh. All them nikkas you name dropping are just ok in the grand scheme of things.
At the end of the day. Cuba only produced 2 pro boxers that would make the HOF.. (Casamayor and Rigo)

Florida, Michigan, Puerto Rico, and Mexico has produced more HOF quality fighters and don't get the imaginary "school of boxing" hype that Cuba gets. which has always been my point. You can add NY and Cali too.

This nikka really trying to argue Ugas as some good fighter. :mjlol:

Only Barrera I respect come from Mexico. That Cuban nikka just looked like shyt against Hart who looked less shytty. :picard:



If Ugas was from Europe, he'd be looked at the same way we view Postol. :sas2:
 
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