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what this about? mike coppinger is doing his own thing now?
The Athletic is a subscription sports media site, I resisted for a minute but damn near all my favorite NBA and NFL writers eventually got hired by them. $4 a month for the first year, I can live with that.
 

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The Athletic is launching a boxing vertical


It's a bit funny though how Coppinger's not mentioning he worked/works(?) for PBC in the whole article even when he's going on about how boxing's breaking news writers are often forced to join allegiances with promotional companies and such for access. The same time he mentions that he worked for Ring bough by DLH in 2007.

I get what he's saying, it's hard to be both a credible and a successful "breaking news writer" in boxing where promoters, fighters and etc. can just take your access if you criticise them anyhow unlike in some other, more organized, more central sports but it's still a bit odd that Coppinger of all people is writing about this. For example I can hardly imagine anyone from PBC asked him to put both Charlos on his P4P list after he has done an interview with them before their double header. More like he tried to be a "good employee". Then he removed both of them quick after their performances, lol.
 

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Hearn: Anthony Joshua Wants To Right His Wrong at MSG

Hearn: Anthony Joshua Wants To Right His Wrong at MSG

By Victor Salazar

New York - The boxing world is still buzzing about the recent heavyweight upset that happened at Madison Square Garden - when Andy Ruiz (33-1, 22 KO’s) stopped Anthony Joshua (22-1, 21 KO’s.

A few days later, Joshua invoked his rematch clause. Joshua has told his promoter Eddie Hearn that he wants the rematch back in New York. Hearn does not agree.

"AJ wouldn't be doing the wrong thing," Hearn told BoxingScene.com. "I admire his mindset to want to back to the US but he wouldn’t be doing anything wrong in taking the fight in the UK.”

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Ultimately Joshua doesn't want that night to be remembered as his only Madison Square Garden moment.

"Joshua said... 'wouldn’t it be unbelievable if we were to right the wrong at the place it all went wrong,'" stated Hearn.

"I want the fight to be in the UK. The Garden, that night, it would always be there so I understand why he wants the fight there. We must win this fight. He said we're going to win this fight. Ultimately AJ will be the one to decide."

Hearn said that Joshua was back in the gym preparing because this time its different. This time he is the challenger.

"He had few days of sulking," explained the promoter. "He's excited about his return. You're a challenger now. He has to be excited."

Ruiz has stated that he wants $50 million dollars to fight Joshua in the United Kingdom.

Hearn understands the logic and hopes a deal can be made for the fight to happen in the UK. But it ultimately falls on one person - Anthony Joshua.

"Ruiz wants the fight here, it'd be a bigger advantage," Hearn said of Ruiz.

"You fought Ruiz in his home country and he should fight you in yours, but it will ultimately fall on Joshua on where the fight is."

I think that would be the good move and respectable from Joshua
It's not like he would be trashed by fans if it would be in the UK but he knows that if he takes revenge in the UK the last casual US viewer impression about him will be still "that Euro guy who came here and got knocked out". If they have long term plans to build Joshua in the US, winning the rematch against Ruiz in the same arena he lost to him would be a good first step.
If he loses to Ruiz it's whatever where he loses, it's equally terrible for them...
 

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Hearn: Anthony Joshua Wants To Right His Wrong at MSG



I think that would be the good move and respectable from Joshua
It's not like he would be trashed by fans if it would be in the UK but he knows that if he takes revenge in the UK the last casual US viewer impression about him will be still "that Euro guy who came here and got knocked out". If they have long term plans to build Joshua in the US, winning the rematch against Ruiz in the same arena he lost to him would be a good first step.
If he loses to Ruiz it's whatever where he loses, it's equally terrible for them...

:mjlol: the man was dominated, got beat the fukk up, and concussed.. Its a pretty stupid move to come right back to the crime scene without a tune-up just to please Eddie Hearn... The same fans give Tyson Fury all the passes in the world after his draw for ducking an immediate rematch with Wilder to fight some bums on ESPN 1st and he did way better than AJ.. They would give Joshua the same pass
 

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I really don’t think Wilder was ducking. He do be cherry picking bums 98% his career tho but that’s another story. It was more of Wilder people (Haymon) didn’t want to concede to the reasonable demands of Joshua’s team. Wilder fighting Joshua on DAZN and/or with Joshua being A-Side was bad for Haymon/PBC/Showtime. The money was good for Wilder but promotional conflict got in the way. Wilder was lame and tacky for saying AJ was ducking him when he knew that wasn’t the case.



It’s the same reason Ortiz turned down 8million. I think he turned it down because be wasn’t allowed to take the AJ right. They was saving him for Wilder. They sent Ruiz over there to be the sacrificial lamb because he wasn’t in the Wilder plans. Ruiz got all the belts now but wilder next 3 fights set in stone even if Ruiz do win again in December the earliest he would be able to fight wilder would be like 2021.


To be fair I think i think if the roles was reversed AJ and Hearn would’ve spurned Showtime/PBC too. But at the end of the day Wilder got fukked over by his people because he lost out on 50mil plus a chance at all the belts.
He’ll probably end up losing out on like 30m but the rematch is going to do a lot and the trilogy probably more
 
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