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[patscorpio]

How much we pay for HBO N they give us 1 fight erry 12 weeks


DAZN alright by me with all the fights they say they goin give us

meant to ask you..you going to that chicago card breh?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

meant to ask you..you going to that chicago card breh?

My brother getting married N that's the weekend of the bachelor party...I'll be in Florida



When he told me the date I was

 

[patscorpio]

My brother getting married N that's the weekend of the bachelor party...I'll be in Florida



When he told me the date I was

damn..well hopefully another chicago card pops up

 

[kej718]

Eddie Hearn speaking that truth...love him or hate him, you literally can't deny what he is saying logically.




Cliffs:

Showtime has to put out the following fighters this year with only 2x shows booked until the end of the year...how is this going to happen?

-Davis, Broner, Charlo twins, Hurd, Spence, Garcia, Thurman

(makes sense..it will almost be impossible to get half of these fighters on Showtime this year...ontop of that, they won't even do a damn Showtime All Access for anyone these days!)

Top fighters need to be active in order to stay relevant - Keith Thurman has dropped off of a cliff, Charlos can't be satisfied with just doing GQ shoots for Magazines and IG, they need to fight in order to build their legacy

(Agree)

Alluded to Spence only fighting once last year, afraid it might happen again this year...can't build a true following or be the megastar you want to be with only one fight a year, there is no momentum.

(This might be the most talented era in boxing ever...yet some of these fighters are only going at it once a year..he's right, you can't build a following doing that or a true legacy)

DAZN is going to properly promote all of their cards with behind the scene footage and proper build ups to fights...

(I agree 100% Showtime is slacking with their All Access the last 2x years...no casual fan interest, no hype, no legacy for fighters. When was the last time Showtime did an All Access?? You're telling me they couldn't at least do one for Charlo/Trout or Hurd/Lara, or Garcia/Easter this year? This is the type of extra support and attention these fighters need to get to the next level of popularity. Without these type of build ups the fights lack that extra excitement and allure.

UFC has their behind the scenes Embedded for every main event and sometimes even the co-main events. Don't even get me started on HBO 24/7..it's non existent.)


At worst, Matchroom Boxing is going to hopefully make Showtime, HBO, ESPN step their game up with promo (at least you would hope so..for the fighters sake!). I don't know how anyone can hate on this..it's good for boxing.

I don't know about you..yet I want guys like Spence, Garcia, Crawford, Charlos, Hurd to be household names..and then coming up I want guys like Davis, Monster Inoue, Haney, Stevenson to be house hold names.

Thurman is injured. Spence fought twice this year (expected to fight a 3rd time in Dec probably at a bigger venue), that fight would have been PPV if not for Wilder vs Fury.
Charlos are supposed to do a card in Houston together (so they are being built up in their own state). Plus Jermall is in line for the WBC belt next so he is just waiting.
Hurd just unified with Lara, and is injured which is why he did not fight again yet.
The All Access is really for PPV fights, so their might be one for Wilder vs Fury. (They should put it on Youtube or social media, but I feel like boxing fans who already support them will be the only ones to watch.)

Look at his own fighters. Brook has only fought once since the Spence fight. Khan is facing another guy we don't care about. (If he can't get those 2 to fight when he has them both signed how can we expect him to make big fights with everyone else). Jacobs is fighting in a smaller venue for his next title fight.

Showtime
Errol Spence Jr. - Lamont Peterson
Deontay Wilder - Luis Ortiz
Robert Easter Jr. - Javier Fortuna
Mikey Garcia - Sergey Lipinets
Danny Garcia - Brandon Rios
James DeGale - Caleb Truax
Jarrett Hurd - Erislandy Lara
Jermall Charlo - Hugo Centeno Jr.
Adrien Broner - Jessie Vargas
Gervonta Davis - Jesus Cuellar
Adonis Stevenson - Badou Jack
Mikey Garcia - Robert Easter
Carl Frampton - Luke Jackson
Tyson Fury - Francesco Pianeta

Hearn
George Groves - Chris Eubank Jr.
Kell Brook - Sergey Rabchenko
Anthony Joshua - Joseph Parker
Dillian Whyte - Lucas Browne
Alexander Povetkin - David Price
Amir Khan - Phil Lo Greco
Daniel Jacobs - Maciej Sulecki
Dillian Whyte - Joseph Parker
Tony Bellew - David Haye

The only good fights he usually make are mandatory and those go on PPV over there. Why pay for DAZN if you already paying for Showtime? The only reason I would consider it would be to see
Regis Prograis and Naoya Inoue in the tournaments. His own fighter Maurice Hooker is not in the 140 tournament.

There next big cards are
Showime
Danny Garcia - Shawn Porter
David Benavidez - Anthony Dirrell
Adam Kownacki - Charles Martin
Joe Joyce - Devin Vargas

Khan is fighting Samuel Vargas that same day.

After that Spence , Garcia, Wilder, Fury, Frampton, Tank, Charlos are still expected to fight.

Hearn
Artur Beterbiev - Callum Johnson
Jessie Vargas - Thomas Dulorme
Jarrell Miller - Tomasz Adamek

after that
Billy Joe Saunders - Demetrius Andrade
Tevin Farmer - James Tennyson
Ryota Murata - Rob Brant

I get that fighters are fighting 2-3 times a year for Showtime, but you don't have to be as active when you get paid well. He talks about all this money he has backing him, but lost the Pulev fight and another purse bid to Top Rank. Hopefully he can make:
Aleksandr Usyk - Tony Bellew
Amir Khan - Kell Brook

I wish Showtime would put some of these guys on CBS to get more exposure like they did with Spence.

 

[kej718]

Sep 8 2018
Danny Garcia - Shawn Porter
Adam Kownacki - Charles Martin
Joe Joyce - Devin Vargas*
Amir Khan - Samuel Vargas

Sep 15 2018
Canelo Alvarez - Gennady Golovkin
Jaime Munguia - Brandon Cook
*David Lemieux - Gary O’Sullivan
Roman Gonzalez - Moises Fuentes

Sep 22 2018
Anthony Joshua - Alexander Povetkin

Sep 28 2018
George Groves - Callum Smith
Devin Haney - Juan Carlos Burgos
Jerwin Ancajas - Alejandro Santiago Barrios
Jose Uzcategui - Ezequiel Osvaldo Maderna

Oct 6 2018
Artur Beterbiev - Callum Johnson
Jessie Vargas - Thomas Dulorme
Jarrell Miller - Tomasz Adamek

Oct 7 2018
Naoya Inoue - Juan Carlos Payano

Oct 13 2018
Terence Crawford - Jose Benavidez

Oct 20 2018
Billy Joe Saunders - Demetrius Andrade
Tevin Farmer - James Tennyson
Ryota Murata - Rob Brant

Oct 27 2018
Daniel Jacobs - Sergiy Derevyanchenko
Regis Prograis - Terry Flanagan
Kubrat Pulev - Hughie Fury

Dec 1 2018
Adonis Stevenson - Oleksandr Gvozdyk

 

[patscorpio]

His own fighter Maurice Hooker is not in the 140 tournament.

hooker could not enter the tournament because of the wbo mandatory..the only way that was going to happen is if saucedo also entered the WBSS and arum was not going to let that happen

 

[patscorpio]

There next big cards are
Showime
Danny Garcia - Shawn Porter
David Benavidez - Anthony Dirrell
Adam Kownacki - Charles Martin
Joe Joyce - Devin Vargas

benavidez-dirrell isnt on this card

 

[patscorpio]

Beltran-Pedraza ESPN Triple - Telecast Averaged 532K Viewers

By Keith Idec

ESPN’s boxing ratings slipped Saturday night from the viewership the network attracted the previous week.

Nielsen Media Research revealed Tuesday that ESPN’s three-bout broadcast Saturday night from Glendale, Arizona, was watched by an average audience of 532,000. Its telecast the prior Saturday night, a two-fight show from Atlantic City on August 18, averaged 686,000 viewers.

The main event Saturday night was a lightweight title fight in which Jose Pedraza defeated Ray Beltran by unanimous decision. Puerto Rico’s Pedraza (25-1, 12 KOs) was sharp throughout their 12-round bout, dropped Phoenix’s Beltran (35-8-1, 21 KOs, 1 NC) with an uppercut in the 11th round and won by scores of 117-110, 117-110 and 115-112 to take the WBO 135-pound championship from him.

The telecast Saturday night from Gila River Arena also included knockout victories by WBO super bantamweight champ Isaac Dogboe and women’s junior lightweight prospect Mikaela Mayer.

Ghana’s Dogboe (20-0, 14 KOs) knocked out Japan’s Hidenori Otake (31-3-3, 14 KOs) in the first round. The 37-year-old Otake hadn’t been knocked out in his 36-fight, 12-year pro career before Dogboe caught him with a left hook that knocked him down very early into their scheduled 12-round, 122-pound title bout.

Otake got up, but Dogboe continued to hurt him. Referee Chris Flores stepped in to stop the bout 2:18 into it.

Mayer, a 2016 Olympian from Los Angeles, knocked down Edina Kiss in the first round and scored a technical-knockout victory when Hungary’s Kiss (14-8, 8 KOs) decided not to leave her corner for the fourth round.

Below are the average ratings for each of promoter Top Rank’s five shows that aired live on the network this summer:

Date/Site Main Event Viewers

August 25 Jose Pedraza-Ray Beltran 532,000
Glendale, Arizona

August 18 Bryant Jennings-Alexander Dimitrenko 686,000
Atlantic City

July 14 Regis Prograis-Juan Jose Velasco 518,000
New Orleans

July 7 Egidijus Kavaliauskas-Juan Abreu 534,000
Fresno, California

June 30 Gilberto Ramirez-Alexis Angulo 632,000
Oklahoma City

 

[kej718]

benavidez-dirrell isnt on this card

David Benavidez vs. Anthony Dirrell possible for Sept.8 » Boxing News
I guess they are moving it to another card then? Maybe they throw it on the Wilder vs Fury undercard

 

[kej718]

Seems like Crawford or Lomo are the only ones that do good numbers for them.

 

[kej718]

Tyson Fury says he’s signed contract for Deontay Wilder fight » Boxing News

Tyson Fury says he’s signed contract for Deontay Wilder fight

By Trevor McIntyre: Tyson Fury says he’s already signed the contract and sent it back to WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder’s management for a fight between them, which is expected to take place in November.


If this turns out to be a solid from Fury, then we should be hearing from Wilder and his team that they’ve signed their end of the contract and the Wilder-Fury fight will be ready to be announced soon.

Recently, ESPN writer Dan Rafael and British promoter Eddie Hearn both said that sources told them that the Wilder-Fury fight isn’t going to take place. It’s unclear who the sources are for the two. They didn’t say why Fury won’t be taking the fight with Wilder, but a lot of boxing fans believe that the 6’9” former heavyweight champion isn’t physically and mentally ready to step inside the ring with him. Fury has only had two fights since coming back from a 2 ½ year layoff in beating Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianeta, and he didn’t look sharp in either of those fights.

Fury looked good for a fighter coming off of a long, long layoff, but he didn’t show the kind of talent that would allow him to compete with a knockout puncher like Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs). It’s believed that Fury is a knockout waiting to happen if he does take the fight with the powerful American. There would be nothing wrong with Fury having second thoughts and choosing not to take the fight with Wilder. After all, it’s seen as an insane fight for Fury to take in the eyes of a lot of fans. Fury has done a good job of getting a lot of attention on himself by telling the fans that he wants to fight Wilder. If Fury backs out now, he won’t take too much flak. It’s better that Fury back out now rather later.

”They sent me the contract and I’ve signed it and sent it back,” Fury said to the dailymail.co.uk about him signing a contract for the Wilder fight and sending it back.

Wilder and Fury are rumored to be making $20 million each in a 50-50 fight. That’s a better deal for Wilder than the $15 million flat fee that he was given for a unification fight against IBF/WBA/WBO champion Anthony Joshua. Wilder wasn’t offered a percentage deal by Joshua’s promoter. Wilder agreed to take the fight, but Joshua didn’t agree to the $50 million offer from his management. The negotiations stopped for that fight when Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn decided to have him defend against his WBA mandatory Alexander Povetkin.

Fury, 29, doesn’t say when he signed the contract and sent it back. If Wilder’s team has been sitting on the contract for a week, then they likely will want changes to be made before they’ll agree to sign it.

What’s surprising is the fight hasn’t been announced officially as of yet. Fury and Wilder unofficially announced their fight on August 18 after Tyson defeated Francesco Pianeta in Belfast, Northern Ireland. But it’s now been 10 days since then, and yet the fight still hasn’t been announced. Promoters tend to start talking up fights before the contracts are signed, but we’re not seeing that here. That makes you wonder whether the Fury vs. Wilder fight will take place.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

who dat?

Austin Ammo Williams look him up on IG he nice.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

what are you complaining about? you're basically going to be using my account free when needed

GP HarvardPat GP now go eat some baked scod

Choc ya breh is getting married that weekend?!

 

[kej718]

 

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