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shyt's crazy, because I still thought Oscar had enough to edge Margarito, especially if they fought at 154 or close too it, but yeah he didn't wanna take no chances on that fight. :mjlol:

nikka cherrypicked his way to a career ending beat down :hhh:

I try not to shyt on that moment of Oscar bytchassness too much since he gave us so many big fights throughout his career, but iit was still a hoe move. The only fights I feel like we didn't get from him were Forrest and Winky, but damn, you can't fight everybody. :manny:

the wild thing is why he agreed to fight pacquiao at welterweight? he had the juice to make it at whatever weight/catchweight he wanted..might actually be a top 5 moment of all time where cherry picking went wrong

forrest fight when could that happen though? forrest had them down years after losing to mayorga twice and getting the shoulder surgery

winky i can see though..but then winky was a hard sell until the mosley and tito victories..at that point oscar was not interested in nikkas giving him a hard time anymore haha
 

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You love them nikkas that turn over rights that way man :russ:


I only do it if im setting a trap and I have a 90% chance that shyt is going to land because may allah help you if it doesn't :sadcam:
If you’re still moving you can throw the 1-2 like that once, and even if you don’t connect, you’d be able to feint the right then throw a quick check hook and knock them off balance, or run them into another right.

I love seeing hand turning and follow through like that. If Wlad threw his right like
that he would have KOd AJ.Shane would have KOD Floyd.

@seemorecizzy yoy gta stop calling Floyd the GOAT it’s mad disrespectful to Ali.
 

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If you’re still moving you can throw the 1-2 like that once, and even if you don’t connect, you’d be able to feint the right then throw a quick check hook and knock them off balance, or run them into another right.

I love seeing hand turning and follow through like that. If Wlad threw his right like that against AJ he would have KOd him. Shane could have KOd Floyd if he threw his right hand like that.

Imo uou dont see it as often because like i said if you do a full turn over like that n if a nikka take a quick step back :francis:

Its easier to steal rights like Yuzo posted because even if you miss you can duck under and out of danger. You need REALLY good footwork to duck under that way with full hip extension like that. I aint arguing or anything just my .02 on what works for me.:yeshrug:

I only throw it that way if ive feinted enough where he dont bite and my foot is where i know i can touch him and even still prefer the headbutt/grapple out to safety if im turning it over like that. :mjgrin: followed by the "my fault bruh"
 

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Loma vs Pacquiao is a great fight.

Lets us get comfortable taking 135 punches before we jump up and fight a dude at 140 who's knocked out 147lbers.
i think you are just being humble
that fight will not be great, matter fact it will be one sided and embarrassing lol
none the less, no reason for lomo to jump up for pacquaio and then possibly have to go back down for another opponent
pacquaio at this point isnt worth the time or the money

he doesn't even no if hes signed to top rank or not lmao
 

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the wild thing is why he agreed to fight pacquiao at welterweight? he had the juice to make it at whatever weight/catchweight he wanted..might actually be a top 5 moment of all time where cherry picking went wrong

forrest fight when could that happen though? forrest had them down years after losing to mayorga twice and getting the shoulder surgery

winky i can see though..but then winky was a hard sell until the mosley and tito victories..at that point oscar was not interested in nikkas giving him a hard time anymore haha

True, the windows for those 2 fights weren't big like that. Winky was out there having trilogies with Bronco McKart :snoop: while calling out Oscar every damn chance he got. That bout just never felt like it was the one to make tho so I understand. Everybody gets on at different times. I don't fault Oscar for not making those fights, but I know some who do. :manny:

Oscar was already looking bad for dragging Pac up in the 1st place. If he would have made the fight at a higher weight, nikkas wouldn't have let him hear the end of it. Biggest cherry picking gone wrong definitely. :russ:
 

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Bruh lemme just level up your boxing knowledge real quick so you don't turn into another history revisionist.

Oscar was originally supposed to fight the winner of Cotto/Margarito, but afterwards that nikka was like :whoa:. Instead he picked on a lightweight and was gonna bring up up to welterweight. Oscar didn't really impress with the Steve Forbes win, but most people thought he was on some bullying shyt targeting Pac. Only Roach and Pac and maybe a small handful of cats knew Pac would light him up, but the rest of the boxing world looked at that as a mismatch, just like how everyone though Chino was gonna kill Morales.

Oscar had trouble making the weight and drained himself doing all type of weird shyt, but even then most felt he'd still win. There was no angle on Pac definitely beating DLH. That's just you projecting your spin on shyt because you don't want to give Pac his full credit.

Pac was definitely the underdog against MAB going into the first fight. nikkas were only giving him a puncher's chance at best. I believe MAB was a 4-1 favorite, plus Pac was moving up in weight for that fight too. Nobody was thinking he'd dominate MAB like that. Leading up to the fight, more news was made about his head surgery and fire that happened in his camp.

and now......The More You Know. :salute:
I got you breh, I wasn’t trying to discredit Pac though, easily an ATG whatever what version of Oscar he beat
 

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Loma vs Pacquiao is a great fight.

Lets us get comfortable taking 135 punches before we jump up and fight a dude at 140 who's knocked out 147lbers.
The same luxuries wouldn’t be afforded to Mikey breh
 

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If you’re still moving you can throw the 1-2 like that once, and even if you don’t connect, you’d be able to feint the right then throw a quick check hook and knock them off balance, or run them into another right.

I love seeing hand turning and follow through like that. If Wlad threw his right like
that he would have KOd AJ.Shane would have KOD Floyd.

@seemorecizzy yoy gta stop calling Floyd the GOAT it’s mad disrespectful to Ali.
all things considered, ali is not a better boxer den floyd mayweather jr
doesn't mean he ali still isn't the goat based off his resume,his story, and his civil rights contribution,
but overall boxing skills (offense, defense, ring generalship, sustained success, adjustments. dominance) nah

the fact you are still bringing up shane mosley landing one punch on him, its proof of how great he is
 

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all things considered, ali is not a better boxer den floyd mayweather jr
doesn't mean he ali still isn't the goat based off his resume,his story, and his civil rights contribution,
but overall boxing skills (offense, defense, ring generalship, sustained success, adjustments. dominance) nah

the fact you are still bringing up shane mosley landing one punch on him, its proof of how great he is
All things considered, he is a better boxer lol, it not even a convo.

I just added that part because what Yuzo is showing is the effects of follow thru and extra hand rotation on a punch. It’s s good example BC Shane turns his hand over way early. Nothing to discredit Floyd.
 

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All things considered, he is a better boxer lol, it not even a convo.

I just added that part because what Yuzo is showing is the effects of follow thru and extra hand rotation on a punch. It’s s good example BC Shane turns his hand over way early. Nothing to discredit Floyd.
its definitely a conversation lol
but ali was amazing so:yeshrug:
 

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so as a pure boxer, floyd mayweather is not close to ali?:heh:
you are better off saying sugar ray robinson. he was the total package
ali had a lot of flaws, he never even threw body shots lol

Dont change your words you said BETTER not close. Im good you can keep your opinion i have no desire to argue it. Ali thre bodyshots against Foreman he wasnt known for his body punches because it was not beneficial to his style.
 
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