Bigblackted4
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Now y’all in here making lies saying Easter ain’t a money fight but the other dudes are.
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Bigblackted4
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Blame Arum when Manny being a bytch out here ducking two nikkas with one pullout
Did Pacquaio ever really agree to the fight and card, or did Bob force it using Mannys name to sell to venues/ESPN, etc. How he just all of a sudden sign up to fight Mattyhshe in Dubai and Bob aint even sign off on it
You make some quality points
But....Arum is also on record already saying he doesn't know how to market Black fighters. Crawford should've got out when he had the chance. Arum trying to make him into his new Uncle Tim Bradley
If you peep the timeline shyts not adding up, remember this fight was gonna be in LV but a hockey team playoff game was interfering, then it went to MSG in New York, then it went back to LV...
I think Bob was promosing the networks/venue this card before it was ever official. Hints the Pac situation. How you gonna have Pac on a card and he aint even returning calls to his trainer.
How you got Pac on the undercard of Crawford who he probably could outsell in every category across the board, and the same dude whose called him out and he dont want to fight.
Bob ALWAYS announces the fights N got tickets N all that available way ahead of time...I think theshyt threw a monkey wrench into errything
Bud ain't selling no ppv vs Horn...if it ain't in Nebraska the tickets don't sell either
TR should throw a bunch of its Mexican fighters on the card...but it seems they more interested in that Loma v Linares
I mean he made Postol a PPV I aint surprised, but I think he only said PPV cause he brought Pac and Bud to ESPN and they were with it...again, he never had Pac on board. He messed over Bud letting Pac dictate this card. When he "pulled out" all that shyt he promised went out the door. I'm not doubting the injury, but as yall know I was trying to get to this fight last year. The Horn mandatory been in place since last year, the entire time I'm like nikka drop the date, they dropped the date but then switched venues twice. How you expect anyone to come see this with all the changes and especially with no tickets available.
Bigblackted4
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Arum is in some bullshyt.Did Pacquaio ever really agree to the fight and card, or did Bob force it using Mannys name to sell to venues/ESPN, etc. How he just all of a sudden sign up to fight Mattyhshe in Dubai and Bob aint even sign off on it
If you peep the timeline shyts not adding up, remember this fight was gonna be in LV but a hockey team playoff game was interfering, then it went to MSG in New York, then it went back to LV...
I think Bob was promosing the networks/venue this card before it was ever official. Hints the Pac situation. How you gonna have Pac on a card and he aint even returning calls to his trainer.
How you got Pac on the undercard of Crawford who he probably could outsell in every category across the board, and the same dude whose called him out and he dont want to fight.
I mean he made Postol a PPV I aint surprised, but I think he only said PPV cause he brought Pac and Bud to ESPN and they were with it...again, he never had Pac on board. He messed over Bud letting Pac dictate this card. When he "pulled out" all that shyt he promised went out the door. I'm not doubting the injury, but as yall know I was trying to get to this fight last year. The Horn mandatory been in place since last year, the entire time I'm like nikka drop the date, they dropped the date but then switched venues twice. How you expect anyone to come see this especially with no tickets available.
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Lipinets fights Kondo:
The Ring: He's trash...bum. This the dude you wanted to see fight Crawford?
Lipinets vs Garcia is announced:
The Ring: Easy win for Mikey. Lipinets...aint that the same dude who struggled with that random Asian? He trash
Lipinets vs Garcia happens:
The Ring: Garcia about to have an easy night. Lipinets is garbage
Lipinets vs Garcia is over:
The Ring: I mean...Lipinets showed me something. He isn't as bad as I thought, I guess I was wrongHe was catching Mikey with some shots and is gonna be good fighter at 140. But that Robert Easter, he trash...he struggled with Fortuna
It's like the Twilight Zone
If the Garcia that fought lipinets like that was Danny we'd have pages N pages N tweets N videos of "exposed" "cherry gone wrong" etc
I'm not too high on Mikey being this Monster world beater...they brought Easter out to TX for a reason...someone higher up wants that fight
You think Arum would ruin his reputation trying to pull the rug under them Vegas folks; Roach thought a fight was agreed to and so did Arum, but we believing Saint Manny out hereDid Pacquaio ever really agree to the fight and card, or did Bob force it using Mannys name to sell to venues/ESPN, etc. How he just all of a sudden sign up to fight Mattyhshe in Dubai and Bob aint even sign off on it
If you peep the timeline shyts not adding up, remember this fight was gonna be in LV but a hockey team playoff game was interfering, then it went to MSG in New York, then it went back to LV.............
I think Bob was promosing the networks/venue this card before it was ever official. Hints the Pac situation. How you gonna have Pac on a card and he aint even returning calls to his trainer.
How you got Pac on the undercard of Crawford who he probably could outsell in every category across the board, and the same dude whose called him out and he dont want to fight.
I mean he made Postol a PPV I aint surprised, but I think he only said PPV cause he brought Pac and Bud to ESPN and they were with it...again, he never had Pac on board. He messed over Bud letting Pac dictate this card. When he "pulled out" all that shyt he promised went out the door. I'm not doubting the injury, but as yall know I was trying to get to this fight last year. The Horn mandatory been in place since last year, the entire time I'm like nikka drop the date, they dropped the date but then switched venues twice. How you expect anyone to come see this with all the changes and especially with no tickets available.
The Vegas excuse was because Manny broke ass has tax issues and cant fight and Vegas, Arum still tried a duel card show(reason for tickets not being available), the boy is being a bytch not wanting no smoke with TC and is outright terrified of Horn....
Lets not act like team Manny wasnt on board until they didnt get Lucas Matthysse, and got Alvarado.....Like Matthysse might not potentially whoop his ass; Like we supposed to believe Manny wants to fight him but not the nikka that boxed his ears of local cable
Arum aint fukk with no bud, TC came into camp 180 pounds and doubted he could've effectively made weight in that time frame.......Manny did TC a favor, but plz believe Arum nor roach wasnt blowing no fukking smoke
And @reservoirdogs, and the rest of yall, you have asked me about Easter vs Garcia earlier and I aint have time.....well I got time now cuz!:
look at what even Mikey Garcia said about fighting Easter breh, then you tell me
“Lipinets presents a size advantage as far as weight, but Easter presents height and reach advantages,” said Garcia, who’s five inches shorter than the 5-feet-11 Easter. “That could make for a very difficult fight. He could use his height and reach advantage over me and make things more complicated. So those are the challenges.”
Kinda sounds like what I said earlier
...but nope, yall acting like Boxers don't actually analyze potential matchups, bc styles make fights. Instead they just just blindly fight whomever
It's out of his own mouth that him vs Easter is a "very difficult fight", but Im just hyping Easter bc he from Ohio....damn what Mikey himself says about a fight vs Easter huh?
But also, Garcia was offered $3.5 million to face Easter from Al Haymon directly....what did he say about that?
“He’s willing to fight me and I’m willing to fight him,” Garcia told BoxingScene.com. “But when the purse was not really exciting, not what we both want, it’s hard to get those fights done. And people forget, everybody wants to get paid, everyone wants to get money. No one likes to take pay cuts.
“Whatever job you’re doing, if the boss comes and tells you, ‘I can only pay you this much because I don’t have it in the budget,’ I’m sure you’re gonna complain about why they’re cutting your money. Nobody likes to take a pay cut. So we also wanna make sure that we’re being taken care of financially, as well as in boxing.”
“I’m not saying he’s not worthy, but it just didn’t make [financial] sense for this fight in January,” Garcia said. “Maybe on another occasion we could actually get that fight [made], but it didn’t make sense for this fight.
“When it came down to the purses, again, if the guy can’t get paid what he’s asking for or generate the money that we need in sales to pay him what he’s asking for, or to get paid what we need to get paid, also, sometimes the budget ain’t gonna work.”
And Easter had responded:
“That’s just a lame excuse to not fight,” Easter said. “I don’t produce enough fans. What does Lipinets – no disrespect to him – but what … come on now. Everybody knows that is not true. I have fans all over. My fan base is big. Like I said, man, it don’t matter if we fought in a room with nobody. It shouldn’t even matter. If the money’s good and the contract’s good, then we should fight. I wouldn’t care about fighting in front of nobody, because I know what I’m gonna do.”
“If I was that much an easy fight, the fight would’ve been made off the offer they gave Mikey,” Easters said. “It would’ve been made. It just didn’t make sense, all these excuses. I don’t make no excuses. I’m coming to fight and they know that.”
“I wanted the fight,” Easter said. “It was serious on my side. I don’t care where, how much, none of that. I wanted the fight. I heard, you know, at first it was I didn’t produce enough fans or the fight didn’t make sense, which that didn’t make sense, and some other excuses the guy came up with. But like I said, I was ready to fight whenever, whatever or how much. It didn’t even matter.”
Mikey Garcia: Money Must be Right to Make Robert Easter Fight
Easter: Mikey Garcia Made 'Lame Excuse' for Not Making Our Fight
After all this proof, quotes from both sides, and Mikey didn't wanna run us our fade
And just for even more damning evidence:
Yall can "tell" me all yall want too.......but like Choc said, if this was Swift Garcia avoiding the guy who's undefeated, IBF Champion, ranked #2 by RING/ESPN in the division AND Al Haymon came to you with $3.5 million dollars to fight him, and he turned it down to face Sadam Ali at 154, and then Liam Williams & Liam Smith afterwards, we wouldn't be having this same energy. Keep it G real
look at what even Mikey Garcia said about fighting Easter breh, then you tell me
“Lipinets presents a size advantage as far as weight, but Easter presents height and reach advantages,” said Garcia, who’s five inches shorter than the 5-feet-11 Easter. “That could make for a very difficult fight. He could use his height and reach advantage over me and make things more complicated. So those are the challenges.”
Kinda sounds like what I said earlier
...but nope, yall acting like Boxers don't actually analyze potential matchups, bc styles make fights. Instead they just just blindly fight whomeverIt's out of his own mouth that him vs Easter is a "very difficult fight", but Im just hyping Easter bc he from Ohio....damn what Mikey himself says about a fight vs Easter huh?
But also, Garcia was offered $3.5 million to face Easter from Al Haymon directly....what did he say about that?
“He’s willing to fight me and I’m willing to fight him,” Garcia told BoxingScene.com. “But when the purse was not really exciting, not what we both want, it’s hard to get those fights done. And people forget, everybody wants to get paid, everyone wants to get money. No one likes to take pay cuts.
“Whatever job you’re doing, if the boss comes and tells you, ‘I can only pay you this much because I don’t have it in the budget,’ I’m sure you’re gonna complain about why they’re cutting your money. Nobody likes to take a pay cut. So we also wanna make sure that we’re being taken care of financially, as well as in boxing.”
“I’m not saying he’s not worthy, but it just didn’t make [financial] sense for this fight in January,” Garcia said. “Maybe on another occasion we could actually get that fight [made], but it didn’t make sense for this fight.
“When it came down to the purses, again, if the guy can’t get paid what he’s asking for or generate the money that we need in sales to pay him what he’s asking for, or to get paid what we need to get paid, also, sometimes the budget ain’t gonna work.”
And Easter had responded:
“That’s just a lame excuse to not fight,” Easter said. “I don’t produce enough fans. What does Lipinets – no disrespect to him – but what … come on now. Everybody knows that is not true. I have fans all over. My fan base is big. Like I said, man, it don’t matter if we fought in a room with nobody. It shouldn’t even matter. If the money’s good and the contract’s good, then we should fight. I wouldn’t care about fighting in front of nobody, because I know what I’m gonna do.”
“If I was that much an easy fight, the fight would’ve been made off the offer they gave Mikey,” Easters said. “It would’ve been made. It just didn’t make sense, all these excuses. I don’t make no excuses. I’m coming to fight and they know that.”
“I wanted the fight,” Easter said. “It was serious on my side. I don’t care where, how much, none of that. I wanted the fight. I heard, you know, at first it was I didn’t produce enough fans or the fight didn’t make sense, which that didn’t make sense, and some other excuses the guy came up with. But like I said, I was ready to fight whenever, whatever or how much. It didn’t even matter.”
Mikey Garcia: Money Must be Right to Make Robert Easter Fight
Easter: Mikey Garcia Made 'Lame Excuse' for Not Making Our Fight
After all this proof, quotes from both sides, and Mikey didn't wanna run us our fade
And just for even more damning evidence:
Yall can "tell" me all yall want too.......but like Choc said, if this was Swift Garcia avoiding the guy who's undefeated, IBF Champion, ranked #2 by RING/ESPN in the division AND Al Haymon came to you with $3.5 million dollars to fight him, and he turned it down to face Sadam Ali at 154, and then Liam Williams & Liam Smith afterwards, we wouldn't be having this same energy. Keep it G real
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Compare t craw to Loma one is clearly better and has potential to be a star. The other is a nikka from wyoming
seemorecizzy
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Danny goes into every fight down by 2 rounds by his haters. They stay on bullshyt with him.
Bud not on Tim level imo. Maybe he can get big fights like Tim. But I don't think he gone run thru a generation of fighters (pause) like tim did
Oh yea breh who you think out beats him rn?