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You can be critical of a dude even if he’s accomplished a lot breh. The criticism is warranted for AB. So is the praise.

Criticism is different from saying he's a "should've, would've, could've" fighter. There is NO way you can say a fighter who won 4 Championships over 4 divisions is a "should've, would've, could've" fighter...especially with not backing up your statements with some type of evidence to this. And I gave him the floor.


It was silent.


@malbaker86 cant back his statement on that up, so it's invalid:forreal:
 

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Smoke already said it best in his post. If you wanna say im hating, that's on you. Dont matter to me :manny:.

He didn't.


Again, Criticism is different from saying he's a "should've, would've, could've" fighter. Explain how he's that type of fighter:
 

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Again, cause you not getting the answers YOU want, then you start calling folks haters. That's cool with me.

You didn't answer breh.


AB is a 4x Champion breh. There is no "should've, would've, could've" with him when he's literally made Boxing history by becoming the youngest person to ever accomplish. And then, if yall took the time to realize that yall are hating him because he's NOT the next Floyd Mayweather....and then yall will see how ridiculous that is:hubie: That's like getting mad at an NBA player, and downplaying his accomplishments, because he's not the next Michael Jordan:yeshrug:


Was AB a dominant amateur? No.
Was AB an Olympian? No.
Was AB a heralded amateur entering the pros? No.
Was AB ever voted "Prospect Of The Year" when he became a Boxer? No.


Then what is this "should've, would've, could've" that you're talking about? Ohhhhhhhhh, the fact he said he was the best and next Mayweather, yall believed him & HBO, and now you're upset because he really isn't?:ohhh:


If AB, as a Boxer who hadn't had a competitive fight since he was 14, has won 4 Championships in as many divisions as a professional, and you're labeling him a "should've, would've, could've"........then what do you think of all these other Boxers who WERE touted to be forces (all voted Prospect Of The Year) and aren't anywhere near being as they were hyped to be and none have a better resume OR accomplishments than AB has done:

Victor Ortiz, Danny Jacobs, Gary Russell Jr, David Price, Felix Verdejo?



:patrice:


You didn't answer.



You have the floor to answer it now if you'd like, if not, then you can continue hating. Your choice:hubie:
 

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This is good card, JRock in danger

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader


By Ryan Burton

Last week super welterweight contender Nathaniel Gallimore was in San Antonio to watch his fellow Journeyman Management teammate Sergey Lipinets face Mikey Garcia in a main event on Showtime. Lipinets came up short in the fight but put on a gritty performance in the unanimous decision loss.

BoxingScene.com has been advised that Gallimore (20-1-1) will return to the ring on April 7th against Julian "J Rock" Williams (24-1-1).

The fight will likely open up a Showtime televised tripleheader that will be headlined by the 154 pound unification bout pitting WBA/IBO champion Erislandy Lara against IBF champion Jarett Hurd.

In the co-feature bout, IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Truax will face James DeGale in a rematch of their December fight that Truax won by majority decision in a major upset. The fight card will take place at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas.

Gallimore was in action 4 times in 2017, stopping all 4 of his opponents. In his last bout, in November of last year, he knocked out veteran Esau Herrera of Mexico City in the opening round of a stay-busy fight at the WinneVegas Casino and Resort in Sloan, Iowa. He dropped Herrera with an overhand right to the head and the referee counted Herrera out at 50 seconds of the first. Gallimore has now won his last seven bouts, all by knockout.

Williams fought twice, defeating Ishe Smith and and Joshua Conley to bounce back from his December, 2016 stoppage loss against Jermall Charlo.

The card will be televised live on Showtime (10 pm ET/7 pm PT) from Hard Rock's The Joint.
 

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This is good card, JRock in danger

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader


By Ryan Burton

Last week super welterweight contender Nathaniel Gallimore was in San Antonio to watch his fellow Journeyman Management teammate Sergey Lipinets face Mikey Garcia in a main event on Showtime. Lipinets came up short in the fight but put on a gritty performance in the unanimous decision loss.

BoxingScene.com has been advised that Gallimore (20-1-1) will return to the ring on April 7th against Julian "J Rock" Williams (24-1-1).

The fight will likely open up a Showtime televised tripleheader that will be headlined by the 154 pound unification bout pitting WBA/IBO champion Erislandy Lara against IBF champion Jarett Hurd.

In the co-feature bout, IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Truax will face James DeGale in a rematch of their December fight that Truax won by majority decision in a major upset. The fight card will take place at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas.

Gallimore was in action 4 times in 2017, stopping all 4 of his opponents. In his last bout, in November of last year, he knocked out veteran Esau Herrera of Mexico City in the opening round of a stay-busy fight at the WinneVegas Casino and Resort in Sloan, Iowa. He dropped Herrera with an overhand right to the head and the referee counted Herrera out at 50 seconds of the first. Gallimore has now won his last seven bouts, all by knockout.

Williams fought twice, defeating Ishe Smith and and Joshua Conley to bounce back from his December, 2016 stoppage loss against Jermall Charlo.

The card will be televised live on Showtime (10 pm ET/7 pm PT) from Hard Rock's The Joint.

j rock is getting ko'ed..him struggling like he did with ishe smith doesnt give me confidence he will win this
 

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This is good card, JRock in danger

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader

Julian Williams To Open Up Lara-Hurd Showtime Tripleheader


By Ryan Burton

Last week super welterweight contender Nathaniel Gallimore was in San Antonio to watch his fellow Journeyman Management teammate Sergey Lipinets face Mikey Garcia in a main event on Showtime. Lipinets came up short in the fight but put on a gritty performance in the unanimous decision loss.

BoxingScene.com has been advised that Gallimore (20-1-1) will return to the ring on April 7th against Julian "J Rock" Williams (24-1-1).

The fight will likely open up a Showtime televised tripleheader that will be headlined by the 154 pound unification bout pitting WBA/IBO champion Erislandy Lara against IBF champion Jarett Hurd.

In the co-feature bout, IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Truax will face James DeGale in a rematch of their December fight that Truax won by majority decision in a major upset. The fight card will take place at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas.

Gallimore was in action 4 times in 2017, stopping all 4 of his opponents. In his last bout, in November of last year, he knocked out veteran Esau Herrera of Mexico City in the opening round of a stay-busy fight at the WinneVegas Casino and Resort in Sloan, Iowa. He dropped Herrera with an overhand right to the head and the referee counted Herrera out at 50 seconds of the first. Gallimore has now won his last seven bouts, all by knockout.

Williams fought twice, defeating Ishe Smith and and Joshua Conley to bounce back from his December, 2016 stoppage loss against Jermall Charlo.

The card will be televised live on Showtime (10 pm ET/7 pm PT) from Hard Rock's The Joint.


The name of their team:dead:


Might as well be The J.O.B. Squad:mjlol:


J Rock should take this rather clearly though.
 

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You didn't answer breh.





You didn't answer.



You have the floor to answer it now if you'd like, if not, then you can continue hating. Your choice:hubie:

All that you asked was stuff to fit YOUR agenda as usual.

When i referred to him as a woulda coulda shoulda if, im referring to thats all (not all, that's an exaggeration) i hear following his losses or a lead up to his next fight following his losses about what he shoulda have done and how he's changed and whoopty whoop. nikka just basically pointed the finger for his losses at his trainer first and foremost in the interview you posted.

It was a good interview tho and like i said, we gonna see if this trainer switch up leads to him getting one of those career defining wins like the his loss to Maidana was Madiana's biggest career. Changed Madiana's trajectory
 

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All that you asked was stuff to fit YOUR agenda as usual.

When i referred to him as a woulda coulda shoulda if, im referring to thats all (not all, that's an exaggeration) i hear following his losses or a lead up to his next fight following his losses about what he shoulda have done and how he's changed and whoopty whoop. nikka just basically pointed the finger for his losses at his trainer first and foremost in the interview you posted.

It was a good interview tho and like i said, we gonna see if this trainer switch up leads to him getting one of those career defining wins like the his loss to Maidana was Madiana's biggest career. Changed Madiana's trajectory


Yall love to deflect from direct questions and attempt to make things personal shots instead of staying on topic:dead:


The questions asked aren't an "agenda" question....it's a question that should be answered when someone says something that's not clarified (what the heck is a "should've, would've, could've about someone who won 4 divisional championships?) and also to address where you seen guys who were marketed as NEXT and fell short (what do you think of Ortiz, Jacobs, GRJ, David Price, and Felix Verdejo?). If anything, the person who refuses to answer a simple question posed to them about their own opinion is the one with an agenda:mjpls:



You answered 1 question...not the 2nd one. However, we don't need to go further on this, you'll be back touting someone who's really failed to meet the hype as a Boxer within the next 2 weeks and not even notice it. Im good:manny:
 
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Take it to the chat brehs!

Nah...I need space to type what I need to say and this is about Boxing.


Nobody should be scared to speak up and back up their Boxing opinions they give, when asked about it, if they don't have an agenda imo.:manny:

Shouldn't have to be like pulling teeth to get an answer:hubie:
 

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Yall love to deflect from direct questions and attempt to make things personal instead of staying on topic:dead:


The questions asked aren't an "agenda" question....it's a question that should be answered when someone says something that's not clarified (what the heck is a "should've, would've, could've about someone who won 4 divisional championships?) and also to address where you seen guys who were marketed as NEXT and fell short (what do you think of Ortiz, Jacobs, GRJ, David Price, and Felix Verdejo?). If anything, the person who refuses to answer a simple question posed to them about their own opinion is the one with an agenda:mjpls:



You answered 1 question...not the 2nd one. However, we don't need to go further on this, you'll be back touting someone who's really failed to meet the hype as a Boxer within the next 2 weeks and not even notice it. Im good:manny:

Who have i touted that has failed to meet the hype :mjpls:. I don't run around stanning these dudes on some serious shyt

Lol and all them other fighter you asking about, what they have to do about AB? And to answer it about them, i dont think anything about em. They dont run around pointing fingers after their losses.

Talking about staying on topic yet throwing in other fighters to try and prop him up. If that's what you wanna do, go for it :manny:.

And i already explained what i meant by woulda coulda etc. You assuming i was referring to what he has or hasn't accomplished when that wasnt even the case now was it :jbhmm:
 
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