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I'm the opposite. I rooted for dude and was ok with the Floyd pt 2 behavior. I saw him beat the guys at 135 lbs (especially DeMarco) and said ok...this could be something special. His hair routine and other shyt I chuckled at.

Then he struggled with Paulie and I thought maybe he just underestimated dude but it was concerning....but when Maidana whooped on him and he did his antics and shyt and showed his true colors and it showed his peak of talent I was like come on....Marcos is no walk in the park but dude just laid an egg.

Then Porter and Garcia was it.

Dude is literally Lucian Bute part 2. Looks like god against overmatched dudes but against top notch (or even "B") like ass. And at least Bute keeps his mouth shut.

Yes his fans on this board give him a pass cause he's black. GGG caught 10x as much shyt on this board with 10x the accomplishments.

Can you imagine the reaction on this board if he would have gotten worked by Jacobs and Canelo and only beat the Dominic Wade's of the world and still ran his mouth like Broner does? That's what his fans treat his wins a against Gavin Reese, Elloy Perez, Theophane and Taylor like. It's like GGG beating Wade, Monroe Jr., Praska.


Yet one dude gets called Little G and the other will be a 4x champ :mjpls:

I mean shyt Kovalev is a POS but as a boxer his accomplishments shyt on Broner's but you wouldn't know that being on here.


So you went all the way from talking Broner vs Jessie Vargas to now bringing up Broner in comparision to GGG and KKKovalev?:dahell:


Why you so mad bro?:dwillhuh:
 

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His initials are AB but they really should be CD since that's the only level fighter he's able to beat

But yet, the 2 opponents they both faced....Broner beat them easier than Vargas did.:dwillhuh:

And Broner has a better resume than Jessie Vargas as well...so if Broner only beats C/D level opps, what level has Vargas shown you he can beat when he needed a controversial decision to beat one of those C/D level opponents?:ld:

Then you bring up power...Vargas has KOd 1 fighter in the last 7 years. :martin:

You really jumping out the window with this:snoop:
 

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Wilder's Manager: We Don't Need 50-50 Split to Make Joshua Fight

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – Deontay Wilder’s manager claims his highly anticipated heavyweight title fight against Anthony Joshua won’t be as complicated to make as those that follow boxing have been led to believe.

Shelly Finkel, who has worked with Wilder throughout his career, told Yahoo! Sports’ Chris Mannix during a podcast made available Monday that Wilder won’t demand a 50-50 purse split to get a much-discussed shot at Joshua.
Eddie Hearn, Joshua’s promoter, has repeatedly stated that Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs), a superstar that fills soccer stadiums in the United Kingdom, deserves more money for their heavyweight title unification fight than Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs), the WBC champion from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

“The fact of the matter is I’m not negotiating on the 50-50 [premise],” Finkel told Mannix. “If the deal is right, and it’s not exactly 50-50, we’ll take it. That is not an issue. It is a monetary thing. I don’t pay for rent by percentages. I pay for rent by what the fighter gets. And that’s what we’re looking for.”

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Finkel also acknowledged Joshua’s star power.

The 28-year-old knockout artist from Watford, England, reportedly will earn an $18 million guarantee for his title unification fight against New Zealand’s Joseph Parker (24-0, 18 KOs), the WBO champion, on March 31. The Joshua-Parker bout also is expected to draw a capacity crowd in excess of 78,000 to Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales.

Wilder’s reported guarantee for his 10th-round knockout of Luis Ortiz was $2.1 million. A crowd of 14,069 attended the card headlined by Wilder’s title defense against Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs, 2 NC) on Saturday night at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

“I believe that Joshua is a credit to the sport,” Finkel said. “He is the perfect storm. He won the gold medal at the Olympics in London [in 2012], being a London fighter, and built his championship there. And you’ve gotta give him all the credit in the world. All we want is who we believe is the first or second-best heavyweight in the world to get in the ring with Joshua to prove who’s the best. And we’re willing to do [a contract with] a rematch [clause]. So if he believes he’s the best, there should be no issue.”

A showdown between Joshua, who owns the IBF, IBO and WBA titles, and Wilder isn’t expected to happen next, assuming the heavily favored Joshua beats Parker later this month. If it does take place, Joshua and Wilder are expected to earn eight-figure purses.

According to Finkel, there have been no discussions between representatives for Wilder and Joshua since November 29. That was the day Finkel met with Barry Hearn, Eddie Hearn’s father and the founder of Matchroom Boxing, which promotes Joshua.

“What I said was that on November 29th, 2017, I met with Barry Hearn, which is Eddie’s father,” Finkel said, referring to a story he told toward the end of Wilder’s post-fight press conference Saturday night. “And he said that he believed he could bring more people to Vegas, at a higher ticket price, that we would make more money than if we fought in the UK. I said to him, ‘We’re open to fight either place. If you’re ready, we could make a deal.’ He also asked us if we would fight on February 3rd against Dillian Whyte. I said, ‘Sure, if we could make Joshua.’

“I got a letter later that day and it was from Eddie. He says, ‘Hi Shelly. Glad you had a good chin wag with the old man.’ I laugh a little because this is language I never could’ve made up. ‘I will get the respective P&L, profits-losses, to you this week for discussion. All the best, Eddie.’ That was on November 29th. I have not heard from him since. Then he goes out [and says] that we were asking for this and we were asking for that. We haven’t asked for anything. When they make these ridiculous statements, I’ll counter just to save face. We’re ready to fight him. We’re ready to do it whenever.”






Make the fight happen Hearn/Joshua:birdman:



Like I told @Mr. Leonidas, there's no one that Joshua can face that will make him more money than a fight vs Deontay Wilder:yeshrug:


Joshua is already eclipsing his Klitschcko payday vs Joseph Parker ($13 mill vs Klits....$18 mill vs Parker), so it's guaranteed that vs Wilder it will be even higher:manny:
 

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“I think Adrien should’ve won that fight,” Lipinets told BoxingScene.com through a translator. “He would’ve won if he just developed a plan to walk Mikey down, throw more punches and, as a naturally bigger guy, show his resolve in the ring. But Adrien, for some reason, just didn’t do anything.”

Broner’s biggest problem that night – and in other fights – was that the four-division champion from Cincinnati didn’t throw enough punches, particularly early in that 12-rounder.

“That was a very inactive Adrien Broner who wouldn’t get off,” Lipinets said. “And when he did get off, it showed."


Lipinets: Broner Should've Beaten Garcia, But Wasn't at His Best


I agree:obama:
 

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Wilder's Manager: We Don't Need 50-50 Split to Make Joshua Fight

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – Deontay Wilder’s manager claims his highly anticipated heavyweight title fight against Anthony Joshua won’t be as complicated to make as those that follow boxing have been led to believe.

Shelly Finkel, who has worked with Wilder throughout his career, told Yahoo! Sports’ Chris Mannix during a podcast made available Monday that Wilder won’t demand a 50-50 purse split to get a much-discussed shot at Joshua.
Eddie Hearn, Joshua’s promoter, has repeatedly stated that Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs), a superstar that fills soccer stadiums in the United Kingdom, deserves more money for their heavyweight title unification fight than Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs), the WBC champion from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

“The fact of the matter is I’m not negotiating on the 50-50 [premise],” Finkel told Mannix. “If the deal is right, and it’s not exactly 50-50, we’ll take it. That is not an issue. It is a monetary thing. I don’t pay for rent by percentages. I pay for rent by what the fighter gets. And that’s what we’re looking for.”

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Finkel also acknowledged Joshua’s star power.

The 28-year-old knockout artist from Watford, England, reportedly will earn an $18 million guarantee for his title unification fight against New Zealand’s Joseph Parker (24-0, 18 KOs), the WBO champion, on March 31. The Joshua-Parker bout also is expected to draw a capacity crowd in excess of 78,000 to Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales.

Wilder’s reported guarantee for his 10th-round knockout of Luis Ortiz was $2.1 million. A crowd of 14,069 attended the card headlined by Wilder’s title defense against Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs, 2 NC) on Saturday night at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

“I believe that Joshua is a credit to the sport,” Finkel said. “He is the perfect storm. He won the gold medal at the Olympics in London [in 2012], being a London fighter, and built his championship there. And you’ve gotta give him all the credit in the world. All we want is who we believe is the first or second-best heavyweight in the world to get in the ring with Joshua to prove who’s the best. And we’re willing to do [a contract with] a rematch [clause]. So if he believes he’s the best, there should be no issue.”

A showdown between Joshua, who owns the IBF, IBO and WBA titles, and Wilder isn’t expected to happen next, assuming the heavily favored Joshua beats Parker later this month. If it does take place, Joshua and Wilder are expected to earn eight-figure purses.

According to Finkel, there have been no discussions between representatives for Wilder and Joshua since November 29. That was the day Finkel met with Barry Hearn, Eddie Hearn’s father and the founder of Matchroom Boxing, which promotes Joshua.

“What I said was that on November 29th, 2017, I met with Barry Hearn, which is Eddie’s father,” Finkel said, referring to a story he told toward the end of Wilder’s post-fight press conference Saturday night. “And he said that he believed he could bring more people to Vegas, at a higher ticket price, that we would make more money than if we fought in the UK. I said to him, ‘We’re open to fight either place. If you’re ready, we could make a deal.’ He also asked us if we would fight on February 3rd against Dillian Whyte. I said, ‘Sure, if we could make Joshua.’

“I got a letter later that day and it was from Eddie. He says, ‘Hi Shelly. Glad you had a good chin wag with the old man.’ I laugh a little because this is language I never could’ve made up. ‘I will get the respective P&L, profits-losses, to you this week for discussion. All the best, Eddie.’ That was on November 29th. I have not heard from him since. Then he goes out [and says] that we were asking for this and we were asking for that. We haven’t asked for anything. When they make these ridiculous statements, I’ll counter just to save face. We’re ready to fight him. We’re ready to do it whenever.”






Make the fight happen Hearn/Joshua:birdman:



Like I told @Mr. Leonidas, there's no one that Joshua can face that will make him more money than a fight vs Deontay Wilder:yeshrug:


Joshua is already eclipsing his Klitschcko payday vs Joseph Parker ($13 mill vs Klits....$18 mill vs Parker), so it's guaranteed that vs Wilder it will be even higher:manny:



Joshuas minimum was $13 mil but he cleared $20 mil son, if we're being specific. :sas2:



$18 mil is his minimum for Parker, he stands to bring in upwards of $35 mil after its all said and done. :sas2:



Wilder made AT MOST, AND IM BEING GENEROUS $5 Mil for his last fight. :francis:




Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah Joshua doesn't really need Wilder right now from a financial standpoint. I get he POSSIBLY may not get his biggest career payday yet but that's relative. Every fight he takes he gets paid more than his last fight, so hes constantly getting career high each time out. Plus, Hes in a waaaay better position with Wilder than Mayweather was with Pacquiao and you know how long that wait was. As long as Wilder becomes realistic with his demands and takes the 10/90% split this fight should and could get made next tbh. But if the bum thinks he can get 20%, Joshua vs Miller is next and Wilder vs Tyrone Spong will surely follow on a PBC dud special near you. :umad:
 

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That version of Paulie blanks Vargas

Broner fought Paulie Malignaggi in 2013...when Malignaggi was on a 5 fight win streak, WBA Champion, and ranked only behind Floyd, Pac, & someone else i cant remember at 147:ufdup:

Broner made Boxing history by jumping 2 weight divisions from, 135 to 147, and beating a Champion in his 1st fight there:abyoumad:


What this have to do with Jessie Vargas though?:dwillhuh:


You moving posts:manny:
 

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Joshuas minimum was $13 mil but he cleared $20 mil son, if we're being specific. :sas2:



$18 mil is his minimum for Parker, he stands to bring in upwards of $35 mil after its all said and done. :sas2:



Wilder made AT MOST, AND IM BEING GENEROUS $5 Mil for his last fight. :francis:




Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah Joshua doesn't really need Wilder right now from a financial standpoint. I get he POSSIBLY may not get his biggest career payday yet but that's relative. Every fight he takes he gets paid more than his last fight, so hes constantly getting career high each time out. Plus, Hes in a waaaay better position with Wilder than Mayweather was with Pacquiao and you know how long that wait was. As long as Wilder becomes realistic with his demands and takes the 10/90% split this fight should and could get made next tbh. But if the bum thinks he can get 20%, Joshua vs Miller is next and Wilder vs Tyrone Spong will surely follow on a PBC dud special near you. :umad:
Joshua is that nikka at hw.
 

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AJ is out here with 20 fights getting the purses that all the PBC brehs, "act" like they getting.

This man set, he don't need nobody :russ: nikkas talkin about legacy and finding out whose the best, AJ earning their career earnings fighting Dominic Breazele :dead:
 

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Joshuas minimum was $13 mil but he cleared $20 mil son, if we're being specific. :sas2:



$18 mil is his minimum for Parker, he stands to bring in upwards of $35 mil after its all said and done. :sas2:



Wilder made AT MOST, AND IM BEING GENEROUS $5 Mil for his last fight. :francis:




Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah Joshua doesn't really need Wilder right now from a financial standpoint. I get he POSSIBLY may not get his biggest career payday yet but that's relative. Every fight he takes he gets paid more than his last fight, so hes constantly getting career high each time out. Plus, Hes in a waaaay better position with Wilder than Mayweather was with Pacquiao and you know how long that wait was. As long as Wilder becomes realistic with his demands and takes the 10/90% split this fight should and could get made next tbh. But if the bum thinks he can get 20%, Joshua vs Miller is next and Wilder vs Tyrone Spong will surely follow on a PBC dud special near you. :umad:


This makes no sense.


Joshua is making more vs Parker than he did vs Klits...............what makes you think he wont make more vs Wilder than he is vs Parker?:dwillhuh:


I literally told you on the phone that Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest payday Joshua can make......we all know that's true:ufdup:



Joshua will make more money facing Wilder than he did vs Parker.....which is more than he made vs Klits. Simple math.:manny:


Yall using money to avoid fights, but when Floyd was all about the money vs Pacquiao, yall wanted to claim he was ducking Pacquiao:sas2:
 

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This makes no sense.


Joshua is making more vs Parker than he did vs Klits...............what makes you think he wont make more vs Wilder than he is vs Parker?:dwillhuh:


I literally told you on the phone that Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest payday Joshua can make......we all know that's true:ufdup:



Joshua will make more money facing Wilder than he did vs Parker.....which is more than he made vs Klits. Simple math.:manny:


Yall using money to avoid fights, but when Floyd was all about the money vs Pacquiao, yall wanted to claim he was ducking Pacquiao:sas2:


This makes perfect sense bro. You just have to keep up. :beli:




Joshua IS making more vs Parker than he did vs Klits. I agree with you. What I said was Joshua keeps getting bigger paychecks everytime he fights. :upsetfavre:


SO every fight he takes, hes gonna get a new career high. :whoo:


So whenever he does fight Wilder, that will be his most recent career high at that moment. But you how it is. Floyd Joy taught us once you beat one guy, they'll find ANOTHER guy for Joshua to molest. Someone ya will say is better than him and will beat him. And then Joshua will get a higher payday for that fight then he did the Wilder fight. :smugbiden:



EVERYONE kept telling Floyd Joy fight Pac! Its the highest payday youll EVER get.



Obviously that wasn't true. :francis:
 

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This makes perfect sense bro. You just have to keep up. :beli:




Joshua IS making more vs Parker than he did vs Klits. I agree with you. What I said was Joshua keeps getting bigger paychecks everytime he fights. :upsetfavre:


SO every fight he takes, hes gonna get a new career high. :whoo:


So whenever he does fight Wilder, that will be his most recent career high at that moment. But you how it is. Floyd Joy taught us once you beat one guy, they'll find ANOTHER guy for Joshua to molest. Someone ya will say is better than him and will beat him. And then Joshua will get a higher payday for that fight then he did the Wilder fight. :smugbiden:



EVERYONE kept telling Floyd Joy fight Pac! Its the highest payday youll EVER get.



Obviously that wasn't true. :francis:

Not to mention he out chea co promoting sellout fights too :wow:
 

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This makes perfect sense bro. You just have to keep up. :beli:




Joshua IS making more vs Parker than he did vs Klits. I agree with you. What I said was Joshua keeps getting bigger paychecks everytime he fights. :upsetfavre:


SO every fight he takes, hes gonna get a new career high. :whoo:


So whenever he does fight Wilder, that will be his most recent career high at that moment. But you how it is. Floyd Joy taught us once you beat one guy, they'll find ANOTHER guy for Joshua to molest. Someone ya will say is better than him and will beat him. And then Joshua will get a higher payday for that fight then he did the Wilder fight. :smugbiden:



EVERYONE kept telling Floyd Joy fight Pac! Its the highest payday youll EVER get.



Obviously that wasn't true
. :francis:



Floyd made more vs Pacquiao than he did vs anyone else breh....he made $180 million vs Pacquiao.



There's no other person that's coming down the pipeline that will make more money than Joshua vs Wilder for Joshua:manny:
 
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