Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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i definitely dont think this is on JC.

That's two battlers in a row that had it locked in verbally but then somethin happened and they backed out. Surf fukkery gotta be incoming
 

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It’s like I said during Summer Madness…these current battlers don’t fear Mook & Lux like that. It wasn’t until Mook’s performance against Reed on the big stage that I finally got why…

…I used to swear Twork, Brizz, Ave, etc. we’re just being haters by acting like “GOATs” can’t do nothin with them…but now I get it. On a big stage, they’d do em filthy off the sheer fact that they are more acclimated to packaging their material and delivering to today’s crowd by current standards.

Like…If THAT Mook we just saw at SM11 battled Brizz on a big stage, it’d be a bloodbath.
Mook and Lux aren’t even in the same ballpark in this comparison. None of these guys you’re talking about, even if they think they could beat Lux, are going into a Lux battle thinking there’s nothing he can do with him and they’ll walk right through it with minimal effort. A lot of battlers legitimately believe that about Mook, but they just know they wouldn’t be in a position to get the battle in the first place. You may hear someone say they don’t think Lux is a god or above everyone but you’re never gonna hear a rapper say they think he is outright wack, even when trying to sell a fight or goad him into a battle. Dudes will flat out say they think Mook is wack.
 

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This is pretty much what happens. I thought he lost clearly to Arsonal, Surf, Goodz, Chilla, Cal, JJDD, Ill Will, Ave but all those are considered wins (besides Surf) or close debatable battles. Geechi usually always has 3 solid rounds, and he usually a few memorable lines, that along with his popularity plus battle rap is subjective, all adds up to him getting "wins" from the consensus that he doesn't have.
Let’s be real here. If you come with three, good consistent rounds and you’re a top tier battler, unless your opponent COMPLETELY leaves Earth, you’re never going to “clearly” lose. As long as you don’t choke your fans are always going to be able to argue you won, or you yourself can and there will be minimum pushback. There are plenty of people who still feel Clips beat both Hollow and Lux, that Hitman beat Surf, Mook beat Verb, etc.
 

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:mjlol: I believe you thought I was hating on him as well

Mook is there to be 3-0 body bagged if he doesn’t make changes. To his credit, he doesn’t put himself in situations that allow it to happen. It should have happened at SM11, but Reed was the perfect opponent, as he’s just as outdated as Mook.

I’ve also said he would have been booed in the building down south if he spit that shyt he did against Verb. He’s fortunate that was a home game. I’m not sure Atlanta would allow him to finish a 30 min round.

Someone is going to do this nygga dirty eventually.
I don’t think Mook ever ends up battling someone who will do him bad, at least in the near future. I could see him battling Arsonal, Cassidy, or Hitman, and I really don’t think any of them would get him out of there, if anything it would just be a bad battle. Brizz would be the one to do it in a comeback battle but I just have a feeling Mook would come out of the woodwork with a random dominant performance based on angle like he did with Lux and Roc. Not sure who else there is for Mook to battle off the top of my head; I guess maybe Hollow, DNA, or Shine.
 

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This is pretty much what happens. I thought he lost clearly to Arsonal, Surf, Goodz, Chilla, Cal, JJDD, Ill Will, Ave but all those are considered wins (besides Surf) or close debatable battles.

People consider that Arsonal joint a debatable or a Geechi win?? :facepalm:, how? Lol

Man, I'm really about to be finished with battle rap in a minute, :laugh:. Arsonal smoked him clearly. John John beat him clear too but not as clear as Arsonal.
 

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i definitely dont think this is on JC.

That's two battlers in a row that had it locked in verbally but then somethin happened and they backed out. Surf fukkery gotta be incoming

It feels like people are trying to finesse Drake. That was definitely the case with Cal, who was trying to get 100K out of this battle (I don't understand why he didn't negotiate that down to 70-75K which is still a finesse move).
And everyone knows JC will battle for a starbucks gift card. So he comes into this without a strong position to negotiate anything because we all know he will battle anyone, anywhere and at anytime. So more than likely when JC is trying to negotiate something.....they are probably like we are not doing this especially with you.
 

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It seems like these guys think that just because it's a Drake event they should be getting double/triple their usual pay, that's not how business works, lol...if anything you should get paid less because this is gonna be the biggest look you've ever had in your life since Drake is controlling it...he probably will be posting it all over his socials and all that.
 

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It seems like these guys think that just because it's a Drake event they should be getting double/triple their usual pay, that's not how business works, lol...if anything you should get paid less because this is gonna be the biggest look you've ever had in your life since Drake is controlling it...he probably will be posting it all over his socials and all that.
They are getting a lot. I heard some of the figures. Drake is paying for it. I think he fukks with them and is paying them good but also within reason. Like he ain’t about to give JC 100k lol
 

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It seems like these guys think that just because it's a Drake event they should be getting double/triple their usual pay, that's not how business works, lol...if anything you should get paid less because this is gonna be the biggest look you've ever had in your life since Drake is controlling it...he probably will be posting it all over his socials and all that.

That aint how business works either

"You get what you negotiate, not what you supposed to get" right????? This applies to JC to right?? Or does this go out the window all of a sudden??
 

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"You get what you negotiate, not what you supposed to get" right????? This applies to JC to right?? Or does this go out the window all of a sudden??

If you usually get 5-7 stacks and now, let's just say, you're wanting 40 stacks because it's Drake...is that even negotiable? :laugh:

It takes two to negotiate, and all we know is JC is good on the battle...we don't know if it even got to a negotiation. They probably just gave him their non-negotiable number, which was something realistic, and he went and posted his response on Twitter.

I want him to do it though, I know he would punish Surf
 

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If you usually get 5-7 stacks and now, let's just say, you're wanting 40 stacks because it's Drake...is that even negotiable? :laugh:

It takes two to negotiate, and all we know is JC is good on the battle...we don't know if it even got to a negotiation. They probably just gave them their number, which was something realistic, and he went and posted his response on Twitter.

I want him to do it though, I know he would punish Surf

How is it not? What does what got paid in the past have to do with it? And Im not even blaming Drake. Just because he has the money mean he has to just throw hundreds of thousands around. But we cant have a sour face because JC is negotiating that. Its the opportunity of a lifetime. Why not? Thats exactly how business works. Closed mouths dont get fed; if you feel there's an opportunity to put yourself in a better position, say something/take action.

Based both of their histories Id say JC is more good for that kind of money than Surf. Sometimes the bigger name isnt always the better investment. And on top of that; that nikka Loso is a fakkit. That DEFINITELY has to play a part..
 

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But we cant have a sour face because JC is negotiating that. Its the opportunity of a lifetime. Why not? Thats exactly how business works. Closed mouths dont get fed; if you feel there's an opportunity to put yourself in a better position, say something/take action.

I'm not faulting him for wanting or asking for a certain number champ...shyt, aim high af...I'm just saying, if you don't get a call back then you know why, lol.

It's kinda like a Superbowl thing...the performers don't get paid, that stage is their payment, having all them eyes on them...the look. A Drake event that he will be promoting can kinda be the equivalent in battle rap. I know Drake loves battle rap though so he aint gonna do them that filthy, lol, he's gonna pay them...but it seems like they're expecting exorbitant shyt...and the look!
 

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I'm not faulting him for wanting or asking for a certain number champ...shyt, aim high af...I'm just saying, if you don't get a call back then you know why, lol.

It's kinda like a Superbowl thing...the performers don't get paid, that stage is their payment, having all them eyes on them...the look. A Drake event that he will be promoting can kinda be the equivalent in battle rap. I know Drake loves battle rap though so he aint gonna do them that filthy, lol, he's gonna pay them...but it seems like they're expecting exorbitant shyt...and the look!
I think it's because the numbers of what people got paid is out there, so if others saw that, they're probably trying negotiate or close to it. You basically got FOX Network and Drake paying for URL battles now, I'd be looking to cash out crazy. The checks these dudes is getting now is crazy. JC got 5 figures for Nunn Nunn on SuperFight. I'd want at least 4 times than for Surf.
 
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