Theo Penn
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Don’t get excited. When it’s all said and done, everyone will say that it was another wack URL event.
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Don’t get excited. When it’s all said and done, everyone will say that it was another wack URL event.
Battlers still gotta show up and perform. On paper and what actually happens are two different things.
Of course. But no one will agree to that, you can only do that when you have leverage. Shine has a history of bad business.
I'm going to assume he's taking an advance again but we will see lol
It's a private event so the battles aren't going to be wack. The stage ruins everything when it comes to these marquee events. There might be less than 10 battlers that consistently use the stage to their benefit. Outside of Hustle & Roc no one on this card is anything special on a stage.
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JuvenileHell
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Good times
ReasonableMatic
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I hear you, but you’re taking the example too literal,
not focusing on the essence of the message.
The message is, Shine can/should get an entertainment lawyer and work out a contract that benefits his interests.
To alter contracts isn’t a rarity in the entertainment business.
To which extent, is something else and depends on your lawyer and leverage.
But it can and IS done by those that understand the business.
And to think Shine has no leverage is naive.
Financial illiteracy is rampant in the Hiphop/R&B space,
that’s why the main counter arguments are:
“but you never/barely looked at what you signed.
You just saw the advance and didn’t understand what it meant”
“but you didn’t have a lawyer look over your contract”
“Yeah, you had a lawyer, but it was the same lawyer as the label you signed with. Your lawyer is gonna side with the label, as it’s a bigger client”
Shine should have an entertainment lawyer and a professional agent/manager representing him.
This will get rid of a lotta business issues for him.
The problem is a lotta Battlers don’t wanna spend money on them.
They look at it as an unnecessary expense, instead of an asset that allows them more time to focus on their craft without the headache. While having more safety from being used, plus providing them the ability to say “this is between my agent and the company” offering their image the protection from being labeled ‘bad business men’ or ‘difficult to work with’
However it plays out, it’s interesting to follow this next move no doubt.
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I don't think I'm being naive in Shine's case, I think I'm being practical. Yes he does need proper representation but how does Shine have leverage? He can't battle on URL or RBE so what would be the purpose of a new league paying him to wait on them?
Cassidy v Hitman was so big that Cassidy was contracted & paid just so he would be unavailable to RBE. He's not battling Freeway and he won't have to give URL any money back. What is the incentive for an new battle rap entity to do that for Shine?
Theo Penn
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“The Culture”
EXACTLY, I totally agree.
This is the elephant in the room, but nikkas just REFUSE to be honest about it and have THAT conversation to grow as a culture.
The same thing with Danny Myers.
Yeah, he battles too much and needs guidance,
but his WORK ETHIC and cultural integrity is admirable.
It’s the “too cool for school” vs “the nerds” conversation all over again.
nikkas refuse to acknowledge that this is the underlying issue.
I promise you, it’s wayyyy easier to build a stable, sustainable, culturally responsible and profitable business model that pulls in investor after investor with 10 DNAs than 10 Tworks.
The DNA’s of Battlerap are simply way better investments.
Not only as individuals, but also to create a productive work-culture within your company with.
nikkas do NOT wanna hear that, because they focus on the drama OUTSIDE of Battlerap and enjoy living their street fantasies vicariously through dysfunctional battlers.
Chess, Qleen, Rex, Twork, Clips, etc. All them nikkas woulda BEEN thrown in the bushes if I had a say in it.
Not because they’re not talented,
but because they’re liabilities in business who don’t take the culture serious.
It should be to nobody’s surprise that DNA has had multiple investors and deals at his disposal throughout his career.
DNA: “I only respect nikkas that do their job.
You come to work late.
You’re worried about drinking coffee, you’re partying in the club late.
The fukk out my FACE, do your fukkin JOB!!”
3LM (and meat riding fans/bloggers) getting eviscerated
