The Official Anabolic Thread

[Doomsday]

What would you say is the percentage of athletes that juice?

Also, in your experience, do you believe at all that it's possible to match a juicer being a natty, if you are diligent in eating the right foods and taking the right (legal) supplements?

 

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What would you say is the percentage of athletes that juice?

Also, in your experience, do you believe at all that it's possible to match a juicer being a natty, if you are diligent in eating the right foods and taking the right (legal) supplements?

I say 60-65% percent of athletes are on PED's.

A so-called Natty who is on top of his diet, sleep, recovery, supplements, and training will never match a juicer even if he's 40% less dedicated then so-called Natty. We are dealing with chemistry.

The Juicer will be Bigger, Stronger, Faster, with Faster Recovery

 

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What are peptides?

A peptide is basically a short chain of amino acids joined together by a bond. The chain usually comprises 50 amino acids or less with amino carboxyl end. Peptides exist naturally in the body and they are also manufactured. You can also get them from the food you eat.

These compounds are often confused with or thought same as proteins. This is obviously because both are made up of amino acids. But this thinking is not exactly correct. The two differ in terms of their specific makeup. Peptides are described as having no more than 50 amino acids, while proteins have more than that number.

These small chains of amino acids can be found in all cells of the human body. They are useful for efficient production of hormones, including growth hormone (GH), which are protein based. Peptides are of different types, including polymers, oligopeptides and neuropeptides.

What Peptides Do Bodybuilders Use?


Observation reveals that peptides have become more and more popular in recent years among bodybuilders and those coveting a great body. This trend, perhaps, is influenced by relative difficulty in getting and using anabolic steroids. But what are these substances and are they really legal alternatives to steroids? What benefits do bodybuilders hope to get from using them? We answer these questions and more, including peptide types, in this

Why are they used by bodybuilders?
Perhaps, the primary reason why peptides are used in bodybuilding has to do with how they improve growth hormone production. It is no longer a secret how HGH helps to improve lean muscle mass. Your body uses peptides to promote increased secretion of HGH. They, therefore, make it easier for interested persons to achieve bigger muscle mass. Their usage may help enhance strength. It is even said that these small amino acid chains could boost testosterone production.

Among the other reasons why bodybuilders use peptides is its ability to help you recover faster. They assist in making oxygen available to the muscle cells in sufficient amount. They also improve user’s level of endurance. These benefits make them popular among athletes generally. Peptides further help to burn body fat, which is another reason they are considered beneficial in bodybuilding.

 

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I say 60-65% percent of athletes are on PED's.

A so-called Natty who is on top of his diet, sleep, recovery, supplements, and training will never match a juicer even if he's 40 less dedicated then so-called Natty. We are dealing with chemistry

That's Facts, there's a lot of disillusionment out here due to marketing and fitness industry fukkery,.... People think the Rock is Natty

Is post cycle therapy a life long thing, I heard many juicers say this, that once you juice, whether or not you want to stay big or not, if you stop you gonna need therapy for life ??

What measures did you take to protect your liver and how often did you get blood work done??

What drug gave you the best yield in strength??

I salute your honesty.

 

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That's Facts, there's a lot of disillusionment out here due to marketing and fitness industry fukkery,.... People think the Rock is Natty

Is post cycle therapy a life long thing, I heard many juicers say this, that once you juice, whether or not you want to stay big or not, if you stop you gonna need therapy for life ??

What measures did you take to protect your liver and how often did you get blood work done??

What drug gave you the best yield in strength??

I salute your honesty.

Post Cycle Thearpy is not a life long thing if you know how to cycle on, cycle off, letting your body rest and stay on Point with your Post Cycle, using Clomid.

If a person who needs Hormone Replacement is a person who was stupid and abused the Anabolics, went on back to back runs all year and never uses Clomid, never did Post Cycle Thearpy after, hell yeah they shut down probably for life.

But then again I trained with this old Power Lifter who took steroids for many years and he never used Clomid after his cycle, he said he just let his body test level rebound on it's on he never had a problem with libido, everybody body works different he's a rare case.

Post Cycle Thearpy is a Must!

I get blood work before I start a cycle

Tren, and Anadrol give me the best strength, they are fukkin monsters in the strength department

 

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Gaspari Nutrition Filed Bankruptcy But Still Must Pay for Selling Steroids
Gaspari Nutrition Filed Bankruptcy But Still Must Pay for Selling Steroids
Gaspari Nutrition filed bankruptcy in 2014 but still must pay a substantial settlement related to selling anabolic steroids and unapproved drugs masquerading as dietary supplements. The now-bankrupt Gaspari Nutrition must pay ThermoLife International a $415,000 cash settlement from the Gaspari Nutrition Bankruptcy Fund.

The United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of New Jersey approved the settlement on November 21, 2017. ThermoLife originally filed the federal lawsuit against Gaspari Nutrition Inc. on May 26, 2011. The lawsuit also named Gaspari President and IFBB pro bodybuilder Rich Gaspari along with product formulators Bruce Kneller and Daniel Pierce.

The lawsuit cited false advertising, unfair competition and tortious interference with ThermoLife’s business. ThermoLife alleged that Gaspari spiked its products with illegal steroids and unapproved drugs, Furthermore, Gaspari misled and deceived consumers into believing the products were legal, safe and natural. In reality, the products contained drugs that shared some of the very same potentially harmful side effects as illegal anabolic steroids.

The ThermoLife lawsuit relied on industry experts and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warning letters that identified Gaspari Nutrition products, such as Novedex XT and Halodrol Liquidgels, as being tainted with potentially harmful drugs. The FDA determined that Halodrol Liquidgels contained ingredients that qualified as synthetic steroids while Novedex XT contained both aromatase inhibiting and steroidal drugs.

Ron Kramer, the Chief Executive Officer and Founder of ThermoLife, celebrated the settlement after his company spent over six years litigating the case.

"It has been a long time coming, but I have always remained confident that when the facts were presented the legal system would hold Gaspari Nutrition responsible for intentionally spiking products with drugs and for its lies to the public about its products,” Kramer said in a statement. “Today's award should serve as a wake-up call to companies that mislead consumers and sell products spiked with drugs thinking that the FDA is too busy to catch them.”

The Gaspari Nutrition settlement is also more bad news for co-owner Jared Wheat. Wheat acquired co-ownership in April 2016 after Gaspari filed corporate bankruptcy in 2014. Gaspari Nutrition once boasted $85 million in annual sales. The company looked successful from the outside but it was really bleeding cash. Wheat thought he was getting a good deal purchasing the bankrupt company but the Gaspari steroid-related settlement only further taints Wheat’s businesses.

This fact was not lost on ThermoLife founder Ron Kramer.

“As we have recently seen, justice can be severe against the wrongdoers,” Kramer noted in the statement. “Gaspari Nutrition's new co-owner, Jared Wheat, was recently indicted by the FDA on 18 felony counts related to dietary supplements and if convicted he can spend decades in prison.”

Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals owner Wheat has been accused of spiking Hi-Tech products with undeclared illegal anabolic steroids. If convicted, Wheat faces going to federal prison for the third time in his life on drug trafficking charges and for the second time involving anabolic steroids.

Wheat was charged with manufacturing and distributing Schedule III controlled substances, selling misbranded drugs, conspiracy, money laundering and fraud in a federal indictment filed on September 28, 2017. The Hi-Tech products accused of being spiked with anabolic steroids were Superdrol, Equibolin, 1-AD, 1-Testosterone and Androdiol. Wheat vehemently denied that any of the five products contained illegal anabolic steroids.

 

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Human Growth Hormone (Somatropin)

Human Growth Hormone (HGH) is not only one of the most beneficial hormones our body produces, but one of the most sought after in exogenous form. In an exogenous form, HGH is identical to the naturally produced hormone, and represents not only one of the most beneficial exogenous hormones but one of the most well-tolerated among men and women. Its high level of toleration applies not only to medicinal use but performance enhancement as well.

Commonly, those in the media or in any popular culture conversation refer to Human Growth Hormone as an anabolic steroid. However, HGH is in no shape or form an anabolic steroid. Yes, it does carry strong anabolic properties, but being anabolic does not make something an anabolic steroid. Food is also highly anabolic, but no one would call chicken or ground beef an anabolic steroid.

The use of Human Growth Hormone was first successful in 1958. At this time, HGH was a pituitary extract; it was directly extracted from the pituitary of human cadavers. In 1985, the U.S. FDA would ban its use. Extracted HGH had been successful in many treatment plans, but it also proved to carry with it strong unsanitary disadvantages. In fact, pituitary HGH was linked to CJD, a degenerative brain disorder that is fatal. However, very few fell prey to CDJ, approximately 1% of all users, but this was enough for the FDA to impose a ban.

With the FDA banning HGH extract, soon after somatrem would be released. This was not a pure HGH match but rather a contaminant free variant of the hormone. Shortly after, Kabi Vitrum of Sweden would bring forth the means of synthesizing pure Human Growth Hormone. This would be a pure synthetic and contaminant form of HGH known as Somatropin. This process was made possible thanks to recombinant DNA technology, and since that time all synthetic HGH, regardless of the brand, is officially known as Somatropin. When it comes to the effectiveness and traits associated with Human Growth Hormone, synthetic or naturally derived there is no difference.



Human Growth Hormone Functions & Traits:
Human Growth Hormone is a protein hormone produced by the anterior pituitary gland. It is produced by all living human beings, and is at its highest levels during childhood. HGH represents one of the most important hormones in the human body as it affects our bones, skeletal muscle and internal organs, as well as plays roles in numerous other areas throughout the body.

Human Growth Hormone also supports the metabolism of carbohydrates, fats and minerals. Through its direct mode of action, it can also stimulate the growth of connective tissue. Beyond connective tissue growth, HGH has been shown to significantly increase the size and number of cells in skeletal muscle. The hormone will also further support triglyceride hydrolysis, which in turn will promote the reduction of adipose tissue or body fat. So effective in its abilities surrounding fat, HGH has been shown to significantly reduce total cholesterol levels. This, among many other things can be very useful to the anabolic steroid user as many steroidstend to support improper cholesterol levels.

In its direct functioning capacity, Human Growth Hormone sends a signal to the cells in the muscle, bone and adipose tissue to promote anabolism (muscle growth) and lipolysis (fat loss). However, it also carries indirect traits in that it increases gluconeogenesis and promotes insulin resistance. In the end, all these traits give us a reduced sensitivity to insulin, increased glucose levels and increases in the rate of lipolysis.

On a structural basis, it is important to note the exact or precise composition of HGH if you are going to purchase a synthetic form. This is important as there are many HGH variants or fragment hormones but they are not Somatropin. True Human Growth Hormone carries 191 amino acid residues making it identical to naturally produced HGH.

 

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Effects of Human Growth Hormone:
The effects of Human Growth Hormone are nothing short of tremendous. Through supplementation of Somatropin, we can see improvements in numerous areas of our physical wellbeing, and in some cases, they can be dramatic. In a therapeutic setting, HGH is most commonly used to treat pituitary dwarfism in children or to combat an HGH deficiency in adults. This could be caused by pituitary cancer or simply be due to a lacking of production that commonly occurs with age. HGH is also used to treat those with HIV or AIDS, and has proven extremely beneficial in numerous muscle wasting conditions. Synthetic HGH has also proven beneficial to burn victims, short bowel syndrome and Prader-Willi syndrome, but its most common purpose of use is as an anti-aging medication. When we look at the effects of HGH, it won’t be too hard to see how it can greatly improve the effects of aging.

In a performance setting, HGH has rapidly become one of the most sought after hormones on the market. It is tremendously anabolic; however, when used alone and at a moderate dose it is not well-known for promoting truly massive growth. For true performance related growth, the individual will normally need to use it in conjunction with anabolic steroids. Anabolic steroids and HGH appear to work in perfect harmony with one another. However, even when used alone Human Growth Hormone will promote recovery far greater than most any exogenous hormone, as well as carry a pronounced positive effect on the metabolism. As it pertains to healing, HGH carries tremendous healing properties that can be beneficial to nearly all areas of the human body.

Human Growth Hormone also shares a correlating role with the potent and powerful anabolic hormone Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1). IGF-1 is highly anabolic, carries tremendous recovery properties and affects nearly every cell in the human body. The use of HGH will result in an increase in IGF-1; in fact, IGF-1 levels will remain elevated far past the elevated HGH levels. It is, however, important to keep in mind that IGF-1 can carry some antagonist effects to HGH, which could make the use of exogenous IGF-1 supplementation ill-advised during HGH use for some individuals.

Human Growth Hormone has in recent years been deemed the fountain of youth, and as we look at the effects of HGH it’s not too hard to see why. Will it prevent aging? Absolutely not, but it can undoubtedly make the aging process far more manageable. In short, there are very few healthy adults who would not benefit from HGH supplementation, and this includes not only in a performance setting but in all walks of life. To give you a direct understanding or appreciation, the effects of Human Growth Hormone can include the following in both men and women:

• Decreased Body Fat
• Enhanced Ability to Maintain Proper Body Fat Levels
• A Tighter Physique
• Enhanced Metabolic Rate
• Enhanced Sense of Wellbeing
• Healthier Skin
• Improved Sleeping Patterns
• Increased Bone Strength
• Increased Energy
• Increased Joint Strength
• Increased Lean Tissue Growth
• Increased Rate of Physical Recovery
• Increased Tendon Strength

 

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Side Effects of Human Growth Hormone:
Overall, Human Growth Hormone is one of the safest hormones any man or woman can administer to their body. This is not a foreign substance, it is a hormone your body is well accustomed to, and more importantly, one it needs. While overall it is a tremendously safe hormone, there are possible side effects of Human Growth Hormone use. The most common side effects of HGH include water retention, specifically around the ankles and wrist, joint pain and headaches. Some may also experience flu like symptoms, but such symptoms normally only exist at the early stages of use and normally subside quickly.

The side effects of HGH can also include carpal tunnel syndrome, which in part is often due to water retention related effects. Such effects are most common among performance level doses of the hormone. Hypothyroidism, a deficiency in thyroid hormone production is also possible, especially with performance level doses. This issue can be remedied by the use of Cytomel (Liothyronine Sodium) or what is commonly referred to as T3. Some may also experience nausea, dizziness, respiratory infection and numbness of the skin. While possible, these side effects of Human Growth Hormone are the least likely with moderate edema, slight joint pain and headaches being the most common.

The side effects of Human Growth Hormone can become very problematic when the hormone is abused. Abuse will refer to extremely high doses; total use can be indefinite and often safe, but the dose must remain reasonable. HGH abuse can lead to enlarged hands, feet and jaw, and more severally to the enlargement of internal organs. The side effects of HGH can also include short-term type-2 diabetes due to the hormone’s ability to increase blood sugar and reduce insulin sensitivity.

The final possible side effect of Human Growth Hormone is an irritated injected area. Small lumps in the skin or an itchy feeling at the injected area are commonplace. You may need to move your injections around to find the most comfortable spot. However, many enjoy injecting their HGH into the same area every time as it is one of the few hormones that have been shown to have spot injection benefits. Injecting repeatedly into the same area has been shown to promote localized lipolysis, which will lead many men to always inject their HGH into the fatty tissue in their stomach.

 

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Human Growth Hormone Reviews:
Human Growth Hormone is one of the most beneficial hormones on earth, and continually proves to be one of the most beneficial in both medical and performance circles. Unfortunately, its full medical potential has yet to be realized due to many physicians and law makers being petrified of anabolic substances. This is a shame when HGH has proven far safer than traditional medicines. Its overall track record of safety and effectiveness is truly amazing. Thankfully, many are beginning to see the full potential, and in the years to come HGH therapy may indeed become far more commonplace just as testosterone therapy has recently and is increasingly becoming more accepted.

As a performance enhancing tool, HGH is one of the more misunderstood items. As we have found you will need a lot to truly produce phenomenal muscle growth, but this doesn’t make a low dose use irrelevant for performance purposes. The healing, metabolic and rejuvenation characteristics that this hormone can provide are remarkable. There is hardly an athlete alive who could not benefit from such traits. However, once again we’re faced with the issue of quality, which is precisely why many have been disappointed with low dose HGH use. Their product was inferior, and as a result, they obtained inferior results. With a high quality Human Growth Hormone product, we can guarantee the results will be amazing if the individual can afford to commit to long-term use. Such an individual will also find the results provided by HGH are long lasting. The changes and benefits provided by this hormone will not disappear once its use is discontinued. This final fact makes the cost of HGH far more worthwhile.

 

[Doomsday]

Have you ever tried Testforce2 DAA? Any experience with D Aspartic Acid in general?

 

[Waterproof]

Have you ever tried Testforce2 DAA? Any experience with D Aspartic Acid in general?

No I haven't, I heard about, you think about giving it run.

No experience with DAA, will give it run in the future

 

[Waterproof]

The ‘Rising Epidemic’ Of Teen Steroid Abuse
01/04/2017 09:07 am ET Updated Jan 05, 2017


The prevalence of anabolic steroid use among teens has attracted mainstream media attention since the mid 1980s, when reports began to surface that high school students were using the drugs. Available over the clandestine black market since the 1960s, anabolic steroids have been linked with various adverse health effects, especially when taken non-medically by adolescents or in very high dosages. News headlines typically inform the public that adolescent steroid use is a rising epidemic, alarming American parents from coast to coast.

Various surveys have attempted to examine non-medical steroid use among adolescents, with lifetime use estimates ranging widely from 4 percent to 12 percent for boys and from 0.5 percent to 2.9 percent for girls. The higher numbers are likely attributed to methodological problems in study design, as reviewed in Interventions for Addiction Vol. 3 (Peter M. Miller ed., Elsevier 2013), in which I coauthored Chapter 84 on performance-enhancing drug use by adolescents and college students.

The gold standard national studies are the Monitoring the Future (MTF) surveys, which are funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and administered by the Inter-university Consortium for Political and Social Research (ICPSR) at the University of Michigan. The ongoing MTF study annually surveys a total of about 50,000 students in the 8th, 10th and 12th grades about the use of a wide variety of drugs. The questionnaires ask for information about anabolic steroid use and steroid availability. Respondents are asked: “Steroids, or anabolic steroids, are sometimes prescribed by doctors to promote healing from certain types of injuries. Some athletes, and others, have used them to try to increase muscle development. On how many occasions (if any) have you taken steroids on your own―that is, without a doctor telling you to take them . . . ?” In 2006 the question text was changed slightly in some questionnaire forms―the phrase “to promote healing from certain types of injuries” was replaced by “to treat certain conditions” (the resulting data didn’t show any effect from this rewording and in 2007 the remaining forms were changed in the same manner).

 

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This month, the latest MTF statistics (2016) on adolescent use of anabolic steroids were released. For grades 8, 10 and 12 combined, the percentage of youths reporting having used steroids at least once in their lives is now 1.3%. That’s down from 1.5% last year. In fact, the percentage has been either 1.5% or 1.4% since 2009, and was 1.6% in 2008. Prior to that, it was never less than 1.8% in the 26-year history of the surveys.

The highest overall rates of non-medical teen steroid usage were during the years 1999-2004: jumping to 2.8% in 1999, hitting 3.0% in 2000 and 2003, peaking at 3.3% in 2001 and 2002, and remaining elevated at 2.5% in 2004 before dropping back down. What accounts for this inflated rate during those years? The answer, I suggest, has nothing to do with the clandestine black market at all. Rather, during those years a subcategory of products called “prohormones” was being openly marketed under the guise of dietary supplements. Widely sold online and in health food stores, the ingredients in these products were steroids or steroidal precursors. The first prohormone product, androstenedione, was brought to market in 1998. It was followed by many other “designer steroids” between 1999 and 2004. While many of these products failed to conform to the criteria necessary for sale as dietary supplements, they were not illegal under the Controlled Substances Act due to the poor craftsmanship of the law at that time. Prohormones were a significant segment of the sports nutrition market until Congress amended the law to explicitly criminalize most of the prohormone products then in the marketplace. The new law, effective in January 2005, added 26 new compounds to the list of anabolic steroids and forced the discontinuation of scores of products.

The prohormone market continued to some extent even after the effective change in the law in 2005, and was ultimately eviscerated by yet another law change in late 2014 targeting “designer steroids.” Whether this even stricter law against prohormone products accounts for the further drop in usage rates today is open to question. What isn’t open to question, based on the most reliable data we have, is that teen steroid use is at an all-time low.

Obviously, any non-medical adolescent steroid use is a problem; so is adolescent use of cigarettes (18.2%) and alcohol (41.9%). But we can view the 1.3% use prevalence for steroids in favorable comparison to usage rates for other drugs: cocaine (2.3%), ecstasy (3.1%) and amphetamines (8.1%). And stepping back for an even broader picture, the most important and positive news is that use of all of these drugs has dropped to the lowest levels in the entire history of the MTF surveys. As the MTF 2016 press release points out, the “overall percentage of teens using any of the illicit drugs other than marijuana has been in a gradual, long-term decline since the last half of the 1990s, when their peak rates reached 13 percent, 18 percent and 21 percent, respectively.”

Good news - particularly surrounding teen drug abuse and, more specifically, non-medical teen steroid use - rarely garners the mainstream headlines it deserves. But the latest MTF survey is a reassuring report for all American parents.

 

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SARMS (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators) have become a topic of significant interest due to their anabolic yet seemingly side effect friendly nature. There are three SARMS that have been developed that are sold pharmaceutically or in what is known as the gray chemical research market. These three SARMS include:

• S4 (Andarine)
• LGD-4033
• MK 2866

The medication GW-501516 is also at times thrown into the SARM category; however, GW-501516 is not a SARM but officially a Peroxisome Proliferator-Activated Receptor Agonist (PPAR).

The six pre-clinical SARMS, what is known about them does lend to significant possibilities. As with all SARMS the six pre-clinical SARMS are designed to attach to the androgen receptors without promoting significant activity that’s generally viewed as negative on the secondary sex organs. They function by altering the gene expression through a binding at the androgen receptors. What this means is the target areas of function for these SARMS is primarily that of muscle and bone and only muscle and bone, which is not the case with anabolic androgenic steroids.

The six pre-clinical SARMS have shown promise in many areas of treatment, which may also be beneficial to the performance enhancing athlete. This will especially hold true if side effects are relatively limited as have been with the existing SARMS already on the market. The positive benefits intended as well as some that have been unintended yet of a positive nature include:

• Anabolism - promotion and growth of lean muscle tissue and mass. This is extremely important for the individual suffering from a muscle wasting disease. It is the muscle wasting that at times can lead to the demise of the patient even before the disease itself.
  
• Increases in strength - again, excellent for those suffering from muscle wasting diseases.
  
• Increased bone density and strength - highly beneficial to the osteoporosis patient. SARMS may prove to be one of if not the most effective osteoporosis treatments available, although official data is still inconclusive.
  
• Fat Loss - medications with strong androgen binding affinity have been shown to promote lipolysis. How significant these six SARMS are in this regard is inconclusive.
  
• Low to No Virilization - this is highly important to women. Many compounds (anabolic androgenicsteroids) while the same benefits of anabolic steroids can apply to women as they do men, there is often the issue of virilization. Virilization refers to the promotion of masculine like traits in women, i.e. body hair growth, a deepening of the vocal chords and clitoral enlargement. SARMS have been shown to NOT promote virilization symptoms in women. Existing data supports that the pre-clinical SARMS should be no different, although again at this stage is not fully conclusive.
  
• Increased Libido (Females) - preliminary data, especially in regards to AC-262,356 has shown the SARM may increase female libido significantly.
  
• Contraceptive (Males) - preliminary data, especially in regards to S-23 has shown the SARM may be an effective male contraceptive.
  
• Endurance & Conditioning - All of the pre-clinical SARMS should have a level of positive effect on muscular endurance as well as overall physical conditioning. The level of effectiveness in such regards is dependent on the SARM in question and data is still inconclusive to quantify the total effects.
  
• Nutrient Efficiency - All of the pre-clinical SARMS should have a positive impact on nutrient efficiency to one degree or another. This refers to the ability of the body to make better use of the nutrients it consumes.
  
• Estrogen and DHT - The pre-clinical SARMS should not aromatize, referring to the promotion of the testosterone to estrogen conversion. However, some increases in serum estrogen levels may be possible depending on the SARM. Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) related side effects (hair loss, acne) are also not possible with these SARMS. There should also be little to no negative affect on the prostate; in fact, data shows potential prostate health improvement.