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Scrolled past a theory on twitter that Joyboy was a mink (a monkey type, which would fit the Sun Wukong legend and connect to Luffy's family name). I'd heard Giant theories, but not a mink theory. It wasn't anything too crazy, but the Minks are close with Wano and Zunesha is connected to Joyboy, so it's a cool idea to play with. The one piece of evidence they gave that was kinda cool is looking at the silhouettes:


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It looks like Joyboy's DF awakening swirl curls behind his back, but the theorist was saying maybe Oda picked a straight-forward silhouette instead of the side profile to hide the fact that Joyboy had a tail. It's inconsequential enough that I'm entertaining it...
 

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  • The chapter begins with more reactions from people about the war Vegapunk talks about. People wonder how that war is going to continue if its participants are no longer alive for 800 years.
  • Imu looks at a painting of a woman who looks a lot like Vivi.
  • In Arabasta, we see more reactions to the poster announcing that Princess Vivi is wanted/missing.
  • Vegapunk says that a portion of the Mother Flame was stolen from him and used as fuel for one of the Ancestral Weapons.
  • Edision and Stussy talk.
  • York is surprised to learn that Stussy knows about the Mother Flame theft. She also realizes where Vegapunk has hidden the Den Den Mushi and calls the Five Elders.
  • Vegapunk says there are many mysteries regarding the void century and there are one group who discovered it all but they didn't act : The Pirate King and his crew.
  • In Sabaody, we see Shakky's rip-off bar. Rayleigh is drunk and says : "I'm just an old man now and old people liek Vegapunk shouldn't ruin the young fun... right Roger?"
Break next week.

Rayleigh to Vegapunk
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Since crazy theories are what everyone & their Mama is doing across Al Gore's Internet

Imu is Joyboy, MF went Darth Vader and created a new Empire and yadda yadda somehow lost his Fruit. So it'll be Old Joyboy vs New Joyboy live on den-den mushi PPV for only $50,000 berries. :blessed:
 

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Since crazy theories are what everyone & their Mama is doing across Al Gore's Internet

Imu is Joyboy, MF went Darth Vader and created a new Empire and yadda yadda somehow lost his Fruit. So it'll be Old Joyboy vs New Joyboy live on den-den mushi PPV for only $50,000 berries. :blessed:
How do you lose a fruit without death? DFs reincarnate after a users death. Why does Luffy carry Joy Boys will if Joy Boy turned?
 

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How do you lose a fruit without death? DFs reincarnate after a users death. Why does Luffy carry Joy Boys will if Joy Boy turned?
First off, loose off the brain purposefully crazy theory so don't expect some Matt Pat type breakdown :hubie:

As far as losing the DF without dying, I don't know but we've also never heard of stealing a DF, having multiple DF, or bestowing DF on others until it happened and all of that was supposedly impossible until he decided it wasn't.

Additionally we never heard of a DF actively evading anyone but that's what the Nika fruit has evidently done for centuries. Oda even hinted at it having a will of its own, so perhaps it abandoned him in some fashion.

Oda, like any creator, reserves the right to change shyt at a moments notice in order to make things come together as necessary.
 

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First off, loose off the brain purposefully crazy theory so don't expect some Matt Pat type breakdown :hubie:

As far as losing the DF without dying, I don't know but we've also never heard of stealing a DF, having multiple DF, or bestowing DF on others until it happened and all of that was supposedly impossible until he decided it wasn't.

Additionally we never heard of a DF actively evading anyone but that's what the Nika fruit has evidently done for centuries. Oda even hinted at it having a will of its own, so perhaps it abandoned him in some fashion.

Oda, like any creator, reserves the right to change shyt at a moments notice in order to make things come together as necessary.
It wasn’t said rubber fruit evaded anyone for centuries. It evaded the Government for centuries. Two different things. People had the fruit before Luffy and after Joy Boy. It simply just didn’t awaken after Joy Boy until Luffy.

The fruit does have a will of its own, but that’s not special. It’s said Zoan fruits specifically have wills of their own. Which is why you can feed say, a Zoan fruit to Spandam’s sword and it will have a fruit power but only if it’s Zoan. So rubber fruit isn’t special.

Unlike Paramecia and Logia Devil Fruits, Zoans are said to have "a will of their own," even before consumption.[4] When Kaku received his Devil Fruit, he sensed a strange, otherworldly power coming off of it, comparing it to gravity.[5]


 
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Anyways I’ve now officially been reading and watching One Piece 20 years.

At the time, One Piece was decidedly unpopular. I was heavy into Naruto at the time. 2003 was the year of Naruto the way 2002 was the year of Love Hina. I saw some One Piece in Shounen Jump mag at the time and a few friends were fans of it. We would play One Piece Grand Battle and I didn’t know who was who. People HATED OP’s art style because it wasn’t traditional anime with big eyes and was more cartoony and western and silly.

I graduated High School in May 2004 and as a treat the boys and I drove to A-Kon in Dallas. While there I got four things: an Excel Saga full series box set, all of FLCL on dvd which was one of my favorite anime series, Azumanga Daioh box set, and the first volume of One Piece manga. I loved all of them but what captivated me the most was One Piece. I finished the first volume in one sitting and had to have more so I got more volumes. I wanted to check out the anime and back then the only real anime option was Kaizoku fansubs because OP hadn’t been officially licensed yet.

On EBay I saw some box sets for OP up until the end of Alabasta arc. At that point the series was in SkyPiea and the manga just finished SkyPiea. These were Chinese knockoff sets with high quality video. The translations were so bad. Hellmeppo was translated into Bellhumayber. Sanji was called Sunkist. Luffy was Roof. I beared with it and still got the story despite these awful translations. I eventually caught up and had to go into the trenches of going on to irc and download fan translations from the Null IRC channel using terms like dir and cd. We were in the trenches back then. :wow:

I tried, tried, tried to get so many folks into OP beyond the small group of people that knew it was cool to no avail. “The art style looks awful.” Then the 4kids dub dropped and made it even worse.

To see OP go from maligned and hated to loved in America is a sight to see but it took a long, long time and a lot of love to get where we are today.

I mentioned Naruto earlier in this post but at the time in the manga it was the Tsunade search arc and for the longest time Naruto was soooooooooo much more boring compared to One Piece. I went from a Naruto diehard to One Piece diehard. Once Water 7 started it was a wrap for me.

I can’t believe its been 20 years.
 
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Since crazy theories are what everyone & their Mama is doing across Al Gore's Internet

Imu is Joyboy, MF went Darth Vader and created a new Empire and yadda yadda somehow lost his Fruit. So it'll be Old Joyboy vs New Joyboy live on den-den mushi PPV for only $50,000 berries. :blessed:

I can get jiggy with this theory :mjgrin:
 

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I feel that especially. It's been a long journey, I've got so many real life memories and milestones attached to when I watched/read some arcs. The feelings that I got when watching major moments with my cousins never go away, even as we drift apart.
What gets me is how One Piece went from a joke in America to most watched show on Netflix in a live action adaptation. I just…wow. :wow:

The new breed has no idea how bad it was for us. One Piece got 4kids dubbed and turn into a joke and that was cancelled. Then the funimation dub after that was cancelled by Cartoo Network. OP for the longest time was relegated to just manga and dust heads. Being an American OP fan for the longest was basically “how much are you willing to suffer for your love?” situation. So now with all this success it really makes an OG OP fan really sit back and appreciate what we got now.

There’s some things I don’t like about the new fandom like the constant power level shyt they throw at OP as if it’s DBZ or people not having patience when back in the day we had to wait for batches of OP manga in the form of Null irc zips. But those are small negatives compared to seeing someone wear a Strawhat Luffy shirt on a random day.
 
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