Essential The Official "All Things One Piece" Thread (The Final Saga Has Started))

[Wargames]

With time he will be able to use Gear 4 consistently much like he is now able to handle Gear 2 and Gear 3 without consequences. Awakening is obviously going to be the real gamebreaker since that shyt had Doflamingo turning his entire surroundings into string. I'm not sure how turning his surroundings into rubber will benefit Luffy in combat more than giving him additional momentum but it's clear he will gain it at some point.

I could see him doing some sort of bouncing attack or maybe have a bunch of fist pop up (like gatling gun) and attack the bad guy

 

[Emoryal]

With time he will be able to use Gear 4 consistently much like he is now able to handle Gear 2 and Gear 3 without consequences. Awakening is obviously going to be the real gamebreaker since that shyt had Doflamingo turning his entire surroundings into string. I'm not sure how turning his surroundings into rubber will benefit Luffy in combat more than giving him additional momentum but it's clear he will gain it at some point.

I doubt Doflamingo and Luffy have the same awakening effect

 

[Cadillac]

Going off that Tankman mode, it seems theres different modes for Gear 4 so Luffy could have more up hi sleeve.

I doubt Doflamingo and Luffy have the same awakening effect

Until proven otherwise by someone else with a different Awakening. its likely they r

Dofla said and him being the first non-Zorn showing awakening they likely has the same awakening. especially considering they both paramecia

Only Zoans have different type of awakening

 

[Emoryal]

Going off that Tankman mode, it seems theres different modes for Gear 4 so Luffy could have more up hi sleeve.

Until proven otherwise by someone else with a different Awakening. its likely they r

Dofla said and him being the first non-Zorn showing awakening they likely has the same awakening. especially considering they both paramecia

Only Zoans have different type of awakening

But it's the other way around. And it makes no sense. Doflamingo could control strings Luffy can't control rubber so making his surroundings rubber would make no sense. All Zoans have the same base power to turn into animals so they all have the same awakening as we've seen at impel down. It genuinely makes no sense for Luffy to have the same as doffy's. AT ALL.

 

[Cadillac]

But it's the other way around. And it makes no sense. Doflamingo could control strings Luffy can't control rubber so making his surroundings rubber would make no sense. All Zoans have the same base power to turn into animals so they all have the same awakening as we've seen at impel down. It genuinely makes no sense for Luffy to have the same as doffy's. AT ALL.

nikka it dont make sense that Dofla can turn buildings into strings, but he can.

Awakening going off what we have is meant to be a realm of new possibilties. And going off what we have shown to us means that it lets DF users bypass whatever limit their powers have. When not in it

In this case Luffys limit of only able to manipulate his rubber body. Will be broke down when he gets awakening. We dont know. But its. Most likely.

 

[Emoryal]

nikka it dont make sense that Dofla can turn buildings into strings, but he can.

Awakening going off what we have is meant to be a realm of new possibilties. And going off what we have shown to us means that it lets DF users bypass whatever limit their powers have. When not in it

In this case Luffys limit of only able to manipulate his rubber body. Will be broke down when he gets awakening. We dont know. But its. Most likely.

Yeah but since his original ability was to control strings he was able to control the things that turned to string. Luffy's power is being a rubber man not controlling rubber which is useless as shyt anyway. And what limits are you talking about? We no nothing about awakening you're assuming a lot that can't be proven and I can ban bet you there is a 99.99999% chance you will be wrong.

 

[Cadillac]

Yeah but since his original ability was to control strings he was able to control the things that turned to string. Luffy's power is being a rubber man not controlling rubber which is useless as shyt anyway. And what limits are you talking about? We no nothing about awakening you're assuming a lot that can't be proven and I can ban bet you there is a 99.99999% chance you will be wrong.

Im talking about The limits Df users have which r like what u pointed out with Luffy he can only control his rubber body.

For Doflas

His limits to just controlling strings and him not able to turn buildings and ground he walks on into strings(otherwise we would have saw this before awakening) is only able to do that via awakening..

What did i say that cant be proven. Only thing that cant be proven that i said is Luffy part and thats just a assumption based of what we seen by another paramecia.

Im not even the only who thinks this tons of others do to. And we have proof in the story to see it likely will happen

 

[Emoryal]

Im talking about The limits Df users have which r like what u pointed out with Luffy he can only control his rubber body.

For Doflas

His limits to just controlling strings and him not able to turn buildings and ground he walks on into strings(otherwise we would have saw this before awakening) is only able to do that via awakening..

What did i say that cant be proven. Only thing that cant be proven that i said is Luffy part and thats just a assumption based of what we seen by another paramecia.

Im not even the only who thinks this tons of others do to. And we have proof in the story to see it likely will happen

Not really you have one paramecia displaying an awakening abity for HIS DEVIL FRUIT. By YOUR LOGIC wouldn't it be almost as likely for Luffy to ALSO turn things to string? And to say he had a limit to hos ablity is pushing it. He made atring clones and indestructible string cages turning things into strings isn't breaking a limit it's a whole new damn power

 

[Cadillac]

Not really you have one paramecia displaying an awakening abity for HIS DEVIL FRUIT. By YOUR LOGIC wouldn't it be almost as likely for Luffy to ALSO turn things to string? And to say he had a limit to hos ablity is pushing it. He made atring clones and indestructible string cages turning things into strings isn't breaking a limit it's a whole new damn power

Jesus

Im not gonna go over this with u you all night. Ur being obtuse

And making objects turn into strings is breaking a limit dummy. Because he is able to control more strings than whatever hes limited from just using the pnes from his hands and body.
The only new power he shown is him converting shyt to strings. Everything else is him using his usal string manipulation

 

[Emoryal]

Yeah but since his original ability was to control strings he was able to control the things that turned to string

Jesus
Everything else is him using his usal string manipulation

not even talking about that other shyt because even tho im right ill let you have it but that was my whole original point so wtf are you even arguing for?

 

[Cadillac]

not even talking about that other shyt because even tho im right ill let you have it but that was my whole original point so wtf are you even arguing for?

But he wouldnt be controlling those strings if he didnt turn them into strings first. Which is my point cause i was replying to your point about how "it dont make sense if Luffy controls/turns things into rubber".

I brought that up to show Awakening gets rid of those barriers that wouldnt make sense as a powerup cause the df user cant do it. But can in the awaken state

In the case i used Dofla-Turning objects to strings.

 

[Emoryal]

But he wouldnt be controlling those strings if he didnt turn them into strings first. Which is my point cause i was replying to your point about how "it dont make sense if Luffy controls/turns things into rubber".

I brought that up to show Awakening gets rid of those barriers that wouldnt make sense as a powerup cause the df user cant do it. But can in the awaken state

In the case i used Dofla-Turning objects to strings.

You see first you basically said all Paramecia gain the same abilities now you're saying they "break down their limits" which basically just means you're saying Luffy will gain abilities that mimic Doffy's just because "awakening" even though you yourself said Doffy's original ability is incorporated in his awakened devil fruit. So I'm guessing Blackbeard would turn everything in reality into a shock-wave and manipulate them too? Your theory doesn't hold up to the weight of logic and it's based on "oooh awakening". I don't see how you don't understand that.

 

[Cadillac]

You see first you basically said all Paramecia gain the same abilities now you're saying they "break down their limits" which basically just means you're saying Luffy will gain abilities that mimic Doffy's just because "awakening" even though you yourself said Doffy's original ability is incorporated in his awakened devil fruit. So I'm guessing Blackbeard would turn everything in reality into a shock-wave and manipulate them too? Your theory doesn't hold up to the weight of logic and it's based on "oooh awakening". I don't see how you don't understand that.

it is likely in awakening if he can can control rubber beyond his body.

Only thing that will be a mimic of Dofla is the ability to manipulate. But there still different.

Just like the power to manipulate fire is different than manipulating Water.

As for BB its likely he can. THE black hole fruit he has must be something else out of this world. cause he killed Thatch for it.

And the quake fruit was hyped to destroy the world so again likely.

My "theory" is based on what we seen by the only non-zoan awakening in the story.

Your belief on the subject is based on whatever logic u think is backing you up

 

[Emoryal]

it is likely in awakening if he can can control rubber beyond his body.

Only thing that will be a mimic of Dofla is the ability to manipulate. But there still different.

Just like the power to manipulate fire is different than manipulating Water.

As for BB its likely he can. THE black hole fruit he has must be something else out of this world. cause he killed Thatch for it.

And the quake fruit was hyped to destroy the world so again likely.

My "theory" is based on what we seen by the only non-zoan awakening in the story.

Your belief on the subject is based on whatever logic u think is backing you up

But Luffy CAN'T MANIPULATE SHYT HIS BODY HIS RUBBER
And you really think BB is going to be able to turn things into shockwaves? I'm done bro I'll come back when you're proved wrong and shyt on you

 

[Cadillac]

But Luffy CAN'T MANIPULATE SHYT HIS BODY HIS RUBBER
And you really think BB is going to be able to turn things into shockwaves? I'm done bro I'll come back when you're proved wrong and shyt on you

And Dofla couldnt turn objects into strings

But he did

And please cause im getting bored arguing over this

Edit: why u following me