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@Citi Trends i think we addressed it in another thread, but nikkas is comfortable. That’s why many Ados are against it. Folks look at that racial gap chart, and tell themselves; “it ain’t me or my family, I got mine you need to get yours.”

My question for Pan Africanist Ados and Ados who hold onto mama Africa would be this: we see the fighting that’s going on the continent now. How long are we supposed to wait for them to get their stuff together (and I’m not saying they’re the only f’d up group; hell, we all are too)? Another 400 years? Meanwhile, by 2050, 30 years from now, we’ll be worth absolutely nothing here, and nobody is coming to save us or will save us but ourselves.


I do not think a lot of ADOS are comfortable, I think they are in denial of who they are. Unfortunately without a White man calling some of us the n-word or a lynching us, it is kind of hard to understand. I don't think this is a problem amongst younger ADOS because we don't have anything. But take a 35 year old ADOS with a 60K job with 300K in total debt, but drive a 2018 car and have a 200K house. Even though technically they are working poor, they don't feel it. They don't understand that they got a Masters degree to get a job their White counterpart is doing for the same amount of money without one. They don't understand they are one missed paycheck away from being like their cousin they think ain't shyt.

They tend to think they are doing okay because they don't see what White people or Asian people really have.

It is kind like how feel some ADOS feel about being called poor or do not want to see slave movies or think Jay Z and Beyonce got some real tangible influence in the world.
They do not see the box that they are in. Most White people in the USA do not know any Black people or have Black friends. Most Black people are confined to 12 places in the USA. Integration failed, this diversity project that started in the 90s failed.

You are what you are. A poor person that is a descendant of a slave. There is nothing wrong with that but see - a lot of ADOS people think being Black is wrong. That's why they want to be African. Want to be Pan-African. Want to be a Moor. Want to be a Muslim.

Anything is better than being "regular Black".

I want ADOS people to know, that be on this Pan-African tip. When Africans on the continent, talk about Pan-Africanism they are talking about the continent of Africa being united like the European Union. They are not talking about any of us slave descendants in the Diaspora being in some type of government structure with them. African scholars do not talk about Pan-Africanism as uniting all African people - they trying to fix themselves. Only time we are in an African's political consciousness is when they come over here. The Pan-African project has failed on the continent. It's a massive failure. Because you can't have Pan anything without a benevolent Nationalism, without a benevolent ethnic consciousness. If the nations and tribes in Africa do not respect each other's boundaries and interests, what are you gonna get - chaos, oppression and inequality.

Nationalism is a requirement for advancement as people. We must identify with our country and our ethnicity before anything. ADOS as a whole was never Pan-African in the sense, that we are gonna give up our status in the USA as an indigenous people to melt away into Blackness. That was never the intention. But we let insecurity and aimlessness look outside of ourselves to Africa, to find some type of authentic Blackness as if what makes a people is having a long history of kingdoms and etc. We had White envy, European envy, we objectified Africa and African people. This self-destroying chauvinistic Afrocentrism in ADOS people needs to be removed. It is a Triple Consciousness.

As if coming from oppressors such as kings and queens makes us better? As if the Kings and Queens of every culture did not oppress the common people. As if they did not exploit and kill and steal from others. Why would we want a history like that? There's nothing wrong with our slave heritage, it makes us better than everybody that comes to country. We are the freedom fighter class of people, everybody else got a history of killing, raping and stealing from everyone, we don't. Asians have that history, Europeans have that history, Africans have that history - we don't. We gotta be proud of that. I don't wanna be part of the Old World of kingdoms and subjects. That world is disgusting. I want to be part of the New World, of revolution, sharing and justice.

We have to get over Africa fetishes. Africa is our origin but it ain't our home.
 
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My question for Pan Africanist Ados and Ados who hold onto mama Africa would be this: we see the fighting that’s going on the continent now. How long are we supposed to wait for them to get their stuff together (and I’m not saying they’re the only f’d up group; hell, we all are too)? Another 400 years? Meanwhile, by 2050, 30 years from now, we’ll be worth absolutely nothing here, and nobody is coming to save us or will save us but ourselves.
I don't even think most of them are really pan African, not in any productive sense. It's just feel good idealism for most
 

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I hate when people try to paint the ADOS movement as some xenophobic movement. I for one am not xenophobic. I do want immigrants in the USA, of all races and nationalities.

I want people that hate the rich.

I want people that hate the elite.

I want people that hate the greedy.

I want people that love the poor.

I want people that love righteousness.

I want people that love community.

These type of people are my people, my brothers and sisters.

I don't want no aspirational, wanna get rich, wanna go to Harvard, wanna be a CEO types. I don't want no, "I want my child to have American citizenship" types. I don't want no "I wanna be a star" types. I don't want no "I'm just tryna get mine" types. I don't want them. I don't like those type of people no matter where they come from or race they are and I don't identify with them.

I want the type of people that understand young ADOS men and women go to join the military and help fukk their country up because that's the only way out of poverty. I want people that understand, that when they move over here, they are contributing to the destabilization of their country back home with their tax dollars. I want people that can understand that ADOS didn't come here under free will, that we built the country that they living in and that we deserve a certain level of respect and preference. I want people to that understand that we have to end Western and American imperialism. I want people that will come to the USA and learn about how this country works to undermine all that is good in the world and go back home and tell others that the USA is evil and fight against the USA. I want immigrants to come to the USA and see horror. I don't want them to enjoy being in the USA and identify with the American Dream - because it is fake.

Those types of people I want because they help the cause of getting rid of this global unjust system. ADOS movement is just a small movement in a global larger one that is about taking down unjust national systems. We don't need more striving aspirational people that reinforce the system. That reinforce exploitation.
 

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My patience is wearing thin with non-ADOS and even ADOS who are against the movement/reparations or are just unnecessarily negative about the whole thing.

There is this guinea pig like lifestyle that they attribute to us.

We are supposed to just keep running on the same wheel, should be test dummies for all things bad, and should be for everyone’s observation and fun.

No other group has been through what we have and they damn sure haven’t done it without getting reparations. Yet we’re supposed to be on this cycle where we just constantly test our resolve to inflicted poverty.

We are an exceptional and great people, but I don’t want to be the group who has to try and be the first ones to just work hard and “hustle” our way out oppression. Give me what everyone else got.

I refuse for us to be lab rats and end up permanently fukked or dead and thrown away.

fukkers just want us to be justice mule... a permanent underclass..

our people didn't go through all of this shyt for it to end like that..
 

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All that Russian bot :duck:. How some of these leftist pundits have any credibility left is beyond me.

We all knew it wasn’t that big of an impact; even those who made the claims knew it wasn’t big. Just silencing tactics.

I keep telling folks it won’t be the ones you expect that will try to silence you. It’s those that you don’t expect that will be the ones who do it, and will try to silence all those with opposing viewpoints. We see it now with this bot mess.
 

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According to Yvette, we have a co-opting of the ADOS movement by the Pan-Africanists and Black Liberals who do not like that the ADOS movement is so particular, which is why Roland Martin starting using the language. A Black man, Raymond A. Winbush that wrote a book on reparations is part of it. Now they having secret meetings and all types of COINTELPRO like activity. This goes to a university level, all these professors against the movement because it isn't Pan-Africanist enough. Black folks trying to get reparations and we getting sabotaged by other Black folks - damn shame.

I timestamped it. She got screenshots.

Stay alert on the Twitter, I don't be on there but that's where all this bullshyt goes down. I'ma start checking.

 
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I think Hispanic, this guy says that ADOS deserves reparations and that people want to benefit from the USA, but not pay its debts. He also talks about leftists and Bernie Sanders. Long video.

 

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My patience is wearing thin with non-ADOS and even ADOS who are against the movement/reparations or are just unnecessarily negative about the whole thing.

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This doesnt get mentioned enough. We see the ados "fake confused" crowd. But those of us who vehemently oppose this, basically going against their own self-interest - Has me:mindblown:. Funny thing is these people were created and crafted out of a lack of cultural awareness. shyt is embarrassing
 

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I think we should focus more of our energy on HR 1242 because it has a time limit, it’s bi-partisan, it’s signed by the President, and it achieves what “studying Reparations”does with the potential of financial support through grants

Can you post about it? I haven't heard much about it.
 

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Can you post about it? I haven't heard much about it.
This measure has not been amended since it was passed by the House on May 1, 2017. The summary of that version is repeated here.)

400 Years of African-American History Commission Act

(Sec. 3) This bill establishes the 400 Years of African-American History Commission to develop and carry out activities throughout the United States to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the arrival of Africans in the English colonies at Point Comfort, Virginia, in 1619.

The commission must:

  • plan programs to acknowledge the impact that slavery and laws that enforced racial discrimination had on the United States;
  • encourage civic, patriotic, historical, educational, artistic, religious, and economic organizations to organize and participate in anniversary activities;
  • assist states, localities, and nonprofit organizations to further the commemoration; and
  • coordinate for the public scholarly research on the arrival of Africans in the United States and their contributions to this country.
(Sec. 5) The commission may provide: (1) grants to communities and nonprofit organizations for the development of programs; (2) grants to research and scholarly organizations to research, publish, or distribute information relating to the arrival of Africans in the United States; and (3) technical assistance to states, localities, and nonprofit organizations to further the commemoration.

(Sec. 7) The commission must prepare a strategic plan and submit a final report to Congress that contains a summary of its activities, an accounting of its received and expended funds, and its recommendations.

(Sec. 8) The commission shall terminate on July 1, 2020.

(Sec. 9) All expenditures of the commission shall be made solely from donated funds.

All Info - H.R.1242 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): 400 Years of African-American History Commission Act

It’s Law :ufdup:
 

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This measure has not been amended since it was passed by the House on May 1, 2017. The summary of that version is repeated here.)

400 Years of African-American History Commission Act

(Sec. 3) This bill establishes the 400 Years of African-American History Commission to develop and carry out activities throughout the United States to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the arrival of Africans in the English colonies at Point Comfort, Virginia, in 1619.

The commission must:

  • plan programs to acknowledge the impact that slavery and laws that enforced racial discrimination had on the United States;
  • encourage civic, patriotic, historical, educational, artistic, religious, and economic organizations to organize and participate in anniversary activities;
  • assist states, localities, and nonprofit organizations to further the commemoration; and
  • coordinate for the public scholarly research on the arrival of Africans in the United States and their contributions to this country.
(Sec. 5) The commission may provide: (1) grants to communities and nonprofit organizations for the development of programs; (2) grants to research and scholarly organizations to research, publish, or distribute information relating to the arrival of Africans in the United States; and (3) technical assistance to states, localities, and nonprofit organizations to further the commemoration.

(Sec. 7) The commission must prepare a strategic plan and submit a final report to Congress that contains a summary of its activities, an accounting of its received and expended funds, and its recommendations.

(Sec. 8) The commission shall terminate on July 1, 2020.

(Sec. 9) All expenditures of the commission shall be made solely from donated funds.

All Info - H.R.1242 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): 400 Years of African-American History Commission Act

It’s Law :ufdup:

OH!! Yes! I posted about this. I don't even know what's going on with this.


Could This Help With Reparations? The H.R.1242 - 400 Years of AA History Commission Act Passed

We need accountability on what they are doing. And who to contact -- Cause I heard or seen ish!
 
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