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In terms of what reparations could look like, it's interesting to see what the NAs get.

Native American Casino And Tax Rules That May Surprise You

1. Federal Law Regulates Indian Gaming. In California v. Cabazon Band of Mission Indians, the Supreme Court ruled that tribes can conduct gaming on Native American lands unhindered by state regulation in states that allow gaming. A year later, Congress enacted the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988 (IGRA), creating a regulatory framework for gaming on Indian lands. The National Indian Gaming Commission within the Department of the Interior has oversight.

2. Tribes are Tax Exempt. Gaming on Native American lands earned $26.5 billion in 2011. 236 Native American tribes operate 422 facilities across 28 states. Yet Native American tribes and their wholly owned tribal corporations are not subject to federal income taxes on their earnings.

3. The Exemption is Absolute. Some types of tax-exempt organizations are taxed on some types of income. Tribes are exempt from federal income taxes even when conducting commercial activities. They can form corporations to conduct business and their income remains exempt.



4. Individual Native Americans are Taxed. Native Americans are U.S. citizens, and unlike their tribes, individuals are subject to federal income taxes. Even exempt tribal income can be taxed when distributed to individual members of the tribe. One of the more complicated provisions of IGRA permits Native American tribes to make per capita distributions of revenue from gaming activities to tribe members. These per capita distributions are taxed.

5. But Some Payments to Native Americans are Exempt. Some "general welfare" payments to individuals under social benefit programs are not taxed. In general, to be tax-free, payments must be made under a governmental program; be for the promotion of general welfare (i.e., based generally on individual, family or other needs); and not be compensation for services. This General Welfare Exception from income has become increasingly controversial as applied to tribal members and the IRS is being asked to weigh in.

6. State Taxes are Tricky. Absent an express authorization from Congress, states do not have the power to tax Native Americans living on a reservation whose income is derived from reservation sources. However, a state may tax Native Americans on income (including wages from tribal employment) if they reside in the state but outside the reservation.

As with many other tax rules, these rules are becoming more controversial. Expect renewed discussion of these rules and their limits in the future.
 

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More anti-Reparations propaganda from the media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...r8_DcAIc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.8e314b92dde8

Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are wrong. We shouldn’t pay reparations for slavery.

Megan McArdle

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The idea of paying reparations for slavery has been around since the Civil War. It has gone dormant for long periods but has never gone away, because the toxic legacy of slavery never went away. Now we seem to be in a period of resurgence: After percolating first among academics, and then among journalists, it has entered the political arena in a major way, with two Democratic presidential hopefuls, Sens. Kamala D. Harris and Elizabeth Warren, endorsing some form of reparations for America’s original sin.

There are a lot of objections that can be raised to reparations, starting with the price tag, which would run into the trillions. Slavery was a great moral wrong, but its primary victims are now dead and cannot be given recompense. Their descendants still live, of course, but how do you justify taking money to pay them from the descendants of immigrants who arrived long after the 13th Amendment abolished slavery? And how do you identify who exactly is entitled to payment, especially given the later influx of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean?

Yet these objections are addressable — not perfectly, but well enough. The biggest problem is the sociological one: How do we pay reparations and still call ourselves “one nation”?

To see what I mean, consider Victorian nature writer Ernest Thompson Seton, who was presented, upon the occasion of his 21st birthday, with a bill from his father for all the expenses involved in his raising. Most of us feel indebted to our parents — and yet, most of us will still think an itemized bill for that debt is pretty outrageous. Mr. Seton apparently thought so; he supposedly paid the bill and never spoke to his father again.

Anthropologist David Graeber relates this story in his book “Debt: The First 5,000 Years.” He also suggests the reason for our inchoate revulsion. This kind of accounting is appropriate only to certain kinds of market exchanges, the kind we undertake with strangers. Such exchanges are purely transactional, rather than relational; once they are done, you have no further obligation.

Importing market logic into a longer-term, less impersonal relationship makes no sense, and in fact, it tends to sunder those relations. Which is why you don’t try to make up for all the times you punched your little sister by laying a check on the table at Thanksgiving.

Which in turn suggests the reason that reparations can be appropriate between nations, and disastrous within them. Germany can offer Israel money in partial recompense for the wrongs of the Holocaust, because Germany and Israel are two independent entities. For the United States to do the same for the descendants of slaves would be to imply that afterward, we will be going our separate ways, with no special obligations on either side. And indeed, conservatives can sometimes be heard tepidly endorsing reparations in just this sense: a one-time payment, and then nothing more owed — no affirmative action, no “national conversation on race,” nothing.

That is the only conception of reparations that could possibly be politically viable. It would also be utterly toxic, ultimately widening divisions that we’re trying to shrink. And the benefit is likely to be smaller than the heroic price tag suggests; the economic evidence from lotteries suggests that one-time capital transfers do very little to improve the long-term welfare of recipients.

But the United States will still have an interest in that welfare, as it does in the welfare of every U.S. citizen; it will still have a duty to enable identifiably disadvantaged minority groups to enjoy the same opportunities and quality of life as the rest of the country. Writing a sort of psychological quitclaim for those more nebulous, but more enduring, obligations would be disastrous on every level.

To their credit, Harris and Warren seem to recognize the inadequacy of cash transfers as either policy or politics. They’ve endorsed the idea without providing specifics, and what vague indications we do have mostly consist of reframing general policies, like income-based tax credits, or universal child care, as a form of reparation.

And yet, in the end that’s worse. The one thing that can unequivocally be said in favor of reparations is that at least they would constitute a formal apology, the only kind of apology that could even begin to approach the scale of the original wrong. Saying that you’re going to apologize by allowing African Americans to sign up for your universal child-care program, along with everyone else, trivializes one of the most monumental injustices in American history. Along the way, it also erodes the common bond that should entitle African Americans to far more than they have ever gotten, simply because these are Americans, and this is America, and we can do better.
 

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More anti-Reparations propaganda from the media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...r8_DcAIc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.8e314b92dde8

Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are wrong. We shouldn’t pay reparations for slavery.

Megan McArdle

3d8af29c-7fe9-4659-844e-942c2f4d654d.jpg



The idea of paying reparations for slavery has been around since the Civil War. It has gone dormant for long periods but has never gone away, because the toxic legacy of slavery never went away. Now we seem to be in a period of resurgence: After percolating first among academics, and then among journalists, it has entered the political arena in a major way, with two Democratic presidential hopefuls, Sens. Kamala D. Harris and Elizabeth Warren, endorsing some form of reparations for America’s original sin.

There are a lot of objections that can be raised to reparations, starting with the price tag, which would run into the trillions. Slavery was a great moral wrong, but its primary victims are now dead and cannot be given recompense. Their descendants still live, of course, but how do you justify taking money to pay them from the descendants of immigrants who arrived long after the 13th Amendment abolished slavery? And how do you identify who exactly is entitled to payment, especially given the later influx of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean?

Yet these objections are addressable — not perfectly, but well enough. The biggest problem is the sociological one: How do we pay reparations and still call ourselves “one nation”?

To see what I mean, consider Victorian nature writer Ernest Thompson Seton, who was presented, upon the occasion of his 21st birthday, with a bill from his father for all the expenses involved in his raising. Most of us feel indebted to our parents — and yet, most of us will still think an itemized bill for that debt is pretty outrageous. Mr. Seton apparently thought so; he supposedly paid the bill and never spoke to his father again.

Anthropologist David Graeber relates this story in his book “Debt: The First 5,000 Years.” He also suggests the reason for our inchoate revulsion. This kind of accounting is appropriate only to certain kinds of market exchanges, the kind we undertake with strangers. Such exchanges are purely transactional, rather than relational; once they are done, you have no further obligation.

Importing market logic into a longer-term, less impersonal relationship makes no sense, and in fact, it tends to sunder those relations. Which is why you don’t try to make up for all the times you punched your little sister by laying a check on the table at Thanksgiving.

Which in turn suggests the reason that reparations can be appropriate between nations, and disastrous within them. Germany can offer Israel money in partial recompense for the wrongs of the Holocaust, because Germany and Israel are two independent entities. For the United States to do the same for the descendants of slaves would be to imply that afterward, we will be going our separate ways, with no special obligations on either side. And indeed, conservatives can sometimes be heard tepidly endorsing reparations in just this sense: a one-time payment, and then nothing more owed — no affirmative action, no “national conversation on race,” nothing.

That is the only conception of reparations that could possibly be politically viable. It would also be utterly toxic, ultimately widening divisions that we’re trying to shrink. And the benefit is likely to be smaller than the heroic price tag suggests; the economic evidence from lotteries suggests that one-time capital transfers do very little to improve the long-term welfare of recipients.

But the United States will still have an interest in that welfare, as it does in the welfare of every U.S. citizen; it will still have a duty to enable identifiably disadvantaged minority groups to enjoy the same opportunities and quality of life as the rest of the country. Writing a sort of psychological quitclaim for those more nebulous, but more enduring, obligations would be disastrous on every level.

To their credit, Harris and Warren seem to recognize the inadequacy of cash transfers as either policy or politics. They’ve endorsed the idea without providing specifics, and what vague indications we do have mostly consist of reframing general policies, like income-based tax credits, or universal child care, as a form of reparation.

And yet, in the end that’s worse. The one thing that can unequivocally be said in favor of reparations is that at least they would constitute a formal apology, the only kind of apology that could even begin to approach the scale of the original wrong. Saying that you’re going to apologize by allowing African Americans to sign up for your universal child-care program, along with everyone else, trivializes one of the most monumental injustices in American history. Along the way, it also erodes the common bond that should entitle African Americans to far more than they have ever gotten, simply because these are Americans, and this is America, and we can do better.

fukkin Irish bytch take her connor McGregor lookin ass back to JVUK
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Can Tariq make tweets without saying “trick bag” every sec? This is why I get why people say Yvette, Sandy Darity and Tone should discuss this movement as it gets bigger

I can see later this year or next at one of the debates, CNN posting tweets of Tariq talking about “trick bag”
 

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I post on another board other than this one, and the reparations question was brought up. This board is majority white, and while there was a lot of them who said they wouldn’t be down for contributing to reparations, many said they would be.

I agree with Marianne Williamson, in that, we have to give white folks a chance on this and atleast put it in front of everyone.
 

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:mjlol: At that Umar thread in the TLR.

Expect for a pan africanist to be for us embracing our American identities...

If Umar and those who have the Pan Africanist ways of thinking want to be some help; maybe he should talk to those outside of AA community and get them on the “we all black” page first.

We not fixing to be anyone’s crash dummy’s or test subjects anymore. Get everyone on one accord then come to us. We’ve been “we all black” for awhile now, while everyone else was repping their flags or tribe.
 

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My patience is wearing thin with non-ADOS and even ADOS who are against the movement/reparations or are just unnecessarily negative about the whole thing.

There is this guinea pig like lifestyle that they attribute to us.

We are supposed to just keep running on the same wheel, should be test dummies for all things bad, and should be for everyone’s observation and fun.

No other group has been through what we have and they damn sure haven’t done it without getting reparations. Yet we’re supposed to be on this cycle where we just constantly test our resolve to inflicted poverty.

We are an exceptional and great people, but I don’t want to be the group who has to try and be the first ones to just work hard and “hustle” our way out oppression. Give me what everyone else got.

I refuse for us to be lab rats and end up permanently fukked or dead and thrown away.
 

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We not fixing to be anyone’s crash dummy’s or test subjects anymore. Get everyone on one accord then come to us. We’ve been “we all black” for awhile now, while everyone else was repping their flags or tribe.
Damn so you noticed this too, I just had the same thought.

It’s like people just want to see how much shyt we can take, collect their findings and use it to benefit themselves
 

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:mjlol: At that Umar thread in the TLR.

Expect for a pan africanist to be for us embracing our American identities...

If Umar and those who have the Pan Africanist ways of thinking want to be some help; maybe he should talk to those outside of AA community and get them on the “we all black” page first.

We not fixing to be anyone’s crash dummy’s or test subjects anymore. Get everyone on one accord then come to us. We’ve been “we all black” for awhile now, while everyone else was repping their flags or tribe.

I am too. I am starting to be aggressive with my responses. I'm just over it all.
 

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@Citi Trends i think we addressed it in another thread, but nikkas is comfortable. That’s why many Ados are against it. Folks look at that racial gap chart, and tell themselves; “it ain’t me or my family, I got mine you need to get yours.”

My question for Pan Africanist Ados and Ados who hold onto mama Africa would be this: we see the fighting that’s going on the continent now. How long are we supposed to wait for them to get their stuff together (and I’m not saying they’re the only f’d up group; hell, we all are too)? Another 400 years? Meanwhile, by 2050, 30 years from now, we’ll be worth absolutely nothing here, and nobody is coming to save us or will save us but ourselves.
 
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