Essential The Official ADOS Discussion Thread
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saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
A Black Power Media Discussion with Members of ADOS: American Descendants Of Slavery
Jared Ball and his Pan Africanist Panel debates ADOS supporters
Who do you agree with?
TBH I'm tired of the Pan Africans down talking Reparations and pushing their philosophy at the expense of domestic politics along with insulting Blacks who are demanding wealth in America.
Jared Ball and his Pan Africanist Panel debates ADOS supporters
Who do you agree with?
TBH I'm tired of the Pan Africans down talking Reparations and pushing their philosophy at the expense of domestic politics along with insulting Blacks who are demanding wealth in America.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
The next book for the Breaking Brown Book Club
some allies gon' be mad
some allies gon' be mad
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Another good vid. SHe breaks down how Univision was instrumental in creating the modern "Hispanic" identity.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Reparations Talks
link below
Reparations Talks
Date And Time
Sun, March 7, 2021
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM EST
Location
Location
Online Event
Event description
Description
We will be having a discussion with the leading intergenerational economist and reparations academic Dr. William Darity about his new book.
Reparations Talks
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Secure Da Bag
Veteran
The breh Ibrahim Tanner is preaching in the 1st 20 minutes.
But his diction is forcing me to accept my bougie ears.
This is a flaw I have to overcome
xoxodede
Superstar
I can not stand Jared Bell. He is so lost. I will never forget him on the C.O.W.S. -- when he was mad that Gus said a bi-racial man raised by a White "Jew" should NOT be speaking on Black issues -- especially not Black American issues.
He has a lot of beliefs about the Black man, women, family and culture -- based off the absence of his Black dad.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
This guy Kalonji is a clown. Period.
Hoodoo Child
The Urban Legend
I agree with Kamau's point about in order for reparations to be possible, the current political power structure will 1st have to be defeated. You can't force a winning enemy to do a damn thing. However, I do not believe Pan-Africanism can fix this (Too many pieces w/ no instruction manual). Derrick did a good job countering this.
*Oh, and I didn't like how this 'Kalonji' dude kept making it seem like we WANT to "Keep the system alive." If anything, we just using the weapons that was dropped on the battlefield, and left to our disposal. (Politics, Education, Economics, Legislation etc ) Shoutout to Chad, man.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
I didn't see that C.O.W.S. ep. I will check it out.
Ball is good with his economic analysis. I liked his work addressing these myths about "buying power". I hate the way he frames ADOS getting reparations and trying to live as first class citizens in OUR country as somehow supporting imperialism and contributing to global oppression of other "POC's".
Those Pan Africans get on my damn nerves trying to paint us as sellouts for not trying to fight for some fantasy global socialist communist revolution and not trying to link up with every "oppressed group" and the need for "solidarity".
What is their plan for the overthrow of global capitalism???? They are still trying to use the Black Panther Party blueprint from the late 60's and the 70's.
I've re-watched the debate a couple times and I can't help but feel like at times the Pan-Africans were taking little digs at ADOS, especially that Kalonji dude.
It also seems that those Pan-Africans have this thing in mind to where, just because we don't want to include other people in the diaspora in our claim that we're somehow not in support of their freedom and justice which is far from the point.
The Kamau dude said we can walk and chew gum at the same time, but we can't fight for them and fight for us at the same time, that's just too much. Let us get our house right, then we can work on theirs, but honestly it may sound fukked up, but (one example) we can't get the Chinese out of Africa, that is up for the African people to do and we can take their side, but our fight is in America, not Africa.
It also seems that those Pan-Africans have this thing in mind to where, just because we don't want to include other people in the diaspora in our claim that we're somehow not in support of their freedom and justice which is far from the point.
The Kamau dude said we can walk and chew gum at the same time, but we can't fight for them and fight for us at the same time, that's just too much. Let us get our house right, then we can work on theirs, but honestly it may sound fukked up, but (one example) we can't get the Chinese out of Africa, that is up for the African people to do and we can take their side, but our fight is in America, not Africa.
Which is peak goofiness because reparations is one of the most fukk up the system agendas of all time
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Another Pan-Africanists take on the debate
First 5 seconds I had to cut the video off. Yea, no disrespect, but I'm not listening to the opinion of a foreigner who is half way around the world, let alone a non-Native Born Black American. What we do should be the LAST of his worries.
