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The difference between Fangraphs' version of WAR and Baseball Reference's version of WAR is how they account for defense.
That said they're fairly similar.

Using Fangraphs, Mike Trout has a career WAR of 85.7 -- good for 30th all-time among position players.
It's worth noting though, that he's got almost 500 fewer games played than the 29th ranked guy (Roger Connor).

And I'm not saying that you rank baseball players merely by fWAR because the top 30 guys on that list aren't the 30 best players in MLB history. There's no context more it than that.

If Trout had been able to play full seasons since 2021, including this year, he'd probably have another 15-ish WAR, which would have put him roughly Top 20 all time. And he'd have had the opportunity to get into the Top 10 all time...near that Stan Musial level.

As it is now, his WAR moving forward will take a hit because I just don't see him being valuable defensively, even if he can resume his career and be a stud at the plate.

He's definitely going to be a Hall of Famer. You're just always going to wonder what could have been if he'd been healthy.
 
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The difference between Fangraphs' version of WAR and Baseball Reference's version of WAR is how they account for defense.
That said they're fairly similar.

Using Fangraphs, Mike Trout has a career WAR of 85.7 -- good for 30th all-time among position players.
It's worth noting though, that he's got almost 500 fewer games played than the 29th ranked guy (Roger Connor).

And I'm not saying that you rank baseball players merely by fWAR because the top 30 guys on that list aren't the 30 best players in MLB history. There's no context more it than that.

If Trout had been able to play full seasons since 2021, including this year, he'd probably have another 15-ish WAR, which would have put him roughly Top 20 all time. And he'd have had the opportunity to get into the Top 10 all time...near that Stan Musial level.

As it is now, his WAR moving forward will take a hit because I just don't see him being valuable defensively, even if he can resume his career and be a stud at the plate.

He's definitely going to be a Hall of Famer. You're just always going to wonder what could have been if he'd been healthy.
even if he were healthy, the angels aint about nothing. his career would just be stats regardless. lifetime, garbage time stats. :francis:
 

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even if he were healthy, the angels aint about nothing. his career would just be stats regardless. lifetime, garbage time stats. :francis:
Barry Bonds had the exact same career arc as Mike Trout before 2001.

So just like I didn't blame Bonds for his teams being weak, I don't blame Trout for his teams being weak.
 
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Barry Bonds had the exact same career arc as Mike Trout before 2001.

So just like I didn't blame Bonds for his teams being weak, I don't blame Trout for his teams being weak.
Bonds never had the second coming of babe Ruth on his team tho.
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