The Official 2024 College Football Random Thoughts Thread

[daemonova]

4:00 pm	Baylor - Texas Tech	ESPN2
4:00 pm	Cal Poly - Idaho	ESPN+
4:00 pm	Colorado - Arizona	FOX
4:00 pm	Eastern Kentucky - Abilene Christian	ESPN+
4:00 pm	Idaho State - Northern Arizona	ESPN+
4:00 pm	James Madison - Georgia Southern	ESPN+
4:00 pm	Montana State - Portland State	ESPN+
4:00 pm	New Mexico - Utah State	truTV, Max
4:00 pm	Southeast Missouri State - Charleston Southern	ESPN+
4:00 pm	Tennessee Tech - Western Illinois	ESPN+
4:00 pm	USC - Maryland	FS1
4:00 pm	Wyoming - San Jose State	Mountain West Network
4:15 pm	Texas A&M - Mississippi State	SECN
4:30 pm	Lamar - Texas A&M-Commerce	ESPN+
5:00 pm	Marist - San Diego	ESPN+
5:00 pm	McNeese - Incarnate Word	ESPN+
5:00 pm	Stephen F. Austin - SE Louisiana	ESPN+
6:00 pm	South Dakota - Youngstown State	ESPN+
7:00 pm	Arkansas State - Southern Miss	ESPN+
7:00 pm	Ball State - Vanderbilt	ESPN+
7:00 pm	Benedict - Allen University	ESPN+
7:00 pm	LSU - Arkansas	ESPN
7:00 pm	UC Davis - Eastern Washington	ESPN+
7:30 pm	Georgia - Texas	ABC, ESPN+
7:30 pm	Iowa - Michigan State	NBC, Peacock
7:30 pm	Kansas State - West Virginia	FOX
7:30 pm	North Texas - Memphis	ESPNU
7:30 pm	UCF - Iowa State	FS1
7:45 pm	Kentucky - Florida	SECN
8:00 pm	Colorado State - Air Force	CBSSN
8:00 pm	SMU - Stanford	ACCN
8:00 pm	South Dakota State - North Dakota State	ESPN2
9:00 pm	Weber State - Sacramento State	ESPN+
10:00 pm	UNLV - Oregon State	CW
10:30 pm	TCU - Utah	ESPN

 

[dtownreppin214]

At least Norvell went 13-0 last year with a conference championship.

He'll probably beat Billy this year too somehow, I'm telling you!

UF is even more pathetic than FSU

at least FSU has legit money issues and is not getting that ESPN SEC money.

If FSU joined the SEC or BIG they'd spend money on football and be a top 10-15 team every year

UF getting that money and can't even make a bowl game.

Not sure the specifics but I was listening to a podcast over the summer they mentioned how fsu (admin) has a poor reputation around cfb and that’s why sec doesn’t really want them.

But Norvell is cooked. His one off season reminds me of Herman in ‘19.

I’m as much as a FSU fan as your chances to lead the midnight yell in Aggie land

 

[Drake's Tan]

Not sure the specifics but I was listening to a podcast over the summer they mentioned how fsu (admin) has a poor reputation around cfb and that’s why sec doesn’t really want them.

Could be.

I mean they sued the ACC so it seems like they are problematic.

I think a big part of why the SEC doesn't want FSU though is schools like Bama and UGA don't want to see FSU with SEC TV money to help with their financial issues.

UF is a loser school with a loser admin, so them being in the SEC helps prevent a real football program from Florida from getting that SEC money and becoming a monster again.

FSU with SEC money would be dangerous.

 

[dtownreppin214]

Could be.

I mean they sued the ACC so it seems like they are problematic.

I think a big part of why the SEC doesn't want FSU though is schools like Bama and UGA don't want to see FSU with SEC TV money to help with their financial issues.

UF is a loser school with a loser admin, so them being in the SEC helps prevent a real football program from Florida from getting that SEC money and becoming a monster again.

FSU with SEC money would be dangerous.

You think money solves all their problems?

 

[daemonova]

 

[Drake's Tan]

You think money solves all their problems?

Not all of them. It'll solve a lot of them.

Look at Miami. They have boosters and money, a coach who is not great on game day, and is undefeated in the top 10.

If FSU had that type of money they'd be ranked in the top 25 at least.

I know this seems like a hot take right now, but Norvell is a solid coach. Maybe not a great one, and definitely was overrated last two years. But he's being underrated now because FSU is a complete mess. A large part of it is financial.

If they had a steady big money revenue stream from TV for, say 7-10 years, they would be a top program again.

 

[dtownreppin214]

Not all of them. It'll solve a lot of them.

Look at Miami. They have boosters and money, a coach who is not great on game day, and is undefeated in the top 10.

If FSU had that type of money they'd be ranked in the top 25 at least.

I know this seems like a hot take right now, but Norvell is a solid coach. Maybe not a great one, and definitely was overrated last two years. But he's being underrated now because FSU is a complete mess. A large part of it is financial.

If they had a steady big money revenue stream from TV for, say 7-10 years, they would be a top program again.

But money didn’t prevent them from reupping Norvell. Also money didn’t prevent them from having a salty 2025 class. The recruiting class didn’t fall apart until the season went to shyt. I just think FSU/Norvell made a fatal mistake at the QB position.

Also money won’t solve your problems if you don’t know how to manage it.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Not sure the specifics but I was listening to a podcast over the summer they mentioned how fsu (admin) has a poor reputation around cfb and that’s why sec doesn’t really want them.

But Norvell is cooked. His one off season reminds me of Herman in ‘19.

Nah Tom was better than him lmao I can’t even do him like that

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Could be.

I mean they sued the ACC so it seems like they are problematic.

I think a big part of why the SEC doesn't want FSU though is schools like Bama and UGA don't want to see FSU with SEC TV money to help with their financial issues.

UF is a loser school with a loser admin, so them being in the SEC helps prevent a real football program from Florida from getting that SEC money and becoming a monster again.

FSU with SEC money would be dangerous.

are you talking about fsu with this statement?

 

[Drake's Tan]

But money didn’t prevent them from reupping Norvell. Also money didn’t prevent them from having a salty 2025 class. The recruiting class didn’t fall apart until the season went to shyt. I just think FSU/Norvell made a fatal mistake at the QB position.

100% on the QB situation. That killed their season. Some of the cultural issues from being left out of the playoffs and entitlement in the culture I think hurt too. That could be fixed with time and I think Norvell could do it if given a chance.

I thought their portal class this year was okay. Lots of Bama cast offs that weren't that good really. Same with DJ U. Big name but not true quality. If they had more money they could build a better foundation with HS recruiting too, which would help them not have to gamble in the portal every off-season.

Got to remember they were a mess when he got there. Jimbo left it in shambles and Taggart made the situation worse. Sort of like UF with Mullen leaving it in shambles and Napier making things worse. Difference is, FSU went out and got a decent HC in Norvell and he was able to patch things up for a few seasons. If they had more money they could sustain those up seasons more. But since they don't, they will be up and down for the foreseeable future.

If they had more money they could've outbid miami for cam ward

 

[Drake's Tan]

are you talking about fsu with this statement?

Yes. If Miami or FSU was in the SEC they'd be a real problem with SEC prestige and TV money.

UF is a joke program so the SEC is cool with them being in the conference since they will never amount to shyt anyway.

FSU has won a national title in the past 10 years. With better resources they could be a top 25 program, maybe top 15.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

But money didn’t prevent them from reupping Norvell. Also money didn’t prevent them from having a salty 2025 class. The recruiting class didn’t fall apart until the season went to shyt. I just think FSU/Norvell made a fatal mistake at the QB position.

Also money won’t solve your problems if you don’t know how to manage it.

100% and on the o line

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Yes. If Miami or FSU was in the SEC they'd be a real problem with SEC prestige and TV money.

UF is a joke program so the SEC is cool with them being in the conference since they will never amount to shyt anyway.

I don’t really think FSU is a real football program tho tbh they just had an all time great coach they aren’t really much different from Florida imo

 

[Drake's Tan]

I don’t really think FSU is a real football program tho tbh they just had an all time great coach they aren’t really much different from Florida imo

They won a natty with Jimbo fisher as their HC...

 

[Bigwhite2498]

100% on the QB situation. That killed their season. Some of the cultural issues from being left out of the playoffs and entitlement in the culture I think hurt too. That could be fixed with time and I think Norvell could do it if given a chance.

I thought their portal class this year was okay. Lots of Bama cast offs that weren't that good really. Same with DJ U. Big name but not true quality. If they had more money they could build a better foundation with HS recruiting too, which would help them not have to gamble in the portal every off-season.

Got to remember they were a mess when he got there. Jimbo left it in shambles and Taggart made the situation worse. Sort of like UF with Mullen leaving it in shambles and Napier making things worse. Difference is, FSU went out and got a decent HC in Norvell and he was able to patch things up for a few seasons. If they had more money they could sustain those up seasons more. But since they don't, they will be up and down for the foreseeable future.

If they had more money they could've outbid miami for cam ward

Sure but he’s been there since 2019 and he’s worse of than say BV at OU and sark at Texas who came after him in just as bad situations. He has no excuse to be this bad nor have no qb nil or not