The Official 2020 NBA Draft Talk Thread (11/18)

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What are your thoughts on Wiseman??
A good team can get a machine outta him. His success is up to him. He’s another guy with engagement issues and honestly he never really had a chance to work through the weaknesses he had in high school but you can mold him into a modern 5. If Mitchell Robinson can do it, then so can Wiseman. He can be Ayton with defense for sure. Healthy kid who has more in his bag than just post ups and putbacks. The only player who warrants being a lock top 3 pick.
 

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Sources tell B/R the Minnesota Timberwolves are high on Toppin. The question is whether they'd be willing to take him first overall or if they'd only draft the big man out of Dayton in a trade-down scenario.

Teams are buying into Toppin's scoring carrying over based on his explosiveness, inside-out skill level and efficient volume production. And while they acknowledge the concerns about his defense, nobody seems too alarmed or ready to suggest they'll negate or neutralize his projected offensive output.

"Everything he does offensively translates," one scout told Bleacher Report.

"He has great touch with both hands, and his shooting looks like it could be replicated over and over," said one NBA executive. "A stretch 5 than can be a finisher is tough to ignore. He'll never be quick laterally, but he's capable."

While teams may take needs and fit into account more this year (based on the perceived parity among prospects), there is a sense any team could take Toppin—including one he doesn't fit perfectly with like the Charlotte Hornets, Chicago Bulls, Cleveland Cavaliers or Atlanta Hawks—because of the stronger likelihood he receives a best-player-available nod over more divisive prospects.

He still falls under the perceived "safe" category with Tyrese Haliburton, Isaac Okoro, Deni Avdija and Onyeka Okongwu. But teams see more upside tied to Toppin's vertical bounce, three-point shot, post game and passing. The perception is that he offers the most favorable ratio of risk and reward.

Multiple NBA front office members told B/R they feel they can mask Toppin's defensive weaknesses by playing him at center, where he won't guard as much around the perimeter and can still use his athleticism for shot-blocking at the rim.

Toppin's age (22) has also rarely come up as a deterrent. Teams sound persuaded by his offense, which is something the Timberwolves (No. 24 in offensive rating), Hawks (No. 25), Cavaliers (No. 26), Hornets (No. 28) and Bulls (No. 29) could obviously use.


Asking around the league, it seems highly unlikely Toppin will make it to the Detroit Pistons at No. 7.

Though I wouldn't write off the Timberwolves shocking the draft world by taking Toppin No. 1, the Nos. 2-6 range sounds most likely.



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Bulls definitely want LaMelo. Can’t see them trying to move up for anyone else.
Where you hearing this ? I haven’t heard much on what the Bulls want to do in draft other than recent (just this past week) speculation they could move up. Is that report based on them actually having those discussions? I assume so I guess. I haven’t heard anything tying them to Melo tho, other than them potentially wanting to get to the top two picks
 

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Where you hearing this ? I haven’t heard much on what the Bulls want to do in draft other than recent (just this past week) speculation they could move up. Is that report based on them actually having those discussions? I assume so I guess. I haven’t heard anything tying them to Melo tho, other than them potentially wanting to get to the top two picks
I’ve been saying that I think Melo would fall to #4.


If they’re moving up, to me it’s strictly process of elimination.

If the goal is to get Edwards, LaVine is a goner. If the goal is to leapfrog GS for Avdija, ok, but that would be dumb. If they wanted to jump up for Wiseman, not impossible but then I guess that means Carter would be the expendable piece to move up (and sabotage GS and Charlotte). Anyone else would reasonably be there just by standing pat.
 

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I’ve been saying that I think Melo would fall to #4.


If they’re moving up, to me it’s strictly process of elimination.

If the goal is to get Edwards, LaVine is a goner. If the goal is to leapfrog GS for Avdija, ok, but that would be dumb. If they wanted to jump up for Wiseman, not impossible but then I guess that means Carter would be the expendable piece to move up (and sabotage GS and Charlotte). Anyone else would reasonably be there just by standing pat.
Man, I really hope Chicago is dumb enough to throw us Carter for a few spots in the draft... I like Wiseman more than anyone else in this draft. But I'd be more than happy to trade back if we ended up with some additional pieces to go along with Hayes or Okongwu
 
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