The Official 2020 MLB Random Thoughts Thread

[phillycavsfan]

DeGrom just lost the NL Cy Young today. It's between Bauer and Darvish, and I think voters will give it to Yu.

 

[Regular_P]

DeGrom just lost the NL Cy Young today. It's between Bauer and Darvish, and I think voters will give it to Yu.

How do you figure? Bauer has him beat in every category.

 

[HHR]

How do you figure? Bauer has him beat in every category.

Bauer being a loudmouth, disruptive shythead and Yu being pretty beloved and genial COULD be there difference. It shouldn't, but....

 

[phillycavsfan]

Bauer being a loudmouth, disruptive shythead and Yu being pretty beloved and genial COULD be there difference. It shouldn't, but....

Also, the Cubs won the division and the Reds may only sneak in. I think Darvish still has a higher WAR too.

 

[god shamgod]

How do you figure? Bauer has him beat in every category.

That was Yu's 5th victory this year following a cubs loss-allowing just 1 run in 33 combined innings in these starts. To me this could end up being one of the closer Cy Young votes in recent memory after Darvishs big win that the cubs needed. Bauer has the edge with a 1.73 ERA but Darvish has the edge in WAR (3.0 vs 2.5), FIP (2.22 vs 2.86), and xFIP (2.81 vs 3.24). Bauer has also pitched 1 less start then Darvish.

I know front offices don't care about wins and losses as much these days when they evaluate pitchers. But winning games should matter in a Cy Young race. I get that sometimes you have an unlucky .500 pitcher that was far more dominant then his competitors. In this case Bauer and Darvish have very similar stats, but Darvish has been the guy that's driven his team to victories Moreso then Bauer. Quite frankly the cubs don't win the division and maybe don't even make the playoffs with Yu stepping up in a down year for cubs stars. The cubs are 9-3 with a .750 winning percentage in Yus starts, while the Reds are only 6-5 in Bauer's starts. Bauer just hasn't had a meaningful impact on winning games for the Reds, and that should absolutely be factored into voting.

All of this isn't even to mention that Darvish's schedule this year has been easily more grueling then Bauer's. Darvish is consistently asked to pitch against the cubs toughest opponents, and their aces on a number of occasions. Bauer has had 3 starts vs Milwaukee, 1 start vs KC, and 2 starts vs the pirates. Frankly a cupcake schedule. To me regardless of a small difference in ERA Darvish has been the most effective pitcher in the NL this year.

copied from the comments of the athletic

 

[Brozay]

if Garrett Crochet projects as a starter, how did 10 players go ahead of him in the draft, dude is throwing absolute heat out there

anyone outside Chicago seeing this kid throw? hes wild

 

[KingBeez]

if Garrett Crochet projects as a starter, how did 10 players go ahead of him in the draft, dude is throwing absolute heat out there

anyone outside Chicago seeing this kid throw? hes wild

Dude had the second most 100+ MPH pitches in the league (45) only 6 innings, if he wants to become a starter, he has to pace himself before he has to get Tommy John in a few years.

 

[KingBeez]

The Giants have been killing me these past few games cant close out games for nothing

 

[tremonthustler1]

Is there a scenario where the Cardinals would have to make up those games against Detroit?

EDIT: nope. Won’t matter.

 

[Frump]

if Garrett Crochet projects as a starter, how did 10 players go ahead of him in the draft, dude is throwing absolute heat out there

anyone outside Chicago seeing this kid throw? hes wild

Some teams probably worried that he’s not a starter but more a Andrew Miller type

Ironically he reminds me of Sale.

 

[IGSaint12]

Dude had the second most 100+ MPH pitches in the league (45) only 6 innings, if he wants to become a starter, he has to pace himself before he has to get Tommy John in a few years.

I've heard Tommy John comes more from offspeed pitches than fastballs due to the ligaments being used.

 

[WhatsGoodTy]

if Garrett Crochet projects as a starter, how did 10 players go ahead of him in the draft, dude is throwing absolute heat out there

anyone outside Chicago seeing this kid throw? hes wild

I've seen him on pitching ninja and he threw like 11/12 pitches over 101. How's that control though, and his off speed? I don't know if I would have him start though

 

[god shamgod]

Cubs calling up Marquez

 

[daemonova]

 

[daemonova]