Don’t think any guy in this draft gets there but I’m not as into this draft in general.
Don’t think any guy in this draft gets there but I’m not as into this draft in general.
Doncic has elite skill as a playmaker and his size makes up for whatever concerns may be an issue regarding speed. Even if he's not a point guard, being a better Batum is damned good potential.I’m not changing shyt
Yes, slow guards exist. No, you don’t draft them in the top 3. If he was showing at least one skill at an ELITE level then maybe, but he’s “just” really good on offense and a possible liability on defense. There is no reasonable comp for him to warrant drafting him top 3 in THIS class. Don’t mean he won’t be a contributor, just not a (true) star
Top 3 is relative to whatever draft you're talking about too. Derrick Williams was a no brainer at one point.
Yeah, it feels like a draft with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd options. I'm sure someone will be a franchise piece but it might not be the obvious choices.
GoddamnyamanProf
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Pretty much. I see more Nikola Mirotic than Slovenian Magic Johnson
I don't know if there are many wings in the NBA slower than Doncic. He cant play point in the NBA, he doesn't have the handle or the speed. So he'll have to be a wing, and then his height advantage is gone. He's not an elite shooter either.
It's hilarious listening to all of these white podcast nerds ignoring all of this and making proclamations like Doncic is on a different tier from the rest of the class, he's a transformational player, he can be the best player on a NBA championship team :jagfan: The Euro hype is out of control
Yup I see a few good 2nd options if things break right but I don’t think none of these guys change a franchise outlook right away.
I’m honestly more intrigued with the 19 draft than this one.
He has the handle.
The plan is to play him @ the 2.
A teenager who is 6'8 230 is going to have a physical advantage at his peak playing on the perimeter any way you cut it breh.
Also, switching. Players who play his position won't be the only people guarding him.
He isn't and thats the big question.
A career 33 % 3 pt shooter but it has to be contextualized that most of these are off the dribble from the FIBA line.
I agree but a lot of you are doing complete hyperbole in the other direction and I say this as someone who was deemed the primary hater of Doncic on the Realgm draft board lol.
It's just limiting, he still can't create his own shot, he's a great spot up shooter. His defense is his biggest asset.
Professor K.
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So you’re taking Batum 2.0 at 2 breh? Stop. Doncic won’t ever be as good of a defender as Batum now, much less in his Portland days. And size doesn’t make up for speed on defense. He’s getting blown past by 80% of wings, nevermind actual PGs. Dude is gonna be a good player, but there’s no need to hype him up past that.
GoddamnyamanProf
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Not from anything I've seen. He can handle the ball for a 6'8" Euro for sure, but not close to an NBA pg level. He doesn't have many counters or change-ups and the dribble moves he does have aren't particularly fast or even crisp. I never saw him use his handle to get by anyone, even in the Euro league. His go-to seems to be a step back for a long jumper. He got his cookies taken several times in the Euro league. Bringing the ball up in the backcourt against 1 defender.
Being a creative ball handler and being a good ball handler are two different things.
Someone brought up Andre Miller, for example. Great command of the ball but not going to shake you out your shoes.
Lebron isn't very creative and thats your guy....
I don't even like doncic like that... but if you can get a discount healthy Brandon Roy out of this draft then you're happy as fukk. Outside of Ayton and Bagley, this draft is a LOT of hoping and dreaming.
His handles are better than Ben's were at this stage. And like Ben he does a lot of damage in transition, just the ability to change speed can be enough at times.
Healthy Batum was able to guard multiple positions with his size, post up, hit the three, and run the whole offense
Before he got paid check his line - you won't find 5 other wings with his combination of scoring and passing. He did everything on the court.
Also the majority of the league is getting blown past - team defenses stop people, not individuals. After Charlotte had top five defense with Al Jefferson at center I don't even care about individual defense unless you're an elite defender. Anyone can be hid or function within their system if the team is on point.
GoddamnyamanProf
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Simmons is a lot longer and more athletic, that helps a lot.
What about a discount Hedo Turkoglu?
I feel like Tuerean Prince is the next Hedo Turkoglu with less height and top level passing but more athletic and can shoot better.
Doncic, he don't look like no one we seen before. Both him and Bagley. Ayton, I seen it. It's like a mix of D. Rob and Shaq without the polish.
I seen JJJ before, it was Marvin Williams.
I seen Bamba before, not this athletic and agile in Deke and Gobert.
But I don't have a comparison for Bagley or Doncic.