The Official 2018 NBA Draft Talk Thread 6/21

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@tremonthustler1 the magic are the only chance at protecting us from Trae

that coin flip was supposed to guarantee us Bamba or MPJ :francis:

There's nothing wrong with drafting trae young if other targets are gone at 7th

The bulls offense was trash last year, bottom 3 in offensive rating and bottom 5 in scoring and you want bamba whose offense will take time/need to be developed over a steve nash type pg :why:
 

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Anyone do their own big board?
This my last one from a week ago:

If I had to do one today. Move Porter Jr back into the top 5. Everything else stays the same with everyone outside of the top 4 moving back. I still have the same concerns but I wrote awhile back, I would move him back up if his workouts looked like Porter Jr looks during the Nike Summit or better. From what I am hearing, he's looking better than even then. Scouts are going bonkers for him and teams are trying to move up but teams are staring to shut the door on moving down, especially the one team that was most open to it, Memphis. I think they wanted Doncic, Porter, or Bagley but unsure they would land one or Porter workout but it seems like Porter could go from 2-4.

Finally updated my top 15 post workout:

1. Bagley III

2. Bamba up 1

3. Ayton down 1

4. Doncic

5. Miles Bridges up 2

6. Mikal Bridges down 1

7. Wendell Carter Jr. up 1

8. Collin Sexton up 2

9. Michael Porter Jr. down 4

10. Lonnie Walker IV up 4

11. Trae Young up 1

12. Jaren Jackson Jr down 3

13. Robert Williams up 1

14. Kevin Knox down 1

15. Shai Gilegious Alexander down 4



Why Bamba over Ayton? I always had them tied or Ayton slightly ahead due to his measurable and tools but Bamba just has elite defensive potential, translates and while he's a WIP on offense, he is far more athletic than most are thinking. I think the sky is the limit for him. Ayton will be better day 1 but in a year, Bamba might be better and won't look back.

Miles over Mikal- I like Mikal as a team player better but Miles is going to be an all star. I wouldn't pass on him. I think both can play for awhile but Mikal will play at a higher level deeper into his career but Miles will be better out of the box.

Why so down on Porter? I love his talent and skill but his injury concerns before the spinal injury is an issue, now, I have some serious issues. He is also known to have some personality issues but his athletic ability + height + skill makes him an extremely interesting prospect at #9.



Lonnie Walker up, JJJ down. Why? Stat wise, Walker is not that interesting. JJJ is. So why the change. It's simple, I had a change to see Walker workout and his game film. I just got honest with my true feelings on JJJ and I don't think he's a top 11 prospect. While he's not boom or bust like Trae is, I see him having a fairly high floor with a fairly low ceiling. He has too much Marvin Williams in him and I just see him as a guy who can do his job well. I was really shocked by his EBYL stats. Mitchell Robinson was a better HS center and JJJ is doing what I thought. His shot blocking is not natural. He went up for more attempts when he realized he wasn't coordinated enough for the NCAA's. This wasn't an issue for him in HS. I am scared as shyt to draft him, and I have doubts he would even get to Capela's level even with the perfect personnel. He's my Malik Monk of this class. Another player stats was extremely high on who I wasn't as high on.



Shai, Shai, Shai. It's not that I am down on his talent and skills, I am just down on his weight at the next level at least in the first two seasons for him. If he can weather the storm like Trae Young, he can be a legit NBA PG but it's gonna be hard.
 

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@#1 pick you think Miles is an all star?
I think he can develop into one. I think far too many people underestimate his 2nd step. His 1st step isn't impressive but his 2nd step is similar to Bron's. Like Bron he does an excellent job in using his body as leverage. A lot of people are projecting him to be a 15-17 ppg potentially but I am projecting 20-22ppg potentially. I think he will surprise a lot of people especially since he is very smart and has decent range and off ball ability which forces you to respect him in space in ways that guys like Shabazz M couldn't do.
 

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I think he can develop into one. I think far too many people underestimate his 2nd step. His 1st step isn't impressive but his 2nd step is similar to Bron's. Like Bron he does an excellent job in using his body as leverage. A lot of people are projecting him to be a 15-17 ppg potentially but I am projecting 20-22ppg potentially. I think he will surprise a lot of people especially since he is very smart and has decent range and off ball ability which forces you to respect him in space in ways that guys like Shabazz M couldn't do.

No concerns about handle or decision making/spatial awareness?
 

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Apparently we held a secret with Lonnie Walker. You think that means we trying to move up?

:whoo:

Lonnie is one of those guys that I’m sold will be picked high, but it’s not a lock that he goes high. All those wings are very close together. I had Zhaire Smith falling to y’all at 25 but he could go lotto. Same with Lonnie.
 

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No concerns about handle or decision making/spatial awareness?
For the playoffs where possession by possession is critical, yes in terms of spatial awareness. Not as concerned about handles other than it limits his potential as a #1 option for a contender. Decision making is an area where he flashes potential on the ball. Off the ball, his decision making is excellent
 

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There's nothing wrong with drafting trae young if other targets are gone at 7th

The bulls offense was trash last year, bottom 3 in offensive rating and bottom 5 in scoring and you want bamba whose offense will take time/need to be developed over a steve nash type pg :why:
What y'all worried about offense for? LaVine's gonna score 30 a night and stuff :smugfavre:
 
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