The OFFICIAL 2018 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

[malbaker86]

How y'all feel about Dan Mullen opinion on paying players????

Florida coach Dan Mullen on why he thinks paying college athletes wouldn’t work

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Florida football coach Dan Mullen went straight from the practice field to the University Auditorium on Tuesday night to speak to a group of students and take questions on a wide range of topics.

Including whether he thinks college athletes should be paid — a polarizing topic that has gotten more and more attention in recent years.


Mullen didn’t dodge the question, instead offering his viewpoint on why he thinks it shouldn’t happen or why it would be harder to pull off than proponents think.

“They get an awful lot of benefits already. They get a full scholarship to come to the University of Florida if they’re on the team. They get cost of attendance. They get room, board, tuition, books, fees and cost of attendance to come here. If they [became] employees of the university, to go pay the players, those all become taxable benefits according to the IRS. So you get into massive tax code questions,” Mullen said. “Everybody wants to [say], ‘Pay the players.’ Get into the legal side of that before you jump up and say, ‘Let’s go pay the players.’ … Because none of these guys could afford to pay the taxes on taxable benefits.

“They get tutoring. Does that now became a taxable benefit because they’re a paid employee of the university? I’m a paid employee of the university. I get parking. That’s a taxable benefit. I have to pay taxes on my parking sticker. Anything I do, if I get a ticket to a game, that’s a taxable benefit. I have to pay taxes on the value of that ticket. Their scholarship would become that way. So the amount of money you’d have to pay them, if you paid them a certain amount, they’d have to get that much money, you’d have to pay them even more just to pay for the value of their scholarship.”

A tax lawyer could provide more insight on that topic, and one self-described tax lawyer did weigh in on Twitter after Mullen’s comments surfaced.

As of a few years ago, every NCAA Division I school is allowed but not required to provide cost of attendance stipends to its athletes for expenses aside from what their scholarship covers. They amount to several thousand dollars a year while varying from school-to-school based on the estimated expenses a student would incur.

Within the framework of the same question, Mullen was also asked his opinion on allowing college athletes to profit off their image or likeness.

“The image issue, I’m OK with that one. It’s going to get into a tricky deal, which gets into how you want to monitor or legally pay players,” he said.



He suggested a scenario in which a college coach could go to the program’s boosters and suggest they open an advertising company and pay the players even if there isn’t a true marketable demand of their image.


“I think it could cause a lot of dissension among teams because I do think players would realize their values might not be quite as much as they think they are, as far the marketing themselves value,” Mullen said.

 

[PortCityProphet]

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[PortCityProphet]

How y'all feel about Dan Mullen opinion on paying players????

I feel like every recruit he wants to go after should come to Bama cause Saint Nick good with handing out the gifts :tusaban:

 

[RammerJammer]

For those of you who are concerned Tua broke his finger on his throwing hand
but we still going undefeated

Got proven winners with both Jalen and Tua

Schedule bout to be a breeze though

A Lamar less Louisville Squad

Ole Miss with none of the 2013 class there

Mizzou

Arkansas...no comment

A&M at home

Tennessee on the road Saban's son and we know how those games go

LSU in Death Valley will always be tough

Iron Bowl at home

Secondary could take a step back tho so we may be in for a couple of shootouts

 

[malbaker86]

I feel like every recruit he wants to go after should come to Bama cause Saint Nick good with handing out the gifts :tusaban:

IDK if you got the SEC Country app on your phone but I do and got the "Florida" preference so i get all the updated UF news and we putting in work for the 2019 class. What has me is that all the recruits that has recently visited UF or will visit for the spring game (April 14th, and it's free so i'ma go lol) has Bama listed as a school that has been recruiting them HARD

 

[malbaker86]

Got proven winners with both Jalen and Tua

Schedule bout to be a breeze though

A Lamar less Louisville Squad

Ole Miss with none of the 2013 class there

Mizzou

Arkansas...no comment

A&M at home

Tennessee on the road Saban's son and we know how those games go

LSU in Death Valley will always be tough

Iron Bowl at home

Secondary could take a step back tho so we may be in for a couple of shootouts

Florida - Bama SEC title game 2018

I miss Atlanta

 

[MustafaSTL]

Got proven winners with both Jalen and Tua

Schedule bout to be a breeze though

A Lamar less Louisville Squad

Ole Miss with none of the 2013 class there

Mizzou

Arkansas...no comment

A&M at home

Tennessee on the road Saban's son and we know how those games go

LSU in Death Valley will always be tough

Iron Bowl at home

Secondary could take a step back tho so we may be in for a couple of shootouts

That schedule is disgusting.

 

[DropTopDoc]

How y'all feel about Dan Mullen opinion on paying players????

I feel like he talked around it, honestly you can pay off of likeness, that way it defeats that title 9 argument, and it levels the playing field, If you not making plays or marketable then don’t expect high pay days, and marketability. I would say that they can’t get an agent, so any advertising has to come directly to them, and allow them a school appointed lawyer to negotiate and tell them what they are agreeing to. Take all the money they earn every 3 months, put in an account, pay them, 5-10% of said earnings, minus taxes, and when they graduate/and or leave cut their check minus any taxes, that remain, that way, wether they go to the league, or on to something else they have a nest egg.



Mullins talking this bullshyt, it’s ways around this shyt, and as sure as you are born a lot of his taxes on his million plus salary I’m sure are written off, so the fukk he talking about

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

I really wanted to see Lamar play against Bama. Prolly was ducking that defense

 

[PortCityProphet]

IDK if you got the SEC Country app on your phone but I do and got the "Florida" preference so i get all the updated UF news and we putting in work for the 2019 class. What has me is that all the recruits that has recently visited UF or will visit for the spring game (April 14th, and it's free so i'ma go lol) has Bama listed as a school that has been recruiting them HARD

I'm going down there the 14th then, and let's just say

 

[malbaker86]

I really wanted to see Lamar play against Bama. Prolly was ducking that defense

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

I love Lamar but he struggled against almost every SEC team he played. 8TD 8INT

Record was 3-4

 

[KRiLL (+)]

I love Lamar but he struggled against almost every SEC team he played. 8TD 8INT

Record was 3-4

don't mean he was ducking..

 

[Rigby.]

 

[Woodwerkz]

Another underrated Louisiana product that LSU passed on. I be trying to tell lsu fans just stick with Louisiana they're like "nah bruh we need players from all over"

Nah....this is