The OFFICIAL 2018 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

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nikka please i operate on my own thought process, and you can check the tapes, if i disagree i disagree, the fukk a nikka gonna do to me whoop my ass ????




Im gon stop you there, i had my opinion before him, I’ll have mine after, i get it, nikkas are ready to believe that Mullen is the offensive mastermind but you saw the extent he could do at Mississippi State, yet in your mind you feel like he’s made progress, when in reality he did no better honestly than the nikka in front of him, just some lucky bounces, it’s not that Mullen was out there paining teams with his offensive prowess. You nikkas sound like a broad with low expectations, so used to Micky D’s that she think Applebee’s 2 for 25 is the creme de la Creme

But i tell you what next year the proof will be in the pudding, i have no problem admitting i was wrong, but i tell you this much let that nikka Mullen struggle, I got VIP access to the party I’m gon have on all tre’ of y’all that’s drinking the Kool-aid

Florida improved leaps and bounds offensively this year compared to last. To say he aint do much better than McElwain is disingenuous to say the least.

The 2018 Gators offense averaged 34.5 points per game. That’s up from 22.1 ppg in 2017, which ranked 103rd out of 130 teams in the country. This season the team ranked 31st. This was also the first time a Florida football team averaged more than 30 points a game since 2009.

Yardage wise, the Gators were equally impressive. Overall, Florida averaged 426 yards of total offense a game - that’s up by almost 100 yards from 2017 when the team averaged only 335 yards a game.
 

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How different did UF look? Same exact team for the most part. Just eeked out a few different games at the end.

Give me a description of 2017 UF and then give me a description of 2018 UF.

Again....

The 2018 Gators offense averaged 34.5 points per game. That’s up from 22.1 ppg in 2017, which ranked 103rd out of 130 teams in the country. This season the team ranked 31st. This was also the first time a Florida football team averaged more than 30 points a game since 2009.

Yardage wise, the Gators were equally impressive. Overall, Florida averaged 426 yards of total offense a game - that’s up by almost 100 yards from 2017 when the team averaged only 335 yards a game.

Outside of Bama and Clemson, what Power 5 teams DIDN'T have a few games where they eeked out wins during the reg season :jbhmm:
 

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Florida improved leaps and bounds offensively this year compared to last. To say he aint do much better than McElwain is disingenuous to say the least.

The 2018 Gators offense averaged 34.5 points per game. That’s up from 22.1 ppg in 2017, which ranked 103rd out of 130 teams in the country. This season the team ranked 31st. This was also the first time a Florida football team averaged more than 30 points a game since 2009.

Yardage wise, the Gators were equally impressive. Overall, Florida averaged 426 yards of total offense a game - that’s up by almost 100 yards from 2017 when the team averaged only 335 yards a game.

@malbaker86 you my mans 50grand

But the only reason them points up, are because of blow outs in citadel and FSU

Because most games you all scored 17-21 points i expect Mullen to throw it up so the yards can’t argue you too much, but all these stats, and he struggled with teams he should not have and lost to teams he should not have
 

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@malbaker86 you my mans 50grand

But the only reason them points up, are because of blow outs in citadel and FSU

Because most games you all scored 17-21 points i expect Mullen to throw it up so the yards can’t argue you too much, but all these stats, and he struggled with teams he should not have and lost to teams he should not have

kentucky and Missouri were the only games where offensively we just didnt have the juice. The UGA game we did whatever the hell we wanted to offensively, for the most part, but three costly to's killed us along with Feleipe missing that gimmie TD on our first drive. Not saying we woulda won, but whatever.

Point is, yall acting like we the same discombobulated team as 2017 and that aint the case and the proof is in the record, the stats, and the eye test. Not tryna convince anybody of otherwise though, yall believe what yall wanna believe :manny:
 

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Again....

The 2018 Gators offense averaged 34.5 points per game. That’s up from 22.1 ppg in 2017, which ranked 103rd out of 130 teams in the country. This season the team ranked 31st. This was also the first time a Florida football team averaged more than 30 points a game since 2009.

Yardage wise, the Gators were equally impressive. Overall, Florida averaged 426 yards of total offense a game - that’s up by almost 100 yards from 2017 when the team averaged only 335 yards a game.

Outside of Bama and Clemson, what Power 5 teams DIDN'T have a few games where they eeked out wins during the reg season :jbhmm:

Look at their games I highlighted a page back and come back and holla at me.
Cause I saw those numbers too, then i went and looked at scores and the scores arent impressive in the least bit, and that means more than empty yardage cause the team yall were playing was right there with you score wise. So what did you really do on the field that was drastically different?
 

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Look at their games I highlighted a page back and come back and holla at me.
Cause I saw those numbers too, then i went and looked at scores and the scores arent impressive in the least bit, and that means more than empty yardage cause the team yall were playing was right there with you score wise. So what did you really do on the field that was drastically different?

oh that's easy....

2017 is on your left followed by national rank then SEC rank, 2018 is on your right....

335.9 109th / 13th Total Offense 426.7 48th / 7th
22.1 108th / 13th Scoring Offense 34.5 31st / 5th
156.4 75th / 9th Rushing Offense 209.5 26th / 3rd
179.5 101st / 11th Pass Offense 217.2 77th / 8th
113.1 112th / 14th Pass Efficiency 146.7 35th / 5th
1.00 117th / 13th TD-INT Ratio 4.50 T-12th / 3rd
32.5 117th / 13th 3rd-Down Percentage 40.8 56th / 7th
37 118th /14th Sacks Allowed 15 T-19th / 3rd
 

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The shyttiest top 10-15 in recent memory. Agree with the developing but why be at a top tier school and continue to latch on to 3 stars? You'll never win your conference like that. He's selling his program short

He's doing it with a lot of those 3*'s and lower ranked 4*'s that Mac "left" us. He also came to UF with a rep of not being the greatest of recruiters and didn't have a great recruiting staff with him and it was going to take us having to SHOW progress on the field to get these recruits to buy in and listen to what he's selling them. If you take a look at our 2020 and 2021 classes, both are already ranked within the top 5. Yea I know it's early and a lot may and/or will change between now and then, but he's making strides as a recruiter. I think what he does is recruit more towards his needs and what type of player fits his system rather than go after stars.

What he's trying to sure up, and what we need BADLY is depth at LB and DB and we're expected to bring in a very nice haul at those positions. Won't know until ink hits the paper in 2 weeks and then 2 months following that.
 

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oh that's easy....

2017 is on your left followed by national rank then SEC rank, 2018 is on your right....

335.9 109th / 13th Total Offense 426.7 48th / 7th
22.1 108th / 13th Scoring Offense 34.5 31st / 5th
156.4 75th / 9th Rushing Offense 209.5 26th / 3rd
179.5 101st / 11th Pass Offense 217.2 77th / 8th
113.1 112th / 14th Pass Efficiency 146.7 35th / 5th
1.00 117th / 13th TD-INT Ratio 4.50 T-12th / 3rd
32.5 117th / 13th 3rd-Down Percentage 40.8 56th / 7th
37 118th /14th Sacks Allowed 15 T-19th / 3rd

Still missing my point.
But ok
 

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Still missing my point.
But ok

i'm not. you're asking what happened on the field differently than last year. What Mullen did as oppose to the last staff is actually cater to what our players strengths are as well as take what the defense gave us. The MSU game is the perfect example. Mac/Nuss led offense would have tried to force their style of offense regardless of what the defense gave us yet that's not what Mullen did that game. He understood that their DL was better than our OL and to negate the pass rush, he off set that by running quick screens and then when they started to cheat, he hit them with the trick play for the TD.

Same with the LSU game. What he did a few times and timely was run the option with Feleipe and Perine and LSU was cluesless for w/e reason to stop it.

South Carolina game is another example as well. The first 3 and a half quarters he was making the same mistake that he did with Feleipe and attempted to make him just a pure drop back passer. Once that was apparent that wasn't going to work, he started to utilize Feleipe as a Tebow-like runner and that in turn opened up the passing game and also quick slants and stop routes.

Mullen offensively did a great job this year in play calling and taking what the defense gave us. At times it was boring a prodding, but it was a method to that madness and he more often than not, dialed up the right play call.

The UGA game, like I mentioned in an earlier post, offensively, we were moving the ball but shot ourselves in the foot with 3 costly TO's and also Franks missing that damn flea flicker. It wasn't as if we couldn't move the ball, we just had issues hanging on to the ball. Didn't help that on the other side of the ball we lost CJ Henderson on the first drive of the game and UGA wisely attacked McWilliams (as LSU did against us as well) and HIS replacement was suspended that game for whatever reason.

Nuss/Mac put TOO much on Feleipe's plate last year as oppose to gradually opening the playbook as the season went on. Dude was out there audibling and making line adjustments in his first damn career start :dahell:. Mac/Nuss were stubborn offensively to the death of them, Mullen isn't. That's what happened on the field that was different from last year compared to this year.
 

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Taggart. They can both bring in assistant's to fix their shortcomings. Mullen not on the trail like Taggart. Now on the development side he may be better but there's no reason to be the HC at UF and bringing in a shyt ton of 3 stars since that type of thing means a lot to most fans. Hell, Zook was bringing in better talent from the day he stepped foot on that campus than Mullen.

Zook was also following Spurrier and a team that went 10-2 the previous year and had a Heisman runner up at QB as oppose to Mullen following up Mac and a 4 win team.
 

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The hell yall arguing about?!

we're being told that the 2018 UF team is the same team from 2017 regardless of what the record and stats suggest, also that Taggert is better than Mullen, and Taggert INHERITED more of a mess and a team with less talent than Mullen did at UF.

All i'm saying in defense to that is that we're definitely not the same as last year using the eye test, stats, and records and have made quite a few post in this thread to back it up.
 

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It's okay to be wrong fellas. If u watched the UGA game it was a good game until the fumble in the third , the year before they got smoked on the first series.

Right. I'm getting the sense they may think that WE think that UF is back and will be elite again starting next year. Nope, that's not the case. We KNOW it's going to take another 2-3 years to seriously compete with the elite teams of CFB. We still lack depth and size on the two deep but Nick Savage has made a HUGE difference in our strength and conditioning. Players last year was saying they KNEW were were going to get washed as soon as they got a LOOK at the other team based on how well conditioned and fit they looked. Hell they were out here paying Tim Montgomery out of their own pockets last year because the strength and conditioning under McElwain was so trash.

Take this

"The team's lack of physicality and form has been blamed heavily on how the strength and conditioning program was handled in the last three years. Ivey admits that many players on Florida's teams chose to hire personal trainers away from the university in order to prepare their bodies for the seasons.

“We could tell that people were stronger than us, and I don’t want to say that it was intimidating, but it just made me ask why," said Ivey. "I have a feeling that we will be more physical up front, and we will be able to take control of the game more and have more strength more speed and more power.”


or this

"Stricklin believed McElwain had earned a contract extension because he'd guided the Gators to back-to-back SEC East championships, but the administration still had serious concerns about the direction of Florida's offense and strength and conditioning program.

UF administrators had urged McElwain to turn over the staff in the Gators' weight room because they believed workouts were unorganized and players weren't being adequately developed under Mike Kent, the director of strength and conditioning, who had followed McElwain to Florida from Colorado State."

or this

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Who could forget Taven Bryan's words and criticism after Florida's Pro Day this spring.

"We looked like the Pillsbury dough boys," said the former Gator defensive lineman about the team's conditioning last season.

It's been an ongoing storyline since Jim McElwain's departure, Florida's strength and conditioning program is inadequate and needed an overhaul.

Enter Nick Savage.

"I see more change in three months than I was here for three years," said Florida offensive lineman Martez Ivey said at SEC Media Days."


Next year we'll probably start off ranked in the top 10 and to be honest, that'll be overrating/overranking us. We're more of a top 15ish team if we're being honest
 
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