The OFFICIAL 2018 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Yall think we'll have a new elite or near elite CFB program emerge in the next 10-15 years that never was one before??

Like say.....

nc state
Texas tech
Oregon state


Any of those type of schools that be ranked in the 20's most years then all of a sudden figure it out and make THE JUMP??? For a minute i though Sumlin and A&M was about to and maybe they will now with Jimbo

Depends on who they hire. Some new guy might emerge but the guy I think has next is Matt Campbell

 

[Silkk]

Depends on who they hire. Some new guy might emerge but the guy I think has next is Matt Campbell

Not having to deal with OU, UT, TCU, & OKST every season

 

[jwonder]

I can say that Dabo is exactly who he is. As a position's coach he as a players coach who was accessible to any of them. That's one of the main reasons he got the interim coach position when Tommy Bowden was let go and not DC Vic Koenning. I can say that he's like Pete in a lot of ways as his coaching style is more business model than some other coaches. However his biggest asset is his vision for the overall product. He knew what type of offense and defense he saw in his big picture of Clemson. He even knew what facilities and amenities he wanted to have at Clemson that best conveyed his goals for the players.

People really forget this about Dabo.

Spoiler

1. When he took over...he fired Rob Spence and promoted Billy Napier to OC. After not really finding anyone he and Napier tried to run the offense the next year and let's just say we got by on having CJ Spiller do everything with a bad toe.
2. He fired Koenning because Vic was not happy that he did not get the job and was causing commotion. He in turn hired Kevin Steele.
3. He hired Chad Morris but knew that Morris was going to be trying to dip for a HC position the first nibble he got. So from year one he made Tony Elliott and Jeff Scott learn Morris's Offense and add to it. So when Chad left we had a "Clemson Offense" in place.
4. He knew after winning the Natty that a few staff members were going to retire so he already had a short list of coaches that he felt would be a fit and hired them asap. Ex. He went and go Coach Bates from Jax St in Alabama.

I say all that to say that his biggest abilities are to really create a real family feel to the program and to maintain staff turnover. He stated that he has more than enough money and he doesn't want his staff to feel like more money is a reason for them to leave. He'd rather they wait for the right job instead of any job so he ensures they are paid well and are respected. The result is a bunch of coaches that feel they are equal to everyone and they all get along.

Dude knows the eye for talent and coaches. Knows how to adjust too. Yeah that explains the success

 

[jwonder]

Yall think we'll have a new elite or near elite CFB program emerge in the next 10-15 years that never was one before??

Like say.....

nc state
Texas tech
Oregon state


Any of those type of schools that be ranked in the 20's most years then all of a sudden figure it out and make THE JUMP??? For a minute i though Sumlin and A&M was about to and maybe they will now with Jimbo

I don't think the teams you named will ever be elite. Maybe have a good season here and there. Beat a team who they shouldnt but that's about it

 

[malbaker86]

nikka I already answered the question

Oregon state ain't never been good. So they ain't bout to be a powerhouse anytime soon

A better question would've been which former powerhouse will become one again.
Texas, Nebraska, or The U

You didn't answer the question cause i said those kind of teams, not THOSE teams in particular . I clearly stated that to start the last paragraph

I don't think the teams you named will ever be elite. Maybe have a good season here and there. Beat a team who they shouldnt but that's about it

Im not saying THOSE teams i listed, im saying those caliber kind of teams. The Middle tiered conference teams

 

[jwonder]

You didn't answer the question cause i said those kind of teams, not THOSE teams in particular . I clearly stated that to start the last paragraph



Im not saying THOSE teams i listed, im saying those caliber kind of teams. The Middle tiered conference teams

Oh. Really hard to tell. I think some teams that were good in the past will good again like Nebraska and Tenn.

Maybe UCLA with chip. That's only team I can really think of that has a chance.

 

[malbaker86]

Oh. Really hard to tell. I think some teams that were good in the past will good again like Nebraska and Tenn.

Maybe UCLA with chip. That's only team I can really think of that has a chance.

Yea Chip came to mind as did Jimbo. Jimbo will have the resources and time to do it if he is to do it. We'll see what he can do without that FSU brand to attract top talent off name alone

 

[jwonder]

Yea Chip came to mind as did Jimbo. Jimbo will have the resources and time to do it if he is to do it. We'll see what he can do without that FSU brand to attract top talent off name alone

Yeah I would put Jimbo up there. A good DC masks his dumb play calling. And he has one now.

His name is there. He won a chip and his qbs are first rounders. He doesn't need FSU brand at all. He also did well recruiting at such a short time.

 

[Sauce Dab]

You didn't answer the question cause i said those kind of teams, not THOSE teams in particular . I clearly stated that to start the last paragraph



Im not saying THOSE teams i listed, im saying those caliber kind of teams. The Middle tiered conference teams

Oh now I see. Does Washington count? Seems like Peterson is building something special

 

[The ADD]

Yall think we'll have a new elite or near elite CFB program emerge in the next 10-15 years that never was one before??

Like say.....

nc state
Texas tech
Oregon state


Any of those type of schools that be ranked in the 20's most years then all of a sudden figure it out and make THE JUMP??? For a minute i though Sumlin and A&M was about to and maybe they will now with Jimbo

I don't think so because so much would have to fall into place for it to happen, several lightning strikes. Reading @Woodwerkz post about Dabo is a great example. When he was hired the landscape was different. He got enough time to make his imprint even though there were changes in leadership in the administration. Then when it came time to cut the checks the administration opened up the wallet. I feel like the right up and coming coach along with an administration willing to pay up (salaries, facilities, recruiting budget) and that has the resources is a rubix cube.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Not having to deal with OU, UT, TCU, & OKST every season

Baylor had to play those teams too. You can't be scared of who ur goin to play, Matt Campbell isn't he's already beaten Oklahoma and TCU his first year, had ISU competing for the Big12. We'll see if he stays there long enough tho

 

[Silkk]

Baylor had to play those teams too. You can't be scared of who ur goin to play, Matt Campbell isn't he's already beaten Oklahoma and TCU his first year, had ISU competing for the Big12. We'll see if he stays there long enough tho

Matt Campbell ain't Big Daddy Briles tho

They're built and play like K state, and that shyt won't work week in and week out in that conference unless you get BIG and STRONG in the trenches like UT is doing.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Matt Campbell ain't Big Daddy Briles tho

They're built and play like K state, and that shyt won't work week in and week out in that conference unless you get BIG and STRONG in the trenches like UT is doing.

How Texas building in the trenches when their o-line was trash last year with Conner Williams and now he's gone. They got some ok recruits there but can they play at a high level day 1?

 

[Silkk]

How Texas building in the trenches when their o-line was trash last year with Conner Williams and now he's gone. They got some ok recruits there but can they play at a high level day 1?

Did you watch them play as the season went on? They was punking the fukk out us, OU, Mizzou, etc

 

[smitty22]

Not having to deal with OU, UT, TCU, & OKST every season

shytty ass conference.