The Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread

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I think it was two thirds
You're right

The Bears traded the no. 3 pick, a third-round pick (no. 67), a fourth-round pick (no. 111), and a 2018 third-round pick

Bears also traded down 9 spots in the 2nd round to acquire 2 4th round picks (1 this draft, 1 next draft). So they were able to mitigate what they paid for Trubisky a bit.

It sounds like Trubisky has been their guy for a long time. They are getting universally panned here, but they should get some credit for their ability to keep their interest so quiet. If the Chiefs & Browns were aware the Bears had such high interest, maybe that pushes them to be more aggressive to get him. The Chiefs & Andy Reid apparently in love with Trub. If they are 100% certain about this dude, then I dont blame them for being overly aggressive to obtain him. If they really think hes this cant miss QB, then fine.

Now he has to prove it :yeshrug:
 

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Why the Slide?: Dalvin Cook

Three years ago, we started a series of articles on why certain prospects went undrafted. In that series, I reach out to sources with NFL teams to find out why their organizations passed on drafting a given player, and/or, what were the reasons for other teams to pass on that prospect. We got a lot of positive reader feedback about the series, so we decided to expand in the genre to investigate why some prospects slid in the draft. A year later, we started the Why Slide? series, and this year, it is back.

Leading up to the 2017 NFL Draft, Florida State running back Dalvin Cook was a consensus first-round pick who many felt was a top-10 talent. As the draft itself got closer and closer, however, there were more and more reports of Cook sliding, for a variety of reasons. Some of the reports suggested off-the-field concerns,while others said there were medical concerns. Cook did end up sliding out of the first round, despite the fact that there were NFL teams that had given him a top-10 grade as a player.

Sources say the reason why Cook slid was a combination of the medical evaluation and the off-the-field issues, but in speaking with sources at multiple teams that could have used an upgrade at running back, it sounds like the off-the-field portion was a bigger detriment to Cook than the medical report. Teams felt the medical issues were there, but minor. WalterFootball.com was first to report that there were some off-the-field concerns with Cook stemming from him having a group of old friends who were described as an entourage of gang-bangers. Cook had to reassure teams that his friends wouldn't be following him to his NFL city, but some teams had doubts about that.

Cook is known as a good teammate, so teams were also worried that some his teammates would be hanging out with him off the field and those rough individuals that Cook has been hanging out with would be there as well. Such a scenario would put multiple players in danger of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. While the medical evaluation played a role, the off-the-field concerns were the biggest anchor that weighed down Cook's draft position.

The Minnesota Vikings ended Cook's fall when they traded up for him in the second round, and that was a great landing spot for him. The Vikings had a big hole for a feature back after moving on from Adrian Peterson. They signed Latavius Murray, but he is just a backup quality running back. Cook can be the lead back in their offense, and with his first-round talent, he helps make up for them not having a first-round pick due to the Sam Bradford trade.

Cook was a steal in the second round for Minnesota. Going to small market in a cold midwest city also could help Cook to put distance with those friends and stay focused on football. Also, Mike Zimmer has done well working with some players who had off-the-field issues. The Vikings were a great landing spot for Cook, and it wouldn't be surprising if he provides a big impact for Minnesota as soon as his rookie season.
 

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I think trubisky gonna be alright tbh. Not worth chi gave up to get him but I don't see him being completely jimmy Clausen garbo. He gonna prove some people wrong. He's a good QB.
 

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I think trubisky gonna be alright tbh. Not worth chi gave up to get him but I don't see him being completely jimmy Clausen garbo. He gonna prove some people wrong. He's a good QB.
I mean what did we really give up though? We gave up less than most teams that move up to get what they believe to be their franchise QB

gave up two 3rds & one 4th

we got two 4ths back by trading back 9 slots in the 2nd round

thats not really some crazy ransom. aint really shyt if Trubisky turns out to be legit
 

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I mean what did we really give up though? We gave up less than most teams that move up to get what they believe to be their franchise QB

gave up two 3rds & one 4th

we got two 4ths back by trading back 9 slots in the 2nd round

thats not really some crazy ransom. aint really shyt if Trubisky turns out to be legit

Didn't know yall got some picks back. :ehh:
 

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Thats because he's good. The majority of the hate on here comes from people who haven't watched him take one snap.

The trade up was probably unnecessary, but Trubisky is talented and should have a long successful career.
I agree that Tru is good. I just don't agree that he's as good as Watson but he's a better fit in Chicago than Watson due to the wind and weather
 

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2017 NFL Draft: End Notes

There are always interesting stories surfacing after the draft as to what took place over the three days and seven rounds. Here are just a few we've conjured up since the weekend.

As surprising as the Chicago Bears selection of Mitch Trubisky was to everyone watching the draft, it was equally surprising to those in the green room waiting to hear the name of the selection. Unlike all the other teams who made the obligatory phone call to the player they were about to select in Round 1, I'm told the Bears never called anyone. When it was announced that the Bears pick was in and the Niners were on the clock, those in the green room told me that Mitch Trubisky and his team looked over towards Jamal Adams while Adams was also looking around -- everyone was trying to figure out who the Bears were selecting, as no one was talking on the phone with the team!

On a side note, the Bears did not bring Trubisky in for a predraft visit but did work him out individually.

And while the Bears' selection stole the headlines, the bigger story in the scouting community was the fall of the Alabama players.

Let's rewind three months ago after the national title game and Senior Bowl were completed. At that time it was believed that as many as six Crimson Tide players could land in the first 20 picks of the draft. Jonathan Allen was viewed as a top-four pick while Reuben Foster, Tim Williams, Marlon Humphrey, O.J. Howard and Cam Robinson were all graded as players who could land as early as the eighth pick of the draft and no later than the 20th selection.

So what happened? More and more teams are starting to realize Alabama players are entering the league both beat up and maxed out. Both are understandable as the Crimson Tide is always fighting for the national title, which lengthens their season. Their pro-style coach Nick Saban gets the maximum from his players, who then enter the NFL without high upside.

There's also the concern that some players are playing with injuries when they should not be on the field, which damages their next-level potential and careers. It's something I mentioned in January during an interview when I stressed that this is not exclusive to Alabama but takes place all across big-time college football.

I'm told the Seattle Seahawks are overjoyed with their draft, as seven of the players they selected graded as first- or second-rounders on their board.

The reason Isaac Asiata fell two rounds later than anyone expected was due to medical red flags on his knee. I still expect the big guard to be a quick starter for the Dolphins.

Then there's the case of Chidobe Awuzie falling deep into the second round. For what it's worth, I'm told lack of height (Awuzie was barely under the magic 6-foot barrier after measuring 5117 at the combine) as well as arm length precipitated his fall. Awuzie's arms measured 30 5/8 inches; the only combine cornerback drafted with shorter arms was Cameron Sutton at 30 inches.

The New York Jets' selection of Dylan Donahue in Round 5 came as a surprise to no one, as the Jets were high on the pass rusher/special teamer all last season. In a lot of ways he reminds me of former Jet Chad Cascadden.
 

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Houston Texans!!! :jbhmm:

If dude turns into a star then they struck gold. If not... That's a high price to pay. Either way I hope it works out. That team is too good as is to not take a risk for what may put them over the top

Not really a high price to pay. He only has like a 13mil contract. JJ Watts gonna get like 14mil this season solo...just saying
 
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