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So apparently I missed watching Oklahoma play all year, but Holy shyt, I'm reading that Joe Mixon was considered the best RB in the draft? Am I missing something or is dude really that good?
 

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He's not more athletic. I view him as a Randall Cunningham clone when it comes to athleticism. What will make Josh Dobbs revolutionary is his impact on the NFL.

Like I said earlier, imagine if you put Randall Cunningham's skill set with Michael Jordan's mentality. That is Josh Dobbs.

Randall himself admitted he didn't reach his potential cause he liked partying and enjoyed the shyt fame brought back in the day. Dobbs has got incredible work ethic (as you can see in his decision of what to major in during college) and he's an incredible competitor. As I've stated before, multiple teammates and coaches have said he was the most competitive dude on the team. He not only wanted to beat guys in football but he was also competitive when it came to video games, school, etc.

I'll always bet on guys with intangibles like this. Combine great physical talent with incredible work ethic and an intense competitive drive and you get GREATNESS.


You forgot the most important attribute, he went to Tennessee
 
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Watson has crazy intangibles, but you keep saying he's gonna bust.

Which team you feel gives Dobbs the best situation to thrive in?

My problem with Watson is more historical than about him. History tells us he will be a bust. Who is the last heisman finalist/winner QB who took his team to the national title that has been a success in the NFL? Don't say Winston cause its too soon. Cam is kind of an outlier but his career has been mad inconsistent. Plus Watson comes off more like RG3 than Cam cause like RG3 he's slight of build and has a ACL injury from college and takes brutal hits constantly.

Most guys with Watson's pedigree turn out to be busts in the NFL. The guys who become stars in the NFL have Dobbs pedigree. Good college careers but not really great in the sense of them being considered heisman finalists or winning national titles. Being overlooked fuels guys like this.

I personally would like Dobbs to go to Pittsburgh or Cleveland. Pittsburgh cause its a stable organization with tons of talent already on the football team. And with Big Ben always getting hurt, Dobbs stands a good chance of being Dak 2.0 and having instant success as a rookie. Cleveland because they got no QB and Josh could come in and play right away.
 

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My problem with Watson is more historical than about him. History tells us he will be a bust. Who is the last heisman finalist/winner QB who took his team to the national title that has been a success in the NFL? Don't say Winston cause its too soon. Cam is kind of an outlier but his career has been mad inconsistent. Plus Watson comes off more like RG3 than Cam cause like RG3 he's slight of build and has a ACL injury from college and takes brutal hits constantly.

Most guys with Watson's pedigree turn out to be busts in the NFL. The guys who become stars in the NFL have Dobbs pedigree. Good college careers but not really great in the sense of them being considered heisman finalists or winning national titles. Being overlooked fuels guys like this.

I personally would like Dobbs to go to Pittsburgh or Cleveland. Pittsburgh cause its a stable organization with tons of talent already on the football team. And with Big Ben always getting hurt, Dobbs stands a good chance of being Dak 2.0 and having instant success as a rookie. Cleveland because they got no QB and Josh could come in and play right away.

That is a poor way to evaluate it. The Heisman is irrelevant because it's completely based on stats, so anyone in the right system can win it. That has no bearing on how Watson will do in the NFL, so you should instead evaluate how he moves, talks and plays on tape and in workouts rather than worrying about what awards he won.
 

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Is the kid from Washington ( John Ross' qb) rated highly for next year?

Watching Ross's highlights had me :whew: at some of the throws he was making. I think that kid could be pretty good


Browning is not that great, he's careful with not making mistakes but he's not going to win you games. I could see him going high though because he has all the right... intangibles, that teams like
 

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Is the kid from Washington ( John Ross' qb) rated highly for next year?

Watching Ross's highlights had me :whew: at some of the throws he was making. I think that kid could be pretty good

Browning was 2nd place in Heisman voting IIRC. If Lamar wasn't a goddamn savage he'd be talked about more. Darnold too, usc just barely missed the playoff

Browning and Darnold are both better than Rosen to me, but more importantly they're DEFINITELY better than Trashbisky and Mahomes
 

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Browning is not that great, he's careful with not making mistakes but he's not going to win you games. I could see him going high though because he has all the right... intangibles, that teams like
yeah he's have to take a big leap to be a legit nfl prospect this year

especially with how he wilted in the Alabama game
 
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You forgot the most important attribute, he went to Tennessee

Honestly I don't give a shyt about that. You'll see that during next year's draft. This year I had 3 Vols in my top 10 overall prospects (Dobbs, Kamara, and Sutton). Next draft I don't see any first round caliber dudes coming from Tennessee.

My early top 10 in 2018 comprises of:

1. RB Saquon Barkley (Penn State)
2. S Derwin James (Florida State)
3. WR Antonio Callaway (Florida)
4. DE Arden Key (LSU)
5. QB Sam Darnold (USC)
6. DT Christian Wilkins (Clemson)
7. DT Da'Ron Payne (Alabama)
8. QB Lamar Jackson (Louisville)
9. RB Ronald Jones II (USC)
10. Nyquan Murray (Florida State)
 

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Browning is not that great, he's careful with not making mistakes but he's not going to win you games. I could see him going high though because he has all the right... intangibles, that teams like

43 and 9 and only losing 1 big game throughout the year is pretty great tbh wit you breh.
 
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