The Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread

[King P]

2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Tight Ends

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Evan Engram, Ole Miss
One team reportedly thought Evan Engram would be available for them in the middle of the second round. They admitted that was no longer a possibility after Engram's dynamic showing in Indianapolis. Engram ran a 4.42 40, the third-best time for a tight end since 2003, and also posted a vertical of 36 inches and a broad jump of 10-5. Engram followed that up with a 6.92 in the 3-cone, trailing only O.J. Howard in that valuable drill. Engram is an extremely hard worker, so it's nice to see that all of his effort paid off.

Gerald Everett, South Alabama
Gerald Everett is liked by some as a potential second-round prospect, and he lived up to that billing in Indianapolis. Everett posted a very solid 40 (4.62), and he was even better in some of the other testing numbers. He posted a 10-6 broad jump, a 37.5-inch vertical and a 6.99 3-cone time. Everett's hands were small (8 1/2), but he's a natural receiver, so he shouldn't be downgraded for that.

Bucky Hodges, Virginia Tech
Bucky Hodges tested very athletically at the combine. His 40 (4.57) was outstanding, considering his 6-6, 257-pound frame. He also notched sterling numbers in the leaping drills, getting an 11-2 broad jump and a 39-inch vertical. Hodges had one awkward moment where he had one of the ugliest three-point stances ever, and his tape isn't as great as these figures say he is, but some teams will fall in love with his potential.

O.J. Howard, Alabama
O.J. Howard was outclassed by some of the other tight ends in the agility testing, but he was terrific in the on-field drills, which is extremely important. Besides, Howard's numbers weren't bad either if you disregard his mediocre vertical (30 inches). Howard ran a 4.51 40 at 6-6, 251, and he also posted the best 3-cone time of 6.85. Howard is a likely top-20 pick.

George Kittle, Iowa
George Kittle was seen as a quality blocking tight end heading into the combine, but based on how he performed in Indianapolis, teams might think that he can be more than that. Kittle ran a very impressive 4.52 40 at 6-4, 247. He also posted an 11-0 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical. Kittle will certainly have front offices searching for his tape, and he may have entered mid-round consideration.

David Njoku, Miami
David Njoku helped himself as a first-round tight end with an impressive showing in Indianapolis. His 40 time wasn't great (4.64), but was considered solid for a man his size (6-4, 246). His jumps were much better; he notched an 11-1 broad and 37.5-inch vertical. His 3-cone was excellent (6.97), and he looked good in the drills.

Jonnu Smith, Florida International
The top tight ends all thrived at the combine, but they weren't the only ones. Jonnu Smith lit up the agility tests as well, sprinting a 4.62 (at 6-3, 248), and hitting a 38-inch vertical and 10-7 broad jump. Despite all this, Smith's best moments came in the on-field drills, where he was excellent. Smith went from a third-day sleeper to a potential second-day prospect.

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Jordan Leggett, Clemson
Jordan Leggett did nothing wrong at the combine, but he gets a stock-down arrow because all of the prominent tight ends improved their draft standing. Leggett, for some reason, opted not to run the 40, which he may regret. Then again, his leaping numbers (9-6 broad, 33-inch vertical) weren't special, so perhaps his time would've been mediocre. Leggett was fine in the drills, but his stock has dropped because everyone else's has risen.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

It's iffy. I know for a fact he isn't touching top 15. It's 50/50 bottom first or second.

I just don't see it especially since he has almost no tape at safety. This safety class is stacked at the top and is deep. So a team shouldn't have to reach for him. But we'll see u never know

 

[King P]

2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Offensive Linemen

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Garett Bolles, OT, Utah
Garett Bolles tested better than every other offensive lineman at the combine. He ran a 4.95 40 with a 1.71 10-yard split. He also posted a terrific 3-cone time of 7.29. More importantly, Bolles eased concerns about his character concerns. He aced the team interviews, according to Charlie Campbell.

Aviante Collins, OT, TCU
Aviante Collins had the best 40-yard dash for all of the offensive linemen in Indianapolis this year. In fact, Collins had the third-fastest 40-yard dash of any offensive lineman since 2003. Collins posted a 4.81 40 with a 1.69 10-yard dash. He also notched 34 reps on the bench press.

Ethan Cooper, G, IUP
It's not all about the 40 times, and that proved to be the case with Ethan Cooper. The IUP product posted a poor 5.36 40-yard dash, and his 3-cone (8.02) wasn't very good either. However, Cooper stood out in the drills. He moved extremely well for a man his size (6-2, 322), and he may have worked his way into the middle rounds.

Forrest Lamp, G/C, Western Kentucky
Forrest Lamp helped himself more than any other offensive line prospect at the combine this year. Lamp was awesome in the drills, and he also posted a 5.00 40-yard dash, a 1.75 10-yard split, 34 reps on the bench and a 7.55 3-cone. Lamp has almost certainly worked himself into first-round consideration, especially since a number of teams in the 20s need interior offensive line help.

Taylor Moton, OT, Western Michigan
Taylor Moton posted very good testing numbers Friday. He notched a 5.18 40-yard dash and a 7.73 3-cone time - not bad for a 319-pound offensive tackle! More importantly, Moton displayed some terrific footwork in the drills. The Western Michigan product could have cemented himself as a second-round prospect.

Nico Siragusa, G, San Diego State
Nico Siragusa tested extremely well at the combine. His 40 doesn't look good (5.36), but he posted a nice 10-yard split (1.83), and his 3-cone was exceptional (7.71) for a 320-pound guard. Siragusa also had the top vertical (32 inches) of all the offensive linemen.

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Zach Banner, OT, USC
Zach Banner had weight issues throughout his collegiate career, and he didn't do anything in Indianapolis to ease anyone's concerns. Banner measured in at 6-8, 353, and he ran a 5.58 40 with a 1.92 10-yard split. Banner looked sluggish in the drills and tested poorly overall.

Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M
Avery Gennesy struggled this past season, as his tape wasn't very impressive. He needed a good combine to turn things around, but his 40 (5.35), bench (24 reps) and 3-cone (8.08) were all poor.

Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
Ryan Ramczyk is injured, so he obviously couldn't work out at the combine. All he could do was interview, and it didn't go so well. I still expect Ramczyk to be chosen in the first round, but he could fall behind Garett Bolles, who had a terrific week in Indianapolis.

David Sharpe, G, Florida
David Sharpe is a powerful blocker, but is stiff, and he could've used a great performance at the combine to bolster his draft stock. Sharpe's numbers were underwhelming, but not particularly bad. The problem was that it was revealed that he's actually legally blind in his right eye. This causes him to be late off the snap sometimes.

 

[King P]

2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Defensive Linemen

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Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
Derek Barnett is a highly productive player, but wasn't expected to test overly well at the combine. There was some question if he'd even test at all because he was battling the flu. As it so happens, Barnett was able to gut it out, earning the praise of some around the league. Barnett was actually able to excel in some areas, posting one of the top 3-cone times of all the defensive linemen (6.96). His 40 time (4.88), vertical (31 inches) and broad (9-9) weren't bad considering he's 260 pounds.

Tarell Basham, DE, Ohio
Tarell Basham was one of the top performers of the first group of defensive linemen. Not only did he perform well in the on-field drills, but he posted some impressive agility numbers. He ran a 4.70 with a 1.61 split despite weighing in at 6-4, 269. His vertical (31.5 inches) and broad (9-11) were both solid for a man his size. Basham may have worked himself into second-day territory.

Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The San Francisco 49ers are now on the clock. Based on Sunday's performance, Myles Garrett appears to be locked into the Browns' pick. Garrett put on a show, running a 4.64 at 6-4, 272, which is just absurd. He didn't stop there, leaping 41 inches vertically and 10-8 horizontally. Garrett was dominant in the drills as well, prompting Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer to report that the Browns were "blown away" by Garrett's performance. This is going to be a Jadeveon Clowney-type situation where the Browns pass on a quarterback because there's an utterly dominant edge rusher who should be taken instead.

Trey Hendrickson, DE, Florida Atlantic
Trey Hendrickson had a superb combine performance. He already had good tape going into Indianapolis, but no one expected a great athletic performance like this. Hendrickson had the fastest 10-yard split among the first group of defensive ends, getting a 1.59 on his 4.65, an amazing number considering he measured in at 6-4, 266. Hendrickson, who excelled in the drills, also thrived in the other tests, turning in a 7.03 3-cone time and a 10-2 broad jump.

Tanoh Kpassagnon, DT, Villanova
Tanoh Kpassagnon must have a body-fat percentage of zero because he looked like an all-muscle freak athlete at 6-7, 289. His testing numbers were excellent, as he had a 1.69 10-yard split on his 40 (4.83). He also leapt 10-8 in the broad jump. His 3-cone time was slow (7.46), but not horrible. He made up for it in the drills, however. Kpassagnon looked like a sure-fire second-round pick.

Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn
Carl Lawson has drawn third-day grades from some teams, but they may re-think their stance after witnessing his athleticism. Lawson ran a 4.68 40 with a 1.60 10-yard split. Not bad for a 261-pound lineman! Lawson's other testing numbers were excellent (35 bench press reps, 33-inch vertical), though his 3-cone time was slow (7.46). Lawson's worst moment came at the weigh-in, where he was confirmed to be 6-2, so he could be considered a tweener. Still, his great athleticism may have teams wondering how they can fit him into their scheme.

Haason Reddikk, DE/OLB/ILB, Temple
No one, save for possibly Zay Jones, has helped himself more during the entire pre-draft process than Haason Reddikk. The Temple product dominated the Senior Bowl, then somehow was even better at the combine. Reddikk blazed a 4.52 40 with a 1.59 10-yard split. He leapt an 11-1 broad jump and a 36.5-inch vertical to go along with posting an excellent 3-cone time of 7.01. Reddikk did not disappoint in the drills, displaying great athleticism throughout the afternoon. It'll actually be surprising to me if Reddikk isn't chosen in the first round.

Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown
Derek Rivers was seen as a smart technician with some explosion heading into the combine, but I don't think anyone had any idea of how athletic he could be. Rivers was amazing, running a 4.61 40 with a 1.61 10-yard split. He also posted a blazing 6.94 in the 3-cone, as well as a 35-inch vertical to go along with a 10-3 broad jump. Not bad at all for a 250-pound defensive end! Rivers looks to be a second-round prospect who could possibly hear his name called Thursday night.

Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
Solomon Thomas was expected to thrive in Indianapolis, and he did just that. He ran a 4.69 with a 1.66 10-yard split, which is terrific for a man his size (6-3, 273). He also happened to post great numbers elsewhere, including 6.95 in the 3-cone, 35 inches in the vertical and 10-6 in the broad jump. Thomas naturally excelled in the drills as well. He's looking like a top-10 prospect.

Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State
Jordan Willis was one of the big winners among the defensive linemen at the combine. His athleticism testing was off the charts, as he ran a 4.53 with a positional-best 1.54 10-yard split. He also topped the list in the 3-cone (6.85), all while excelling in the jumps (10-5 broad, 39-inch vertical). Willis was awesome the drills, looking extremely fluid. He's definitely shooting up some draft boards in the wake of this performance.

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Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU
Davon Godchaux posted a horrible 40 of 5.27, with a 1.84 10-yard split. He didn't get a chance to make it up in the drills because he pulled his hamstring and had to be removed. Godchaux will have to excel at the LSU pro day, or he'll be banished to the middle of Day 3.

Charles Harris, DE, Missouri
Much was expected out of the defensive linemen during Sunday's combine performance, but several in the first group disappointed. Charles Harris was one such player. His 40 (4.82) needed to be much faster, considering he's just 6-3, 253. He also posted an epically slow 3-cone time of 7.47, while his broad jump of 9-1 was about what some defensive tackles achieved. Harris may have fallen out of the first round.

Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame
Jarron Jones had an all-around bad day at the combine. He began by running a 5.33, which wasn't even the worst part. At 316 pounds, Jones wasn't expected to run quickly. His vertical of 20.5 inches was worse, as he probably would've been beaten out by half the field had he been tested on the moon. Jones also struggled big time in the drills. He looked like a late-round prospect.

Garrett Sickels, DE, Penn State
Garrett Sickels shockingly declared for the 2017 NFL Draft, and it's appearing as though he has made a terrible decision. Sickels recorded some of the worst combine results for a defensive end his size in nearly two decades, particularly the vertical (28 inches) and broad jump (8-9). Sickels wasn't much better in the 40 (4.90), though his 3-cone (7.21) wasn't horrible. Still, Sickels' glaring lack of athleticism will cost him, and he could fall into the final rounds.

Tim Williams, DE/OLB, Alabama
Charlie Campbell was the first to report that Tim Williams had some glaring off-the-field issues. Williams admitted to the media during the combine that he had been arrested for drugs, but didn't reveal how many times. Williams' poor showing continued on the field, where he ran a lackluster 4.68 40 and posted a horrible 7.36 3-cone time.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

OJ Howard had the best 3 cone, 20 yd shuttle and 60 yd shuttle times for the TE's. Awesome since Engram was there too. 4.51 forty time as well would have been first if not for Engram who is a WR. Pretty damn impressive for 6'6'' 251

Top 10 pick locked up

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

Tanoh Kpassagnon, DT, Villanova
Tanoh Kpassagnon must have a body-fat percentage of zero because he looked like an all-muscle freak athlete at 6-7, 289. His testing numbers were excellent, as he had a 1.69 10-yard split on his 40 (4.83). He also leapt 10-8 in the broad jump. His 3-cone time was slow (7.46), but not horrible. He made up for it in the drills, however. Kpassagnon looked like a sure-fire second-round pick.

Tanoh is going late first/early 2nd to the Raiders, Steelers, Eagles, Bucs or Patriots imo

 

[dh86]

Peppers is the 7th best safety in the draft. He won't go until the 2nd round. U can write that one down too if u want

Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
Rank entering combine: No. 18 overall | No. 3 safety

Peppers worked out with the linebackers, but based on his size (nearly 5-foot-11 and 213 pounds), he will play more of a strong safety/nickel role in the pros. (He'd need to be in the 230 range to play weakside linebacker.) Peppers has elite straight-line speed (4.46 40-yard dash), and he showed good lower-body power in the vertical (35.5 inches, above average) and broad jump (10 feet, 8 inches, outstanding at any position). I thought he looked really comfortable going through linebacker coverage drills, too. He opted to workout with the defensive backs tomorrow, as well, so we'll get to see how fluid he looks there. Peppers' decision to stick around an extra day is emblematic of his competitiveness and motor. Talk to anyone at Michigan, and the first thing they'll tell you about Peppers is that he's just tireless. I really believe he has the stamina to be a contributor on defense, special teams and offense at the next level. He's a first-round talent in my book. Not everyone shares that opinion, but he'll add a ton to whichever team that drafts him.

Who can listen to McShay's assessment when we can listen to YOU

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
Rank entering combine: No. 18 overall | No. 3 safety

Peppers worked out with the linebackers, but based on his size (nearly 5-foot-11 and 213 pounds), he will play more of a strong safety/nickel role in the pros. (He'd need to be in the 230 range to play weakside linebacker.) Peppers has elite straight-line speed (4.46 40-yard dash), and he showed good lower-body power in the vertical (35.5 inches, above average) and broad jump (10 feet, 8 inches, outstanding at any position). I thought he looked really comfortable going through linebacker coverage drills, too. He opted to workout with the defensive backs tomorrow, as well, so we'll get to see how fluid he looks there. Peppers' decision to stick around an extra day is emblematic of his competitiveness and motor. Talk to anyone at Michigan, and the first thing they'll tell you about Peppers is that he's just tireless. I really believe he has the stamina to be a contributor on defense, special teams and offense at the next level. He's a first-round talent in my book. Not everyone shares that opinion, but he'll add a ton to whichever team that drafts him.

Who can listen to McShay's assessment when we can listen to YOU

McShay and Kipers mock drafts are always fukking terrible lmao. I'm sure he had Peppers top 5 in his mock at some point tooFOH with that shyt. I stopped reading at elite speed, obviously he's trolling.

 

[dh86]

 

[dh86]

McShay and Kipers mock drafts are always fukking terrible lmao. I'm sure he had Peppers top 5 in his mock at some point tooFOH with that shyt. I stopped reading at elite speed, obviously he's trolling.

How many strong safeties topped 4.46 last year?

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

How many strong safeties topped 4.46 last year?

5 safeties did in a weak class and the best safeties didn't run.. Lots of corners did.

Peppers is at best the 4th best safety behind Hooker, Adams and Baker I think almost everyone would agree. McShay is a joke. And I have John Johnson and Marcus Maye above Peppers too b/c they are more ready to come in and play safety right away. Then there are a lot of guys who are just as good or almost as good as Peppers. No reason to take a chance on a guy who didn't play safety in college in the first round when u can pick up a day 1 starting safety late 2nd/early 3rd. Its just logic.

 

[Swagnificent]

2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Running Backs

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James Conner, Pittsburgh
James Conner came back from cancer to have a solid 2016 campaign. He posted a 40 time similar to Corey Clement's (4.65), but did so at 233 pounds instead of 220. Conner was solid in the on-field workouts, but the best news came from his medical exam. He received a clean body scan a week prior to the combine, which is obviously fantastic news, both in football and real life.

Leonard Fournette, LSU
Dalvin Cook's loss was Leonard Fournette's gain, as there is very little doubt now that Fournette will be the first running back chosen in the 2017 NFL Draft. Fournette had his skeptics when he weighed in at 240 pounds and attributed that to water weight. Fournette then followed that up with a 28.5-inch vertical and a no-show in the broad jump. This prompted some in the national media, including the entire panel on Around the Horn, to declare that he was out of shape. In reality, Fournette looked great at 240 pounds, and he had a terrific 40 time (4.51) for a man his size. He also thrived in the on-field workouts. Fournette cemented his status as a top-10 pick, as he'll be chosen anywhere between No. 4 (Jacksonville) and No. 9 (Cincinnati).

Brian Hill, Wyoming
Brian Hill, did well to ensure that he'll be chosen on the second day of the 2017 NFL Draft. Hill ran a slightly faster 40 time than Gallman (4.54), but did so at about 220 pounds. He also notched better figures in the vertical (34), broad jump (10-5) and 3-cone (7.03). Most importantly, Hill had a solid showing in the on-field drills.

Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
Alvin Kamara was expected to run a faster 40 than he did (4.56), which was a bit disappointing at 5-10, 214. However, that was Kamara's only blemish in Indianapolis. He tested incredibly well elsewhere, posting terrific jumps (39.5 vertical, 10-11 broad). Kamara is very athletic and figures to be the fourth running back chosen in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Marlon Mack, South Florida
With Wayne Gallman likely moving out of second-day consideration, someone had to move in, and that someone could be Marlon Mack. The South Florida product thrived at the combine, as he displayed very good athleticism. His 40 isn't anything to write home about (4.50 at 5-11, 213), but he notched a 35.5-inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. Mack also thrived in the on-field workouts. Mack, who has drawn lots of interest from the Chiefs and Buccaneers, will likely be chosen in the second or third round.

Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Christian McCaffrey tested as one of the best running backs in Indianapolis, and it's very doubtful now that he'll fall out of the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft. In fact, the argument can be made that McCaffrey is closer to Dalvin Cook than Cook is to Leonard Fournette. McCaffrey recorded a sterling 3-cone time of 6.57, the second-fastest result for a running back since 2003. He did this while recording a 37.5-inch vertical and 10-1 broad jump. In my opinion, he was the best running back in the drills. It's difficult to envision him falling out of the top 24.

Jeremy McNichols, Boise State
Jeremy McNichols is an expert in pass protection, so he's assured of a prominent role in the NFL, as long as he's not horrible in other regards. Thus, any athleticism he showed at the combine would just icing on the cake. McNichols did just that, posting a very good 3-cone time (6.93), as well as solid jumps (35.5 vertical, 10-1 broad jump). He's definitely in second-day consideration.

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Corey Clement, Wisconsin
Corey Clement mailed in his 2015 campaign in Wisconsin and reportedly was generally unliked in the locker room, so he needed a great performance in Indianapolis to make talent evaluators forget about that. He accomplished the opposite, testing extremely poorly. He was very sluggish in the 40, running a 4.68 40 at 5-10, 220. He also had a poor vertical (28.5) and broad jump (9-7). Clement could be trending into undrafted territory.

Dalvin Cook, Florida State
Dalvin Cook was dominant at Florida State. In fact, he was so great that many believed he would pass Leonard Fournette in the 2017 NFL Draft. It's extremely difficult to envision that happening now in the wake of the combine. Cook tested so extremely poorly that conspiracy theorists may begin to believe that he was replaced by an evil, less-athletic twin after being kidnapped. Cook's 40 wasn't horrible (4.49 at 210 pounds), but it wasn't good, and it certainly didn't make up for his awful vertical (30.5), broad jump (9-8) and 3-cone time (7.27). Sports analytics say that a running back as unathletic as Cook hasn't been drafted in the first round in nearly two decades.

Wayne Gallman, Clemson
There are lots of running backs to compete with for a second-day designation, and based on what happened in Indianapolis, Wayne Gallman could now be picked in Round 4 or later. Gallman tested poorly, running a 4.60 at 6-0, 215. His vertical (29.5) and 3-cone (7.17) weren't very good either.

I remember people thinking I was crazy when I ranked Dalvin Cook as low as I did. The guy is overrated. Plain and simple. Kamara is light years better than him.

The top 4 RBs in this class are:

1. Alvin Kamara (Tennessee)
2. Christian McCaffrey (Stanford)
3. Joe Mixon (Oklahoma)
4. James Conner (Pittsburgh)

Fournette and Cook are not worthy of first round picks.

 

[Thegospel]

5 safeties did in a weak class and the best safeties didn't run.. Lots of corners did.

Peppers is at best the 4th best safety behind Hooker, Adams and Baker I think almost everyone would agree. McShay is a joke. And I have John Johnson and Marcus Maye above Peppers too b/c they are more ready to come in and play safety right away. Then there are a lot of guys who are just as good or almost as good as Peppers. No reason to take a chance on a guy who didn't play safety in college in the first round when u can pick up a day 1 starting safety late 2nd/early 3rd. Its just logic.

lol todd mcshay.

 

[Thegospel]

I remember people thinking I was crazy when I ranked Dalvin Cook as low as I did. The guy is overrated. Plain and simple. Kamara is light years better than him.

The top 4 RBs in this class are:

1. Alvin Kamara (Tennessee)
2. Christian McCaffrey (Stanford)
3. Joe Mixon (Oklahoma)
4. James Conner (Pittsburgh)

Fournette and Cook are not worthy of first round picks.

nikkas trollin nonstop in here

 

[smitty22]

(Coughs). nikkas don't be listening to me though

I hear you