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funkee said:
I've watched every duke game multiple times for the last too many years. he is an equal shooter when healthy (he had a bad hip, shoulder, foot/toe, ankle, and dislocated L finger throughout the year). by the end of the year, he was actually shooting better than kennard. his sophomore year percentages are comparable, and the eye test shows he is an equal shooter. yes the draft is deep but a player like him who can shoot and match that athletically would have a chance to move up taking into consideration how good he looked as a healthy sophomore. He easily could've gone first round. and in terms of size, he's 6'4.5" and kennard 6'5.5", but kennard has a 6'5" wingspan compared to allen's 6'7". not to mention weight, strength, athleticism advantage. comparing their sizes is a moot point. and you clearly didn't watch duke games enough if you think he's anywhere clsoe to as bad a defender as kennard is. he was better even when he was basically plauing on 1 leg for a quarter to a third of the season.
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he's not an equal shooter, he was a streaky shooter over the course of his career. He did get hot after coach K came back (after being benched several times during Capel, who recognized that Duke wasn't gonna win with Kennard and Allen taking all the shots and being in the game the entire time cuz of the defense).

Allen is a short 6'4 and would play SG, he looked horrible tryign to play PG. Compared to Kennard who has reliable handles and actually looked Scheyer-esque when running the team. Kennard creates his own shot , while Grayson if he can't turn the corner cannot create his own shot, especially against good defenders. He wasn't playing on 1 leg, you're overstating his injury ..everyone has injuries .

You win breh, I didn't watch any games - and you are an NCAA scout and watched Duke games mutliple times. You win the pissing match...there's a reason Allen isn't in the draft....smh

Grayson Allen's NBA draft stock is falling because of his play, not his tripping


NBA executives aren’t concerned with Duke guard Grayson Allen’s tripping incidents of late. They’re more worried that his production has regressed since entering the season as the consensus No. 1 player in college basketball.

ESPN.com’s Jeff Goodman interviewed a dozen NBA scouts and general managers and found they aren’t holding Allen’s recent controversies against him. The bigger issue is he’s no longer performing like the same player who was an All-American as a sophomore.

"The tripping incidents don't bother me at all," one league GM told ESPN. "It's the fact that he hasn't played well this year when he's been on the court."

"[The tripping is] irrelevant to me," another GM added. "To me, it's all about whether he is good enough to play in our league -- and I'm not so sure of that."
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Good pickup by Pacers...


Leaf was really good in HS if I remember.. Actually played against Lonzo in HS then with him for McDonalds allstars and UCLA.


He did good at finishing for Lonzo... Some of those assists don't matter if Leaf doesn't hit a lot of those shots
 
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