The Official 2012-13 Oakland Raiders Thread
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fukk it, he was going head to head with Cam. Let's give him that chance and just cut ties ASAP with Palmer. And continue to tank this season, even next season if we have to, get rid of the salary cap killers, than we might be on the right track hopefully.
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Need to put that nikka in on redzone situations. He can't stink it up that bad out there. Dude athletic as shyt but they not using him at all.
Who knows maybe Reece and Jones splitting carries against the Ravens will work out. I think Jones just need more carries so he can just relax and get used to game situations. You can tell he's nervous out there when he gets in and thats when the fumbles happen. Reece starting at halfback 
and Jones spelling him from time to time should work until McFadden & Goodson are ready.Richard Seymour missed his second straight day of practice Thursday with a hamstring injury, and the veteran defensive tackle is not sure if hell even be a game-time decision Sunday in Baltimore. I dont know, Im not sure, Seymour said. Hammies are tough. Ive had them throughout my career. The only thing you can do is work hard. When its ready Ill be back.
Allen has had a tendency to take an overly cautious approach at times with some of his injured players but the rookie head coach made it clear thats not the case with Seymour. He couldnt practice today if he had to, Allen said flatly. Well see where he is tomorrow.
If Seymour cant play, the Raiders would be forced to use a patchwork lineup that also has some health issues. Backup defensive tackle Desmond Bryant was pulled out of last weeks loss to Tampa Bay with an irregular heartbeat, while defensive ends Matt Shaughnessy and Dave Tollefson are nursing sore shoulders. The Raiders need all the healthy bodies they can find if they are to have any hope of slowing down Rice, a two-time Pro Bowl running back who is fifth in the AFC in rushing with 622 yards and six touchdowns.
It doesnt help that Oakland is coming off its worst showing of the season after allowing Tampa Bay rookie Doug Martin to rush for four touchdowns and a franchise record 251 yards. We have two second halves of football games this year in our eight games where we didnt tackle well, defensive coordinator Jason Tarver said. Its about run fits and mechanics and those things that we talk about all the time.
Sometimes you learn what to do and sometimes you learn what not to do, both in coaching and in life. Sometimes things are bad, this is what we tell the players about, what you do with bad, you turn it into good. What do you do with good, you turn it into great.
Allen has had a tendency to take an overly cautious approach at times with some of his injured players but the rookie head coach made it clear thats not the case with Seymour. He couldnt practice today if he had to, Allen said flatly. Well see where he is tomorrow.
If Seymour cant play, the Raiders would be forced to use a patchwork lineup that also has some health issues. Backup defensive tackle Desmond Bryant was pulled out of last weeks loss to Tampa Bay with an irregular heartbeat, while defensive ends Matt Shaughnessy and Dave Tollefson are nursing sore shoulders. The Raiders need all the healthy bodies they can find if they are to have any hope of slowing down Rice, a two-time Pro Bowl running back who is fifth in the AFC in rushing with 622 yards and six touchdowns.
It doesnt help that Oakland is coming off its worst showing of the season after allowing Tampa Bay rookie Doug Martin to rush for four touchdowns and a franchise record 251 yards. We have two second halves of football games this year in our eight games where we didnt tackle well, defensive coordinator Jason Tarver said. Its about run fits and mechanics and those things that we talk about all the time.
Sometimes you learn what to do and sometimes you learn what not to do, both in coaching and in life. Sometimes things are bad, this is what we tell the players about, what you do with bad, you turn it into good. What do you do with good, you turn it into great.
BayArea Breez
GOAT Defensive Raider
I could see Reece and Jones having a solid game because of the Ravens inability to stop the run... however I see the same for Ray Rice
I like the under and think the Raiders can squeak one out with Jano FTW FG
Trojan 24
Veteran
Richard Seymour missed his second straight day of practice Thursday with a hamstring injury, and the veteran defensive tackle is not sure if hell even be a game-time decision Sunday in Baltimore. I dont know, Im not sure, Seymour said. Hammies are tough. Ive had them throughout my career. The only thing you can do is work hard. When its ready Ill be back.
Allen has had a tendency to take an overly cautious approach at times with some of his injured players but the rookie head coach made it clear thats not the case with Seymour. He couldnt practice today if he had to, Allen said flatly. Well see where he is tomorrow.
If Seymour cant play, the Raiders would be forced to use a patchwork lineup that also has some health issues. Backup defensive tackle Desmond Bryant was pulled out of last weeks loss to Tampa Bay with an irregular heartbeat, while defensive ends Matt Shaughnessy and Dave Tollefson are nursing sore shoulders. The Raiders need all the healthy bodies they can find if they are to have any hope of slowing down Rice, a two-time Pro Bowl running back who is fifth in the AFC in rushing with 622 yards and six touchdowns.
It doesnt help that Oakland is coming off its worst showing of the season after allowing Tampa Bay rookie Doug Martin to rush for four touchdowns and a franchise record 251 yards. We have two second halves of football games this year in our eight games where we didnt tackle well, defensive coordinator Jason Tarver said. Its about run fits and mechanics and those things that we talk about all the time.
Sometimes you learn what to do and sometimes you learn what not to do, both in coaching and in life. Sometimes things are bad, this is what we tell the players about, what you do with bad, you turn it into good. What do you do with good, you turn it into great.
Seymour is done. Get him out. At the very least i thought he would help the D Line by being a leader and helping the young guys out. But half the time he's the one getting penalties and doing dumb shyt.
Rice going to get his 300 yards rushing against us.
Hopefully our offense will come to play and we can get a couple turnovers and turn those into scores.Waste of bread. Not worth what they paying him.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
yet its right 
Oakland Raiders' Taiwan Jones expected to get chance on Sunday - San Jose Mercury News
ALAMEDA -- Taiwan Jones has gotten nowhere fast.
Marcel Reece has excelled out of the backfield doing just about everything but running the ball.
Together, Jones and Reece form an unlikely tandem for the Raiders at running back when they visit the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson each spent the day in protective boots, nursing high right ankle sprains. Coach Dennis Allen hasn't ruled them out, but the Raiders are making plans to play without them.
"We'll play to the strengths of the backs we're going to use," offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said.
Rather than bring in a running back for a tryout Tuesday, Allen said they liked their in-house candidates -- which could also include practice squad player Jeremy Stewart.
For Jones, the second-year player from Antioch's Deer Valley High and Eastern Washington, it represents an opportunity to get out of the starting blocks.
"I'm definitely excited. There's an opportunity for me to extend my role on the team," Jones said. "I'm getting the opportunity so I want to make the most of it."
At 6-foot, 197 pounds, Jones may be the fastest player on the Raiders, who used a fourth-round draft pick on him in 2011 in large part because he ran a 4.3 40-yard dash at his pro day at Los Medanos College in Pittsburgh.
Knapp said Jones is one of the fastest players he's ever coached, and cornerback Michael Huff says he has more speed than either Darrius Heyward-Bey or Jacoby Ford, two wide receivers known for their world-class speed.
"You can't tell how fast he's running until you're up on him," Huff said. "By then he's out-run your angle and it's really too late."
Jones has been slowed by hamstring, rib and knee injuries that have cropped up periodically, plus ball-security issues that were cited by both Allen and Knapp.
There have also been some missed assignments, which Knapp attributes to missed practice time because of the injuries.
Quarterback Carson Palmer sounds as if he expects to see a lot of Jones, and to say he's looking forward to it is an understatement.
"He does amazing things in practice, he's by far the fastest person on the field and he will be fastest person on the field on Sunday," Palmer said. "Not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I'm excited about the opportunity he's getting.
"He'll get his touches and I can't wait. He's so electrifying. He puts his foot in the ground and goes. He wiggles out of hits, he wiggles out of tackles. I can't wait to throw him the ball, get him in the open field."
Originally a defensive back in college, Jones moved to running back and gained 2,955 yards on 383 carries and scored 29 touchdowns.
His work as a special teams gunner intrigued Allen enough that he admitted he's toyed with the idea of making him a defensive back, a notion Jones could put to rest with some breakaway runs in McFadden's absence.
Reece, although he played as the lone back in a single back set for more than a quarter against Tampa Bay, carried just once for two yards but has made a name for himself as a receiver out of the backfield.
Against the Bucs, Reece had a career-high eight catches for 95 yards.
"I feel comfortable doing anything in this offense," Reece said. "They've prepared me a long time ago to do anything in this offense and I'm prepared to do it. Whatever happens on Sunday, whatever they ask me to do I'm going to go do it."
ALAMEDA -- Taiwan Jones has gotten nowhere fast.
Marcel Reece has excelled out of the backfield doing just about everything but running the ball.
Together, Jones and Reece form an unlikely tandem for the Raiders at running back when they visit the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium.
Running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson each spent the day in protective boots, nursing high right ankle sprains. Coach Dennis Allen hasn't ruled them out, but the Raiders are making plans to play without them.
"We'll play to the strengths of the backs we're going to use," offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said.
Rather than bring in a running back for a tryout Tuesday, Allen said they liked their in-house candidates -- which could also include practice squad player Jeremy Stewart.
For Jones, the second-year player from Antioch's Deer Valley High and Eastern Washington, it represents an opportunity to get out of the starting blocks.
"I'm definitely excited. There's an opportunity for me to extend my role on the team," Jones said. "I'm getting the opportunity so I want to make the most of it."
At 6-foot, 197 pounds, Jones may be the fastest player on the Raiders, who used a fourth-round draft pick on him in 2011 in large part because he ran a 4.3 40-yard dash at his pro day at Los Medanos College in Pittsburgh.
Knapp said Jones is one of the fastest players he's ever coached, and cornerback Michael Huff says he has more speed than either Darrius Heyward-Bey or Jacoby Ford, two wide receivers known for their world-class speed.
"You can't tell how fast he's running until you're up on him," Huff said. "By then he's out-run your angle and it's really too late."
Jones has been slowed by hamstring, rib and knee injuries that have cropped up periodically, plus ball-security issues that were cited by both Allen and Knapp.
There have also been some missed assignments, which Knapp attributes to missed practice time because of the injuries.
Quarterback Carson Palmer sounds as if he expects to see a lot of Jones, and to say he's looking forward to it is an understatement.
"He does amazing things in practice, he's by far the fastest person on the field and he will be fastest person on the field on Sunday," Palmer said. "Not that you want to see guys get banged up, but I'm excited about the opportunity he's getting.
"He'll get his touches and I can't wait. He's so electrifying. He puts his foot in the ground and goes. He wiggles out of hits, he wiggles out of tackles. I can't wait to throw him the ball, get him in the open field."
Originally a defensive back in college, Jones moved to running back and gained 2,955 yards on 383 carries and scored 29 touchdowns.
His work as a special teams gunner intrigued Allen enough that he admitted he's toyed with the idea of making him a defensive back, a notion Jones could put to rest with some breakaway runs in McFadden's absence.
Reece, although he played as the lone back in a single back set for more than a quarter against Tampa Bay, carried just once for two yards but has made a name for himself as a receiver out of the backfield.
Against the Bucs, Reece had a career-high eight catches for 95 yards.
"I feel comfortable doing anything in this offense," Reece said. "They've prepared me a long time ago to do anything in this offense and I'm prepared to do it. Whatever happens on Sunday, whatever they ask me to do I'm going to go do it."
I thought Spencer was supposed to comeback this year.
Raiders activate CB Ron Bartell
ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders have activated cornerback Ron Bartell from short-term injured reserve and promoted running back Jeremy Stewart from the practice squad.
To make room on the 53-man roster the Raiders waived cornerback Pat Lee on Saturday and placed cornerback Shawntae Spencer on season-ending injured reserve.
Bartell had been out since breaking his left shoulder blade in the season opener. Lee took his place in the starting lineup the past seven games but was cut when Bartell returned for Sunday's game in Baltimore.
Stewart provides insurance at running back with starter Darren McFadden and backup Mike Goodson out with sprained right ankles.
Spencer has been out since Week 2 with a sprained right foot that didn't heal as quickly as hoped.
Raiders activate CB Ron Bartell
ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders have activated cornerback Ron Bartell from short-term injured reserve and promoted running back Jeremy Stewart from the practice squad.
To make room on the 53-man roster the Raiders waived cornerback Pat Lee on Saturday and placed cornerback Shawntae Spencer on season-ending injured reserve.
Bartell had been out since breaking his left shoulder blade in the season opener. Lee took his place in the starting lineup the past seven games but was cut when Bartell returned for Sunday's game in Baltimore.
Stewart provides insurance at running back with starter Darren McFadden and backup Mike Goodson out with sprained right ankles.
Spencer has been out since Week 2 with a sprained right foot that didn't heal as quickly as hoped.
Right when I turn on the TV for this game, its a 4 and 1 and Palmer slips and we turn the ball over 
DHB!!