The new Saudi Arabia Golf Tour aka LIV Thread

[Professor Emeritus]

Monahan real quiet on roe v wade. Guess women's rights only matter when talking about the competition

You motherfukkers are transparent as fukk.

Abortion isn't about a woman's choice, it's about whether or not the zygote/fetus is human yet. It's the reason late term abortions are banned, and no one is out protesting trying to get them back

How can you fukk someone that aborted your baby? Not to get self-righteous about abortion just seems like a big turnoff lol

That's literally all you've ever said about abortion on this forum, and I've never once seen you talk about Roe v. Wade at all, but suddenly you're going to turn around and pretend it's a woman's rights issue to you?

At some point y'all just gotta admit that you care about sports more than you care about human rights and stop the fake posturing.

 

[Brozay]

Ok lemme clarify my Rory comment. I was being hyperbolic. He’s one of the top golfers but he’s at a point now where only major wins are what matters. The most compelling question for Rory is whether or not he can finally win a Masters. I’m not tuning in to watch Rory win a random PGA tour event.

well that literally applies for every golf that isn’t Tiger

 

[GunRanger]

You motherfukkers are transparent as fukk.






That's literally all you've ever said about abortion on this forum, and I've never once seen you talk about Roe v. Wade at all, but suddenly you're going to turn around and pretend it's a woman's rights issue to you?

At some point y'all just gotta admit that you care about sports more than you care about human rights and stop the fake posturing.

Youre a dumb fukk. Im pointing out monahan's phony concern about women's rights when talking about LIV. I dont give a shyt about Saudi Arabia's politics when discussing LIV. The Saudi fund is invested in all types of things already in the US. Bringing up their politics was always a canard by the PGA to shame players instead of improving the tour. Since youre checking posts, check the LIV threads.

And none of those posts you quoted contradict anything I said previously.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Youre a dumb fukk. Im pointing out monahan's phony concern about women's rights when talking about LIV.

You said yourself that neither you nor they see it as a women's rights issue. So how can you turn around and lie and claim it is indisputably a women's rights issue? You're openly contradicting yourself.

Someone can not have a position on abortion and still think it's wrong to ban women from driving or going outside without males or wearing anything other than a burqa in public. That's not an inherent contradiction. But you claiming that abortion isn't about women's choice and then turning around and claiming it's an essential women's rights issue is blatant hypocrisy.

 

[GunRanger]

You said yourself that neither you nor they see it as a women's rights issue. So how can you turn around and lie and claim it is indisputably a women's rights issue? You're openly contradicting yourself.

Someone can not have a position on abortion and still think it's wrong to ban women from driving or going outside without males or wearing anything other than a burqa in public. That's not an inherent contradiction. But you claiming that abortion isn't about women's choice and then turning around and claiming it's an essential women's rights issue is blatant hypocrisy.

Because it's always been framed as a women's rights issue. Dont be dense. Me pointing out that late term abortions being banned was inconsistent with a women' choice argument doesnt contradict that.


This isnt some gotcha. Youre wrong and Monahan backed himself into a hypocritical corner by now ignoring the issues in this country in order to sully the competition

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Wonder if any other big names will join

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Because it's always been framed as a women's rights issue. Dont be dense. Me pointing out that late term abortions being banned was inconsistent with a women' choice argument doesnt contradict that.


This isnt some gotcha. Youre wrong and Monahan backed himself into a hypocritical corner by now ignoring the issues in this country in order to sully the competition

lol - you have no clue what hypocrisy is.

Once again, you can be against women being confined to the home without having a position on abortion. They're two separate issues. It is not hypocritical to have your own stance on different issues, and to claim that everyone who is against women being confined to the home must therefore support mandated legal abortion is childish shyt.

However, you ARE hypocritical cause you straight up said that abortion is not a women's rights issue, and how you're turning around and saying that abortion HAS to be a women's rights issue. You can't have it both ways.

Like I said, why not just being honest and admit that you care about sports more than you care about human rights? You virtually never talk seriously about human rights in any country unless it's in the context of a sports conversation, so why pose otherwise now?

 

[GunRanger]

lol - you have no clue what hypocrisy is.

Once again, you can be against women being confined to the home without having a position on abortion. They're two separate issues. It is not hypocritical to have your own stance on different issues, and to claim that everyone who is against women being confined to the home must therefore support mandated legal aborti
However, you ARE hypocritical cause you straight up said that abortion is not a women's rights issue, and how you're turning around and saying that abortion HAS to be a women's rights issue. You can't have it both ways.

Like I said, why not just being honest and admit that you care about sports more than you care about human rights? You virtually never talk seriously about human rights in any country unless it's in the context of a sports conversation, so why pose otherwise now?

I said abortion wasnt about a woman's right to choose, it was about fetus viability. I never said it wasnt a women's rights issue. Youre dishonest and incapable of admitting youre wrong.


You keep trying to frame it like it's human rights or sports. I already said I dont care about Saudi's politics in relation to LIV. It's irrelevant. It's no different than using Uber. People who support, or dont care, if guys join LIV werent the ones bringing up human rights to sidetrack the convo. It was pro PGA people. The obligation is on them to not ignore issues and be consistent.


And now that the politics slander didnt work, the PGA is making changes to try and retain stars which is what they shouldve done years ago

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I said abortion wasnt about a woman's right to choose, it was about fetus viability. I never said it wasnt a women's rights issue. Youre dishonest and incapable of admitting youre wrong.

If it's not about a woman's right to choose then it's not a women's rights issue. You're flailing.

You have NEVER called abortion a women's rights issue until today. The projection is incredible.

You keep trying to frame it like it's human rights or sports. I already said I dont care about Saudi's politics in relation to LIV. It's irrelevant. It's no different than using Uber. People who support, or dont care, if guys join LIV werent the ones bringing up human rights to sidetrack the convo. It was pro PGA people. The obligation is on them to not ignore issues and be consistent.

If you don't care about human rights, then stop being disingenuous and trying to make these terrible and hypocritical human rights arguments. Just admit that you don't care if Saudi Arabia uses LIV to sportswash atrocities and human rights violations.

 

[GunRanger]

If it's not about a woman's right to choose then it's not a women's rights issue. You're flailing.

You have NEVER called abortion a women's rights issue until today. The projection is incredible.

What are you talking about? What part of any of those posts exclude abortion from women's rights? It all falls under the umbrella. Thats already understood but you lack any nuance so of course it's black and white to you.

Me pointing out that fetus viability superseded choice, by law, doesnt mean that women ddidnt have the choice, it just means one was greater than the other. They were free to do whatever they want up until a certain point. There is no contradiction.

If you don't care about human rights, then stop being disingenuous and trying to make these terrible and hypocritical human rights arguments. Just admit that you don't care if Saudi Arabia uses LIV to sportswash atrocities and human rights violations.

This is why youre one of the worst posters on this board. This kind of disingenuous schtick. fukk outta here. Repeating the same point when it's been answered doesnt make you right no matter what you think.

Youre good at digging up posts but cant fukking read. I already said what it is. Yet it seems people attacking LIV have no opinion but trying to appeal to emotions.

 

[MikelArteta]

why are 9/11 survivor families upset?

US is in bed with saudi

 

[CarltonJunior]

There is no cut with LIV golf.

Last place guy shot +24 and earned $120,000

His career earnings prior was $38,000

It's time for me to suit up

 

[Copy Ninja]

They got Matt Wolff. I think that's a huge signing. He, along with Morikawa and Hovland came in the same year with a lot of hype. He's younger than both of them, won in this third tournament and came in the top 5 twice in the majors in his first year.

He's got the the talent to be the best in the world but dude has been dealing with mental issues the past year and a half. He's only 23 years old. I think he couldn't deal with all the attention too quick.

Bro really said in an interview after he signed with LIV that he likes the fact he can shoot 90 and still get paid

 

[Rocket Scientist]

They got Matt Wolff. I think that's a huge signing. He, along with Morikawa and Hovland came in the same year with a lot of hype. He's younger than both of them, won in this third tournament and came in the top 5 twice in the majors in his first year.

He's got the the talent to be the best in the world but dude has been dealing with mental issues the past year and a half. He's only 23 years old. I think he couldn't deal with all the attention too quick.

Bro really said in an interview after he signed with LIV that he likes the fact he can shoot 90 and still get paid

Thats huge signing. This league might be perfect for him. It would be funny if Morikawa joined later.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Thats huge signing. This league might be perfect for him. It would be funny if Morikawa joined later.

Yeah that would be huge. Between him, Rahm, and Scheffler, all under 30 and look like they're gonna add more majors to their resume. They would be big losses.