The Naismith Basketball hall of fame class of 2025 is out. Headlined by Carmelo Anthony. Others include Maya Moore, Sue Bird & D-Howard

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No I don’t and that’s exactly my point. Buck Williams gets a nod but Marbury can’t get any recognition?
Buck Williams and Marques Johnson are not in the Basketball HOF.

edit: I see what you are saying. He is a finalist, which is way above what he was, IMO.

Marques Johnson shoulda been in the HOF and has a better case than Marbury. He was the first point forward and was a legit great player.
 

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I HATE the concept of Euro dudes playing overseas against lesser comp but getting in bc ——iTs the bBaLl hALl of fAMe. Bc , no, it’s really not. Mike James or Trajan Langdon aren’t making the hall of fame for their illustrious euro careers.

This was a loophole for a specific period of time when guys couldn’t get to the league easily. Kukoc, Dino Radja, Marcellionas, etc. It was a niche period of time that is never happening again. Since that time it’s your NBA career that determines HOF. Ricky Rubio is not making the hall of fame. Rudy Fernandez is not making the hall of fame. Carlos arroyo is not making the hall of fame

With that said, Marbury had just enough NBA success and was a next level icon in China so he should be the last player that gets in for international contributions
 

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I HATE the concept of Euro dudes playing overseas against lesser comp but getting in bc ——iTs the bBaLl hALl of fAMe. Bc , no, it’s really not. Mike James or Trajan Langdon aren’t making the hall of fame for their illustrious euro careers.

This was a loophole for a specific period of time when guys couldn’t get to the league easily. Kukoc, Dino Radja, Marcellionas, etc. It was a niche period of time that is never happening again. Since that time it’s your NBA career that determines HOF. Ricky Rubio is not making the hall of fame. Rudy Fernandez is not making the hall of fame. Carlos arroyo is not making the hall of fame

With that said, Marbury had just enough NBA success and was a next level icon in China so he should be the last player that gets in for international contributions

KUKOC CAME OVER WHEN
HE WAS 25 AND PLAYED 13 YEARS.

HE PUTS TOGETHER A NBA HOF CAREER
IF HE COMES OVER 3 SEASONS LATER?

RADJA IS AN ABSOLUTE JOKE
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KUKOC CAME OVER WHEN
HE WAS 25 AND PLAYED 13 YEARS.

HE PUTS TOGETHER A NBA HOF CAREER
IF HE COMES OVER 3 SEASONS LATER?

RADJA IS AN ABSOLUTE JOKE
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Yea it’s a long list of guys who got that benefit of the doubt should not be in.

Radja, Marcellonas, like let me get this straight you came over in your prime, didn’t play at an HOF level, but essentially got a waiver implying ‘if they woulda played sooner they woulda been HOF’. The only player it should apply is Sabonis and Oscar Schmidt types. Shouldn’t even apply to Kukoc either

Thr worst is Vlade divac. He came over at 21 had a mid career but made the HOF literally only bc he was foreign. It’d be like putting Serge Ibaka or Luol Deng in the hall which of course they won’t and shouldn’t
 

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Yea it’s a long list of guys who got that benefit of the doubt should not be in.

Radja, Marcellonas, like let me get this straight you came over in your prime, didn’t play at an HOF level, but essentially got a waiver implying ‘if they woulda played sooner they woulda been HOF’. The only player it should apply is Sabonis and Oscar Schmidt types. Shouldn’t even apply to Kukoc either

Thr worst is Vlade divac. He came over at 21 had a mid career but made the HOF literally only bc he was foreign. It’d be like putting Serge Ibaka or Luol Deng in the hall which of course they won’t and shouldn’t

:mindblown: VLADE GOT IN?

NAH LET MARBURY IN ASAP
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Congrats to melo and the others.

Melo has gotten much more cozier with the media these days and its the opposite with Dwight.

But Dwight 100% deserves to the headliner of this HOF class.
 
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starbury absolutely should be in the naismith. growing the game in china is one of the most important developments in basketball.
Is it? What came from it? Do we have an influx of Chinese talent making it's way to the league? Do we ever hear anything about Chinese ball besides people joking washed up players need to learn chinese?
I'm genuinely curious what made it so important because I gotta be missing something.
 
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