The Man Who Created AIDS

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC190237/

It has been proposed that human immunodeficiency virus type 2 (HIV-2) originated from simian immunodeficiency viruses (SIVs) that are natural infections of sooty mangabeys (Cercocebus torquatus atys). To test this hypothesis, SIVs from eight sooty mangabeys, including six new viruses from West Africa, were genetically characterized. gag and env sequences showed that while the viruses of all eight sooty mangabeys belonged to the SIVsm/HIV-2 family, each was widely divergent from SIVs found earlier in captive monkeys at American primate centers. In two SIVs from sooty mangabeys discovered about 100 miles (ca. 161 Km) from each other in rural West Africa, the amino acids of a conserved gag p17-p26 region differed by 19.3%, a divergence greater than that in four of five clades of HIV-2 and in SIVs found in other African monkey species. Analysis of gag region sequences showed that feral mangabeys in one small troop harbored four distinct SIVs. Three of the newly found viruses were genetically divergent, showing as much genetic distance from each other as from the entire SIVsm/HIV-2 family. Sequencing and heteroduplex analysis of one feral animal-derived SIV showed a mosaic genome containing an env gene that was homologous with other feral SIVsm env genes in the troop but having a gag gene from another, distinct SIV. Surprisingly a gag phylogenetic tree based on nucleotide sequences showed that the African relatives closest to all three household-derived SIVs were HIV-2 subtypes D and E from humans in the same West African areas. In one case, the SIV/HIV-2 cluster was from the same village. The findings support the hypothesis that each HIV-2 subtype in West Africans originated from widely divergent SIVsm strains, transmitted by independent cross-species events in the same geographic locations.

 

[USSInsiders]

AIDS was developed and tested at Ft. Detrick and was infected in fakkits and Africans

 

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One more thing: the first HIV strains was discovered in 1959 which means the virus had already infiltrated humanity prior to our ability to manufacture viruses........

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18833279​

Direct Evidence of Extensive Diversity of HIV-1 in Kinshasa by 1960

Human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) sequences that pre-date the recognition of AIDS are critical to defining the time of origin and the timescale of virus evolution. A viral sequence from 1959 (ZR59) is the oldest known HIV-1 infection. Other historically documented sequences, important calibration points to convert evolutionary distance into time, are lacking, however; ZR59 is the only one sampled before 1976. Here we report the amplification and characterization of viral sequences from a Bouin's-fixed paraffin-embedded lymph node biopsy specimen obtained in 1960 from an adult female in Léopoldville, Belgian Congo (now Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC)), and we use them to conduct the first comparative evolutionary genetic study of early pre-AIDS epidemic HIV-1 group M viruses. Phylogenetic analyses position this viral sequence (DRC60) closest to the ancestral node of subtype A (excluding A2). Relaxed molecular clock analyses incorporating DRC60 and ZR59 date the most recent common ancestor of the M group to near the beginning of the twentieth century. The sizeable genetic distance between DRC60 and ZR59 directly demonstrates that diversification of HIV-1 in west-central Africa occurred long before the recognized AIDS pandemic. The recovery of viral gene sequences from decades-old paraffin-embedded tissues opens the door to a detailed palaeovirological investigation of the evolutionary history of HIV-1 that is not accessible by other methods.

The reason I'm posting this info now is because I like letting people put their feet in their mouths and destroying their arguments with irrefutable evidence.​

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

AIDS was developed and tested at Ft. Detrick and was infected in fakkits and Africans

Prove it.

Then while you're at it, tell me why its so similar to Simian immunodeficiency virus and Feline immunodeficiency virus

 

[USSInsiders]

Prove it.

Then while you're at it, tell me why its so similar to Simian immunodeficiency virus and Feline immunodeficiency virus

I can't. Believe whatever you feel is true.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I can't. Believe whatever you feel is true.

Thats not how this works.

Support your statements. I've done as much, you should do the same.

 

[USSInsiders]

Thats not how this works.

Support your statements. I've done as much, you should do the same.

How it works? I can say whatever I want, as can you.

If I even attempted to tell you why I feel this way, you'd likely clamor for empirical evidence, and that I have none of.

I have only my word, and the word of a relative, and if you want me to, I can share what he told me with you and this thread.

Growing up, several bizarre coincidences related to this topic have led me to believe they are not coincidences and that instead, AIDS was a human engineered virus, and that it, along with cancer, are continually used to control the human population.

Again, believe whatever you want, but I am not making this up, and neither was my relative.

 

[Slang]

Viruses are created inside the body of living organisms, plant and animal.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How it works? I can say whatever I want, as can you.

If I even attempted to tell you why I feel this way, you'd likely clamor for empirical evidence, and that I have none of.

I have only my word, and the word of a relative, and if you want me to, I can share what he told me with you and this thread.

Growing up, several bizarre coincidences related to this topic have led me to believe they are not coincidences and that instead, AIDS was a human engineered virus, and that it, along with cancer, are continually used to control the human population.

Again, believe whatever you want, but I am not making this up, and neither was my relative.

Stop bringing up bullshyt anecdotes.

...talking about "believe what you want"...fukk that.

Prove it

Cancer has ALWAYS existed you dummy. How the fukk is that recently engineered. Do you even know what cancer is? Its an umbrella term. Its not ONE thing.

We haven't even been able to "engineer" viruses and bacteria for more than like 20-30 years at best...and no where as well as we can TODAY.

Its like you can't deal with the FACT AIDS came from monkeys (who have their own form of the disease) and it jumped to humans.

Do you have a problem with BIRD FLU jumping from other species to humans?

No. Only when it comes into AIDS do nikkas start flipping their shyt and moving the goalposts.

 

[USSInsiders]

Stop bringing up bullshyt anecdotes.

...talking about "believe what you want"...fukk that.
Prove it

Cancer has ALWAYS existed you dummy. How the fukk is that recently engineered. Do you even know what cancer is? Its an umbrella term. Its not ONE thing.

We haven't even been able to "engineer" viruses and bacteria for more than like 20-30 years at best...and no where as well as we can TODAY.

Its like you can't deal with the FACT AIDS came from monkeys (who have their own form of the disease) and it jumped to humans.
Do you have a problem with BIRD FLU jumping from other species to humans?

No. Only when it comes into AIDS do nikkas start flipping their shyt and moving the goalposts.

In reference, to your demand, "Prove it." I already told you I can't.

Try reading what I typed.

I never suggested cancer was recently engineered, I was suggesting that there are elements of the government/military that are purposely suppressing cures and trying to develop weapons using these diseases. And what I was willing to tell you was over 17 years old, god knows what they're doing now.

You took one thing that I said and went on a rant about shyt I already told you I can't prove.

I'm not going to repeat what others in this thread have already stated ad nauseum, but I just wanted to correct your misread of my post.

You only know what people tell you.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

In reference, to your demand, "Prove it." I already told you I can't.

Try reading what I typed.

I never suggested cancer was recently engineered, I was suggesting that there are elements of the government/military that are purposely suppressing cures and trying to develop weapons using these diseases. And what I was willing to tell you was over 17 years old, god knows what they're doing now.

you have NO proof of this beyond mere speculation.

You took one thing that I said and went on a rant about shyt I already told you I can't prove.

I'm not going to repeat what others in this thread have already stated ad nauseum, but I just wanted to correct your misread of my post.

You only know what people tell you.

No. I know what I can demonstrate in a lab if you had the patience to sit through a few years of biology.

 

[USSInsiders]

you have NO proof of this beyond mere speculation.


No. I know what I can demonstrate in a lab if you had the patience to sit through a few years of biology.

Right on both counts, but again, that's not what I'm arguing with you. I have problem with the circumstances, not the science.

There are certain circumstances that don't sit right with me

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Right on both counts, but again, that's not what I'm arguing with you. I have problem with the circumstances, not the science.

There are certain circumstances that don't sit right with me

circumstances don't give a flying fukk about your emotions or facts.

If AIDS had hit in the mid 17th century, would you have a problem?

If Polio was still around, would you claim that was a government conspiracy?

If Ebola was a major problem in the states, would you still bytch about that being government made?

Look. I get it. The "government" has done all sorts of shady shyt in the past...but that is a fallacy to assert that every other thing is therefore equally suspicious.

Just admit you don't understand the science so we can move forward...cause otherwise, you just sound like a fukking idiot. Straight up.

 

[USSInsiders]

circumstances don't give a flying fukk about your emotions or facts.

If AIDS had hit in the mid 17th century, would you have a problem?

If Polio was still around, would you claim that was a government conspiracy?

If Ebola was a major problem in the states, would you still bytch about that being government made?

Look. I get it. The "government" has done all sorts of shady shyt in the past...but that is a fallacy to assert that every other thing is therefore equally suspicious.

Just admit you don't understand the science so we can move forward...cause otherwise, you just sound like a fukking idiot. Straight up.

Again, you don't even understand what circumstances I'm speaking about specifically, you're assuming I'm repeating what another poster/posters in here have already said.

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

yt are pretty much rubbing it in our faces that they intentionally wiped out generations of our people via their hiv virus bio weapon being unleashed on the world black community cause they know Doubting Toms will never accept this and even if they do want do a damn thing about it..i wouldn't be surprised if the average black wouldn't believe in the Tuskegee experiment either which is why these wicked cacs have been so successful in killing so many in the world the black community with their bio weapons of mass destruction.