The Majority Of African Americans Are Descended From - Igbo/Yoruba Tribes

[Apollo Creed]

If you notice there were 4 identified Forest States. These were the empires that Esau traded with during the slave trade in that region. The Kingdom of Kongo is not on this map, but they were another empire that did slave trading from Congo/Angola.

Notice that these states were established around the exact same time that Esau began to do his conquering of the Americas. If you look up the Asante Empire, Dahomey Empire, Oyo Empire and Benin Empire. They all had strong partnerships with Esau. Those are the people in Africa that got rich off of the slave trade.

The Igbos came from the Nri Kingdom which began to decline because of attacks from to separate groups Igala and Benin which led to them being major victims of the slave trade, primarily being sold by the Benin Empire through what is identified in the slave trade as the Bight of Biafra. Again, this is well documented. That is why Igbos are the most heavily documented victims of the slave trade although they were not the only groups that were purposely targeted and victimized.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Real Talk after doing my ancestry I really wonder how many of my ancestors were kidnapped and taken, most of my "relatives" on Ancestory.com are 5-8th cousins so I would assume they were just people of my area who were sold into slavery.

 

[Lewis Black]

Not true lol

 

[Barnett114]

Close thread.

So OP is being a smart dumb nikka again?

 

[ignorethis]

Thought this was common knowledge. Don't know about majority though.

Salute my Igbo akata brethen, iono bout you Yoruba akatas though
j/k most American blacks are probably mixed between several tribes but it's common knowledge that a lot of American blacks most common ancestors are from Angola/Nigeria/Ghana/Cameroon.

 

[ignorethis]

It's important to note that not all Igbo were under the control of Nri Kingdom. Probably only a third were under the sway of Nri. Nri's power was more religious than political. Similar to Arochukwu's importance, although Arochukwu was more willing to use violent force to create hegemony in Igboland.

Igboland has never had a singular ruler. Even when polities like Nri and Arochukwu were around, many Igbo villages/clans were independent of both.

I don't know the full history but I know that their still isn't really one Igbo people, shyt's like a flag, because most of us became Igbo through invasion. My people Ndi-Igbo in Enugu/Anambra have different traditions and hierarchies than say Igbos from Imo State, it's still Igbo Kwenu, but I see that my people don't really function with their people like that. Caste system and what ever are still in place.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I don't know the full history but I know that their still isn't really one Igbo people, shyt's like a flag, because most of us became Igbo through invasion. My people Ndi-Igbo in Enugu/Anambra have different traditions and hierarchies than say Igbos from Imo State, it's still Igbo Kwenu, but I see that my people don't really function with their people like that. Caste system and what ever are still in place.

My family lore says we migrated to Igboland from the Kingdom of Benin and then became blacksmiths. Igbos are a diverse nation.

 

[sun raw]

"ama"= It's historically a common things for us African-Americans to say things like "Ama beat your backside, or "Ama grown backside women/man", and in the south you hear it much, much more than in the north. But most do not know that this term is not just simply a corruption of the English language in regard to "I am" but rather one in which was passed down through our history and derived from our Igbo ancestors. Ama means "I am" in many forms of the Igbo language, and has been one of the words in which we African-Americans have contentiously helled on to.

lol

 

[Marvel]

It's important to note that not all Igbo were under the control of Nri Kingdom. Probably only a third were under the sway of Nri. Nri's power was more religious than political. Similar to Arochukwu's importance, although Arochukwu was more willing to use violent force to create hegemony in Igboland.

Igboland has never had a singular ruler. Even when polities like Nri and Arochukwu were around, many Igbo villages/clans were independent of both.

Your parents did not grow up in that region breh. There were many changes from the fall of Nri which led the fragmentation of the people. That eventually led to the whole Arochukwu rise which are different sect of people. You are talking about a difference of hundreds of years from the middle ages to that time. It did not happen overnight. I happened to talk to some men that were in their late 90s back in '99 as kid that gave me the breakdown of what was happening to our people as passed down their forefathers.

The town my parents grew up was created as refugee town for Igbos that fled the delta area when the Beni people were given guns by Esau to attack and raid Nri villages for slaves. This town was set up for my forefathers back in the mid 1600s. The delta area was always a contested territory between the two groups. If you look at old maps you will see overlap between the two sides. Even til today you have a group people called the Delta Igbo that don't deal with Beni people.

You are going only off of information you read online. Every town has their elders just like it was done in the bible, that is always how they ran things but they always knew that were all the same people for crying out loud they speak the same languages and kept the same customs. I have seen the politics of this format in my parents home. That set is done all the way here in America, it helps when you have a small close knit group of elders thatr can help when in need. My cousin just got married this past weekend, his dad died he was 12...it was the elders from his Father's hometown that raised him, taught him to drive, helped pay for school, made sure he was on the right track, etc. That is why the Eastern part of Nigeria was the hardest and last area to be taken over before the amalgamation in 1914. With elders in each town made it harder to sell out to colonialism as quick unlike in the north, all Esau had to do was talk to the Emir and cut a deal with them and they were cool. They had to be subdued even moreharshly to eventually except colonialism. That has always been how things were run at the local level.

We were not set up like a Caliphate that just listens to a Sultan like what was happening in other places. That was how I began to trace the customs and realized that many of the customs we practiced from circumcision to not eating unclean foods to marrying the widow of your brother if she was childless and even the older dialect which was spoken by the older people born back in the late to early 19th century. When I examined it, it was all broken hebrew including the names the same documented names that many of slave captives had.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Your parents did not grow up in that region breh. There were many changes from the fall of Nri which led the fragmentation of the people. That eventually led to the whole Arochukwu rise which are different sect of people. You are talking about a difference of hundreds of years from the middle ages to that time. It did not happen overnight. I happened to talk to some men that were in their late 90s back in '99 as kid that gave me the breakdown of what was happening to our people as passed down their forefathers.

The town my parents grew up was created as refugee town for Igbos that fled the delta area when the Beni people were given guns by Esau to attack and raid Nri villages for slaves. This town was set up for my forefathers back in the mid 1600s. The delta area was always a contested territory between the two groups. If you look at old maps you will see overlap between the two sides. Even til today you have a group people called the Delta Igbo that don't deal with Beni people.

You are going only off of information you read online. Every town has their elders just like it was done in the bible, that is always how they ran things but they always knew that were all the same people for crying out loud they speak the same languages and kept the same customs. I have seen the politics of this format in my parents home. That set is done all the way here in America, it helps when you have a small close knit group of elders thatr can help when in need. My cousin just got married this past weekend, his dad died he was 12...it was the elders from his Father's hometown that raised him, taught him to drive, helped pay for school, made sure he was on the right track, etc. That is why the Eastern part of Nigeria was the hardest and last area to be taken over before the amalgamation in 1914. With elders in each town made it harder to sell out to colonialism as quick unlike in the north, all Esau had to do was talk to the Emir and cut a deal with them and they were cool. They had to be subdued even moreharshly to eventually except colonialism. That has always been how things were run at the local level.

We were not set up like a Caliphate that just listens to a Sultan like what was happening in other places. That was how I began to trace the customs and realized that many of the customs we practiced from circumcision to not eating unclean foods to marrying the widow of your brother if she was childless and even the older dialect which was spoken by the older people born back in the late to early 19th century. When I examined it, it was all broken hebrew including the names the same documented names that many of slave captives had.

I'm sorry breh but what are you asserting in contrast to what I've said?

 

[Marvel]

I don't know the full history but I know that their still isn't really one Igbo people, shyt's like a flag, because most of us became Igbo through invasion. My people Ndi-Igbo in Enugu/Anambra have different traditions and hierarchies than say Igbos from Imo State, it's still Igbo Kwenu, but I see that my people don't really function with their people like that. Caste system and what ever are still in place.

Breh, the fall of Nri is what led the fragmentation. Then when you add in the formation of states under the construct called Nigeria. You should look up the old state map and see how often they have been broken up. Also some states border other tribes and you have overlapping influences and isolation in culture because of that.

The whole function thing you are referring to is local town politics. If you examine your parents friends, I'm sure that many are from your parents towns, but if something happens to somebody from another town, they will show up like the rescue rangers because they all know that they are the same people. I see this happen all the time. My dad is all about his hometown stuff which I think is fruitless but that is another topic but if Calabari friend is in a jam, he is there to help him out. Because one thing we have to realize is that people went to boarding schools when our parents were growing up, so they did not stick to strictly being local.

 

[ignorethis]

Your parents did not grow up in that region breh. There were many changes from the fall of Nri which led the fragmentation of the people. That eventually led to the whole Arochukwu rise which are different sect of people. You are talking about a difference of hundreds of years from the middle ages to that time. It did not happen overnight. I happened to talk to some men that were in their late 90s back in '99 as kid that gave me the breakdown of what was happening to our people as passed down their forefathers.

I hate the facts that Africans don't believe in writing history down.

I look at my family like when they tell me to ask the grandparents to explain exactly how I'm related to one of my cousins, " You mean you don't know how we're related, once the grandparents die nobody will know?"

 

[Marvel]

I'm sorry breh but what are you asserting in contrast to what I've said?

My bad breh...I stepped away for a little and lost my train of thought on the response when I came back. I guess you can say I just added a more through timeline, but Nri did have kings but the influenced waned due to the decline due to the slave trade.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

My bad breh...I stepped away for a little and lost my train of thought on the response when I came back. I guess you can say I just added a more through timeline, but Nri did have kings but the influenced waned due to the decline due to the slave trade.

Oh okay. I should have explained my point better. Nri did have Eze's but they didn't have control over all of Igboland like the Alaafin's of Oyo did, for example. I was trying to state their influence was more cultural and religious than possessing the monopoly of force to exercise authority which characterizes most states. Though obviously, they did wield a force of armed men.

 

[ignorethis]

Breh, the fall of Nri is what led the fragmentation. Then when you add in the formation of states under the construct called Nigeria. You should look up the old state map and see how often they have been broken up. Also some states border other tribes and you have overlapping influences and isolation in culture because of that.

The whole function thing you are referring to is local town politics. If you examine your parents friends, I'm sure that many are from your parents towns, but if something happens to somebody from another town, they will show up like the rescue rangers because they all know that they are the same people. I see this happen all the time. My dad is all about his hometown stuff which I think is fruitless but that is another topic but if Calabari friend is in a jam, he is there to help him out. Because one thing we have to realize is that people went to boarding schools when our parents were growing up, so they did not stick to strictly being local.

Everything you said is true but I think it's a weird nobility thing going on as well though. Like my parent and their family and close friends are all from Igbo-Ukwu and my dad stresses how important this is on some "we're the first of the igbos and it spread out from our area". I don't know how true this is, African parents like to throw out whales. You're from Houston? What people's club does your family fall into?