Seems some progressives are learning 
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The Long-Shot Candidate Who Has the White House Worried - Joe Biden has a Cornel West problem.
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Krystal ball and Kyle are both off the cornel train
No seriously, if you want my politics, here you go:
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Are you my martyr?
Comrade Motopu on the potential pitfalls when the Left looks to the Right for allies.
Do you think any of these Bernie quotes are actually wrong? Do you think any of them show he doesn't like Black people, just because he cares about class too?
“The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.”
“[W]e are saying that something is wrong … with capitalism…. There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.”
“Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifices. Capitalism was built on the exploitation of Black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor, both black and white, both here and abroad.”
“In a sense, you could say we’re involved in the class struggle. It will be a long and difficult struggle, for our program calls for a redistribution of economic power. Yet this isn’t a purely materialistic or class concern. I feel that this movement in behalf of the poor is the most moral thing — it is saying that every man is an heir to a legacy of dignity and worth.”
"We're dealing in a sense with class issues. We're dealing with the problem of the gulf between the haves and the have-nots, between the privileged and the underprivileged. And we're taking on a mammoth job now, and it isn't going to be easy."
“The unemployed, poverty-stricken white man must be made to realize that he is in the very same boat with the Negro. Together, they could exert massive pressure on the government to get jobs for all. Together they could form a grand alliance. Together, they could merge all people for the good of all.”
“I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic.“
Oh, wait, those are all Martin Luther King Jr quotes. I guess Martin is just a class reductionist, right? So would she be telling Martin to just shut up an that he doesn't give a shyt about Black people?
See, I don't think anyone understands what purpose these low-effort posts by you serve.
Does she think Biden is the one who truly loves Black people in the depths of his heart? Is Bernie blocking some pro-Black initiative that Biden has ready to go? Do you seriously think that talking about class politics is wrong? What's even the point here? She's making low-effort attacks on Bernie that could be used to attack the majority of Black intellectuals and freedom fighters of the last century.
Her twitter history is just a constant stream of DNC boosterism and Biden's face is literally her background. So all the racist receipts on Biden, that's just ignored, but Bernie's far more legitimate concern for race issues is attacked.....why?
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Whats this got to do with you defending Bernie as some unassailable paragon of virtue?
I never said biden was a race reductionist
because this convo is about you being a class reductionist
They’re gently saying you need to read more theory. Just go with it
No seriously, if you want my politics, here you go:
Are you my martyr?
Comrade Motopu on the potential pitfalls when the Left looks to the Right for allies.
Don't look to the right for allies? Okay then, who do we know who loves to brag about doing that?
Joe Biden on racist colleague: 'He never called me boy'
Joe Biden dismissed criticism from “the new New Left” wing of his party that his approach to politics is “old-fashioned” by fondly recalling his experience of “civility” in the Senate as he served with two segregationist senators.
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The fact that you tried to bring up "don't work with the right" to defend Joe fukking Biden of all people. He's ALWAYS said that one of his strengths is that he knows how to work with the right and wishes the Senate was back like those old days where he could do it again.
I mean, in this very fukking thread, didn't you brag that Biden was superior because he can attract Republicans to his cause?
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Nap used to think that looking for allies on the right was great when it was a thing that centrists did.
Nap was all about working across the aisle and looking for allies on the right until opposing it became the new DNC talking point of the month.
This whole comment is the best - Napoleon was on some full on "But economic anxiety is the problem! Whites are only mad because they don't have money right now! We need to reach across the aisle and empathize with them!"
Napoleon was a full-on economic anxiety co-signer! The exact same shyt he falsely accused me of saying, he had already said himself with his whole chest.
Nap was all about working across the aisle and looking for allies on the right until opposing it became the new DNC talking point of the month.
This whole comment is the best - Napoleon was on some full on "But economic anxiety is the problem! Whites are only mad because they don't have money right now! We need to reach across the aisle and empathize with them!"
Napoleon was a full-on economic anxiety co-signer! The exact same shyt he falsely accused me of saying, he had already said himself with his whole chest.
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Nap used to think that looking for allies on the right was great when it was a thing that centrists did.
Nap was all about working across the aisle and looking for allies on the right until opposing it became the new DNC talking point of the month.
This whole comment is the best - Napoleon was on some full on "But economic anxiety is the problem! Whites are only mad because they don't have money right now! We need to reach across the aisle and empathize with them!"
Napoleon was a full-on economic anxiety co-signer! The exact same shyt he falsely accused me of saying, he had already said himself with his whole chest.
... Does this guy have any beliefs that he didn't crudely patch together from whatever the current wave of centrist twitter is pumping out? He has clearly just been repeating shyt he's read other people say online with no actual understanding of what any of it means. Constantly contradicting himself, shytting on one thing just to champion it later or vice versa. Never breaking down any personal beliefs or philosophy, just firing off tweets, articles and videos of anyone he thinks sounds smart to him in that moment.Someone needs to retitle this thread "A case study on Napoleon." This guy is fukking baffling. The way his mind operates is completely alien to me.
Their "theory" equates to more manifestos of unpersuasive ranting
I dont know how anyone tolerates this, especially in the face of obvious counterpoints exposing their flank.
Oh, and lord help you if you disagree with it....guess what you're rewarded with...MORE THEORY
Thats nice except black voters aren't voting against this stuff. White voters are.
Martin was speaking generically to sell his message. Did you think non-violence was only limited his physical stature? He had to sell that shyt to bring people in.
I dont know why you have to be this gullible.
Where did Bernie go in the 2020 South Carolina primary?
How It All Came Apart for Bernie Sanders (Published 2020)
The Sanders campaign appeared on the brink of a commanding lead in the Democratic race. But a series of fateful decisions and internal divisions have left him all but vanquished.
Throwing black voters under the bus is a choice.
DNC boosterism is good if it helps democrats win. I love it.
Wait, is he rejecting the data?
Don't look to the right for allies? Okay then, who do we know who loves to brag about doing that?
Joe Biden on racist colleague: 'He never called me boy'
Joe Biden dismissed criticism from “the new New Left” wing of his party that his approach to politics is “old-fashioned” by fondly recalling his experience of “civility” in the Senate as he served with two segregationist senators.news.yahoo.com
Joe Biden under fire for segregationist senators remarks - BBC News
The Democrat is facing backlash for recalling his "civil" working relationship with segregationists.
Joe Biden loses support of top campaign fundraiser in Bay Area after comments on segregationists and Hyde amendment
Former Vice President Joe Biden loses support of top bundler after segregationist comments and flip-flop on Hyde Amendment.
Here’s How Deep Biden’s Busing Problem Runs
And why the Democrats can’t use it against him.
Joe Biden didn’t just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause in schools, experts say.
Joe Biden helped give America the language that is still used to oppose school integration today, legislative and education history experts say.
Biden Praised Segregationist as ‘Man of Character and Courage’
Joe Biden praised a long-time segregationist as a "man of character and courage" on the floor of the U.S. Senate in 1988.
On Crime Policy, Biden Worked Closely With His Segregationist Friends
The two story lines most corrosive to Biden’s African-American base of support may be converging.
Biden defends comments on segregationist Democrats after criticism from 2020 challengers
Former Vice President Joe Biden is coming under fire for comments he made about working alongside Democrats who supported segregation.
Joe Biden and the Dixiecrats Who Helped His Career
Vice President Joe Biden talked about his mentor James O. Eastland at a rally for Democrat Doug Jones in Birmingham, Ala., in 2017.
Biden’s competitors want an apology for his boasting about “civility” with segregationists
“I’m disappointed that he hasn’t issued an immediate apology,” said Sen. Cory Booker.
How Joe Biden 'Sided' with George Wallace and Jefferson Davis
No one should presume ill about Joe Biden’s own heart regarding race. But Biden spent much of his career cozy with politicians who embraced Jim Crow.
Biden refuses to apologise for working with racist senators
Amid a political firestorm, the top Democrat insists "there's not a racist bone in my body".www.bbc.com
Biden Rejects Calls to Apologize for Praise of Segregationist
Bill de Blasio, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris call out Joe Biden over praise of racist senator from Mississippi who championed segregation.
The fact that you tried to bring up "don't work with the right" to defend Joe fukking Biden of all people. He's ALWAYS said that one of his strengths is that he knows how to work with the right and wishes the Senate was back like those old days where he could do it again.
I mean, in this very fukking thread, didn't you brag that Biden was superior because he can attract Republicans to his cause?
Biden gets votes for his policies to enable law.
He doesn't appeal to ambiguous white working class voters to throw traditional core bases under the bus.
You're playing a thin game of bullshyt here and it's stunning to observe.
Nap out here trying to argue why the republic is flawed in real life, not realizing he's arguing with people consumed by the thought experiment.
Wait, is he rejecting the data?
I peeped game when they did this move when they said "among black people the top 10% of black people" have 90% of the wealth or some bullshyt...
but they ignore that the top 10% of black people...are not even in the top 10% of white people
They're comparing two different cohorts as if they're supposed to be equal then saying therefore we need universalist policies
Look, I get legally why you need universalist policies but it's a lie to say that black high earners are the same as white high earners. It's overt bullshyt.
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