The Lil Yachty Interview on Everyday Struggle PROVES why the culture aint been NOTHIN but DOWNHILL..

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Why would u blame HOV? :patrice: shyt if anything....I would blame Dame for opening the door to emo nggas like Kanye....which in turn gave birth to Kudis....so on nd so fourth. Which were fine....but now look what it has spiraled into? :scust: I also place blame the South :scust:Once they let Lil John in...everything went downhill from there :scusthov:
Kanye paid his dues in the game and came up through hard work, and good fortune. Yes, he was different than what was going on at the time (super thug, street gangster, hustler, hood rap) but he still had a connection to true hip hop. He made trax for the hood dudes. he just paved the way for dudes to be out the box alil, i.e. outkast.
lil wayne is to blame for the culture spiraling downhill, to where its almost a disgrace. He used a fake gang street persona to get younger hip hop fans into a rocker, skate board culture. And inside of that culture theres alotta fukkery. Pill popping, homo-tendencies, disrespecting of things that came before (dismantling of older ways and ideals tends to be a caucasian thing imo, minorites tend to honor the past, and show reverence).
I think the biggest issue for me personally is that he is the one to help usher southern hip hop's culture completely into the up-north east coast. Things like making it rain, and the strip club lifestyle (glorification of strippers). The infatuation with drugs and being "stoned". The making of music with no substance at all just a good beat and nonsense.
All these things were a part of what I saw as I grew further and further away from hip hop.
Wayne should actually be proud that he had such and impact on something so big in his lifetime
 

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Wow, the Coli is not open to change....what else is new:yawn:

Lil Yachty is just spreading positivity and making the genre more accessible to everyone. I mean, wouldn't you want more people to discover the joy of hip hop through an artist that is more palatable to their liking.
 

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Kanye paid his dues in the game and came up through hard work, and good fortune. Yes, he was different than what was going on at the time (super thug, street gangster, hustler, hood rap) but he still had a connection to true hip hop. He made trax for the hood dudes. he just paved the way for dudes to be out the box alil, i.e. outkast.
lil wayne is to blame for the culture spiraling downhill, to where its almost a disgrace. He used a fake gang street persona to get younger hip hop fans into a rocker, skate board culture. And inside of that culture theres alotta fukkery. Pill popping, homo-tendencies, disrespecting of things that came before (dismantling of older ways and ideals tends to be a caucasian thing imo, minorites tend to honor the past, and show reverence).
I think the biggest issue for me personally is that he is the one to help usher southern hip hop's culture completely into the up-north east coast. Things like making it rain, and the strip club lifestyle (glorification of strippers). The infatuation with drugs and being "stoned". The making of music with no substance at all just a good beat and nonsense.
All these things were a part of what I saw as I grew further and further away from hip hop.
Wayne should actually be proud that he had such and impact on something so big in his lifetime

No offense, are you Mormon or Southern Baptist? You sound like a Straight Edge type of Rap fan, like the slightest thing irks you that's usually human nature.

You realize you just hate Wayne just because, and somehow don't remember that he was the last to "bandwagon" on all these trends? nikkas were already doing that extreme sports shyt (DMX loved riding ATV's) and taking drugs LONG BEFORE he got you thinking he made that shyt.

And seriously, you think he made the "Make it rain" thing up, THAT LATE the moment he became popular? What Southern rapper who had hits in the 00's wasn't on that Club shyt?
Nelly, T.I., Luda, Ross, 3 6, Trick Daddy, Yin Yang Twins, etc. already had that lane on lock before Wayne integrated himself.
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Most rappers had fake gangster personas nikka, very few even have misdemeanors on their rap sheets. Who do you think influenced Wayne to have that persona?
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Prodigy wasn't a gangsta, Pac wasn't either, Outkast weren't, Twista too at the beginning of his actual career, etc. If they were, their careers wouldn't have lasted as long as they did (people around them died frequently), plus they had Mainstream acceptable images nobody to this day had problems with. Wayne like them grew up entirely around street nikkas, and fukked up households (well Pac had a nice childhood and role models, but you get the point).

:mjpls: You giving Wayne credit for shyt he had nothing to do with, compared to rappers before and after him we're much more successful or influential in those lanes, also some who preceded his own life at the time.
 
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I quit having to react to artists in the Yachty vein.The relevance of artists like that is based off cheap marketing tricks and gullable youth consumers.If we're talking numbers most of the artist that actually take some pride in their art are the ones doing the big numbers now.Not a big Aubrey fan but the talent is there,Big Sean gets better with each release,K dot pushes the envelope,J Cole's blue collar approach is winning,Logic does his numbers.I think that the importance of artist like Yachty is cosmetic and in part dictated by record labels and media outlets wanting to capitalize off a wave.Thats where the gay pandering and 2.0 shucking and jiving comes from.What makes me sad is that for the most part i think the kids see through that shyt but they get bombarded with the minstrel shyt to the point that it's hard to escape it's influence on youth culture.
 

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Hip hop has always had room for everybody. Just respect the originators and the people who it's based on.

Exactly. Hip hop has always had layers to it.

Kool Keith was doing "nerd" sh*t back in '88. Native Tounges were regular suburban type cats.

Chubb Rock and Brand Nubian were making music for HBCU kids.

Hip-hop has always represented the multiple facets of the black experience.

The main issue I have is that lyricism is being downplayed and people only want to hear jingles instead of bars.
 

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"Old bitter nggas" sleep tho...this is what these young goofy nggas try to pass off as poppin :scust:.....



Nggas wouldnt even break weed up on this BS.....:pacspit:
 

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:jbhmm:.....Its already been proven these"fake ass drug dealers" were affiliated wit real street nggas or dabbled in the streets themselves. Fif (Supreme), Nas (Black Jus, Supreme Team, Jungle), Pac (H. Jack, Tut, etc.)...so on nd so forth....so why do cats keep floatin it out like all these nggas werent really in the streets? :patrice:Oh I know why :gladbron: suburban nggas so far removed from real life they cant fathom nggas bein in real situations..Theres levels to everything obviously...but all those rappers were affiliated at the least.

They were still fake...and were getting their ass extorted and then would go on wax and act like they were something to be afraid of....


Lol how you gonna tell another man's life and adopt another man's persona to sell records and not be considered fake?


These nikkas were multimillionaires and in the streets with street nikkas so they can get their street cred so nikkas would call them "real" and so White people would be enamored with their music...how fake can you get...:mjlol:

Rap in the 90s and early 00s was WWE on wax.


nikkas need to face reality...the shyt was corny and fake as fukk...

nikkas calling themselves Dons and Papi and Corleone and shyt...:hhh:
 

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Wow, the Coli is not open to change....what else is new:yawn:

Lil Yachty is just spreading positivity and making the genre more accessible to everyone. I mean, wouldn't you want more people to discover the joy of hip hop through an artist that is more palatable to their liking.

Lil Yachty rapping about fukking bytches and having hoes isn't posititvity...

Let's stop that bullshyt...

Hip Hop already is very much accessible and moves according to White people's and Women's taste and an artist figuring out what is most likely to sell.
 

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They were still fake...and were getting their ass extorted and then would go on wax and act like they were something to be afraid of....


Lol how you gonna tell another man's life and adopt another man's persona to sell records and not be considered fake?


These nikkas were multimillionaires and in the streets with street nikkas so they can get their street cred so nikkas would call them "real" and so White people would be enamored with their music...how fake can you get...:mjlol:

Rap in the 90s and early 00s was WWE on wax.


nikkas need to face reality...the shyt was corny and fake as fukk...

nikkas calling themselves Dons and Papi and Corleone and shyt...:hhh:

Ngga its still art at the core.:hhh:Now Im not talkin about the..."stealin a ngga whole persona" on some Rozay shyt (which I hope your not a fan of) :mjpls:....but the aliases...mob tales...etc were just paintin a picture nd tellin a story along wit the bars. Nggas still rapped about hood shyt nd black street crime right along wit the mob shyt Both had a lot of shyt in common, so what are u sayin? :patrice:Better yet what were u listenin to at the time?
 

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Real quick... No where did i say wayne started anything. I said, in my opinion, he was the one to successfully shift alot of the white, skate board culture to hip hop. and also i said he was the one to bring the southern culture to the up north east coast. There were artist doing similar things before him, Lil wayne was the artist to bridge that gap. Before that, Up North dudes would never do anything a down south person would do. we thought of them as slow and corny. when wayne got hot and latched on to dipset (who were at their peak in NY at that time) he was able to get those fans to to listen and become fans.
You might want to go back and re-read what I wrote. Peace to you tho.
 

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No offense, are you Mormon or Southern Baptist? You sound like a Straight Edge type of Rap fan, like the slightest thing irks you that's usually human nature.

You realize you just hate Wayne just because, and somehow don't remember that he was the last to "bandwagon" on all these trends? nikkas were already doing that extreme sports shyt (DMX loved riding ATV's) and taking drugs LONG BEFORE he got you thinking he made that shyt.

And seriously, you think he made the "Make it rain" thing up, THAT LATE the moment he became popular? What Southern rapper who had hits in the 00's wasn't on that Club shyt?
Nelly, T.I., Luda, Ross, 3 6, Trick Daddy, Yin Yang Twins, etc. already had that lane on lock before Wayne integrated himself.
:snoop:
Most rappers had fake gangster personas nikka, very few even have misdemeanors on their rap sheets. Who do you think influenced Wayne to have that persona?
:sas2:
Prodigy wasn't a gangsta, Pac wasn't either, Outkast weren't, Twista too at the beginning of his actual career, etc. If they were, their careers wouldn't have lasted as long as they did (people around them died frequently), plus they had Mainstream acceptable images nobody to this day had problems with. Wayne like them grew up entirely around street nikkas, and fukked up households (well Pac had a nice childhood and role models, but you get the point).

:mjpls: You giving Wayne credit for shyt he had nothing to do with, compared to rappers before and after him we're much more successful or influential in those lanes, also some who preceded his own life at the time.
Real quick... No where did i say wayne started anything. I said, in my opinion, he was the one to successfully shift alot of the white, skate board culture to hip hop. and also i said he was the one to bring the southern culture to the up north east coast. There were artist doing similar things before him, Lil wayne was the artist to bridge that gap. Before that, Up North dudes would never do anything a down south person would do. we thought of them as slow and corny. when wayne got hot and latched on to dipset (who were at their peak in NY at that time) he was able to get those fans to to listen and become fans.
You might want to go back and re-read what I wrote. Peace to you tho.
 

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Wow, the Coli is not open to change....what else is new:yawn:

Lil Yachty is just spreading positivity and making the genre more accessible to everyone. I mean, wouldn't you want more people to discover the joy of hip hop through an artist that is more palatable to their liking.

Hip hop has always had room for everybody. Just respect the originators and the people who it's based on.

People like you are exactly what's wrong. There's "room for everybody", so there are no standards. Hip-hop is supposed to be diverse, but i have no idea why that has meant garbage can just get a pass. No one calls out wackness. Ya'll are actually defending Lil Yachty, a nikka with no talent whatsover. But he has white people pushing him and many other talentess goofs like him to be stars, ya'll like "Let em cook"
Yeah wack nikkas been cooking, and now they the majority and the culture has gotten destroyed
 
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