The "let's not take this shyt so seriously" AEW news & fukkery thread

[Novembruh]

honest question:
how would it have hurt the Death Riders if they jumped in and Hobbs got a DQ win instead of losing via submission following a no-sell of a top-rope move, considering it ends with him getting jumped and Pillmanized anyways?

If the match was going to lead to that anyways, the only reason you don't end it in DQ is if you want to make it VERY CLEAR that Moxley > Hobbs even at his best.

Like... no one would have been hurt and Hobbs would have been helped by the DQ. It would have made the Death Riders even more problematic to deal with, because no only will they show up and do fukkery, but they'll get Moxley DQed to keep anyone else from even sniffing the title if they think he's in trouble, which now mandates that you neutralize the squad to even get a chance to win the title.

But instead, uberheel Moxley just... wins... clean... by submission... in a heroic effort of tanking all the damage from the bigger stronger black man to get himself a gutcheck choke-out victory despite bleeding all over the place and being mauled by an 'animalistic' attack

if you look at it objectively, they've been booking Moxley like the righteous hero fighting a war against greater odds for the 'soul of AEW' this whole time, and like... was this what we were meant to be doing here? I was under the impression they were an invading force trying to hold down the rest of the roster who don't fit into their vision.

Then why are they booking this man like a valiant hero in the 3rd act?

 

[Jmare007]

WBD has to be happy at least for today. 'Dynamite' did 679K on TBS alone without 'Max' factored in. Despite what some lonely internet nerds will try to tell you, Max is in 100,000,000 million homes.

Funny how certain people were terribly wrong about all this..

Someone should go on the stinks thread and do baseless projections to argue in favor of Dynamite doing "1 million" this week if you add up the TBS number and the "potential viewers" on Max

 

[Larry]

Speaking of Omega, I'm curious on most fans aew origin story. I remember seeing Omega in njpw mainly WK matches. Then All In got announced and i made plans with my friend to go. I remember that summer njpw had a show in daytona beach so we went up there. Other than the race track and some small pier, boring ass city. Saw Kenny there and got a pic. Don't know where the hell it went. Prolly on an old device or got deleted.

So i knew if Kenny but not really the bucks. I think I knew more of the briscoes than the bucks. Didn't know about hangman either or any of the other indie stuff they had. I just knew kenny from njpw and cody from wwe. So that's what drew me to aew or All In since that was the start cuz it was something different. I wasn't informed about all this indie shyt like all these sickos were. And seeing how he didn't get a good reaction when he was with them, should tell the bucks to keep their asses at home.

I used to be super heavy on the Indys way back when, and being from California I was a PWG goonie, so naturally once AEW was announced and I saw the Bucks and Omega was involved, I was on board..


I still fukk with AEW, always will.. but people who keep pointing to that tv deal at the face of any criticism kinda remind of me of WWE fans that would ignore the shrinking audiences, miserable backstage morale etc. because the company broke some financial records. Like yeah, that’s cute and all.. but do yall not see everything else that’s happening?? Lol


I think AEW will figure it out and get into another groove eventually though. Right now shyt is not really interesting but that’s the wrestling cycle. WWE gon cool off sooner or later, it’s just the nature of this shyt

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Hell yeah, he's shown countless times he's the consistent draw they have. It's hilarious that the thing that hurt him most when it come to audience interest was when he returned to The Elite with the Bucks

Omega is their Sting. Unfortunately it was years beyond Sting's prime before he was ever credited as a draw... even though the criticism of him as a top guy was ridiculous, it took years for Sting to receive his flowers.

Omega is a lot like this where he's clearly the franchise, clearly THE guy that AEW fans want to support and often times he's positioned in shyt that doesn't help him or the company.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Someone should go on the stinks thread and do baseless projections to argue in favor of Dynamite doing "1 million" this week if you add up the TBS number and the "potential viewers" on Max

You won't see me signing up to Truth Social Lol. If I'm tagged or something (which is pretty often Lol) then I'll engage but other than that it's usually not worth it, there's several things on this board that are more interesting.

That said, we have no idea how many viewers Max adds to their numbers. That "chart" that gets spread around isn't an accurate depiction of Max's market penetration clearly seeing as they have several shows that break into the water cooler discussions such as 'Euphoria' or 'House of the Dragon' or 'The Last of Us' etc.. and everyone under the sun has reported their subscriber numbers to be 100+ million...

Do I think a lot of people are watching on Max? I really don't know and there's no real way to find out.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I still fukk with AEW, always will.. but people who keep pointing to that tv deal at the face of any criticism kinda remind of me of WWE fans that would ignore the shrinking audiences, miserable backstage morale etc. because the company broke some financial records. Like yeah, that’s cute and all.. but do yall not see everything else that’s happening?? Lol

I don't think this paints the full picture of how those discussions play out though. You're right that WWE fans did used to use the "financials" as a way to distract or wave away the poor attendance figures and dwindling ratings for RAW but when I see people do the same thing for AEW when they say AEW got the bag (even I've made that joke before), it's partly in jest because they are throwing it back in the face of those WWE fans circa 2011-2019

It goes both ways too. It's like when AEW said they weren't going to release anyone and now they are releasing people or freezing contracts like WWE does..

It's all hypocritical nonsense, it's all corporate nonsense... the stans can't see that AEW and WWE are the same thing

 

[Reality Check]

Someone should go on the stinks thread and do baseless projections to argue in favor of Dynamite doing "1 million" this week if you add up the TBS number and the "potential viewers" on Max

Heads might explode if you go in there saying Dynamite got 14.9 million unique views live on MAX

 

[mannyrs13]

I used to be super heavy on the Indys way back when, and being from California I was a PWG goonie, so naturally once AEW was announced and I saw the Bucks and Omega was involved, I was on board..


I still fukk with AEW, always will.. but people who keep pointing to that tv deal at the face of any criticism kinda remind of me of WWE fans that would ignore the shrinking audiences, miserable backstage morale etc. because the company broke some financial records. Like yeah, that’s cute and all.. but do yall not see everything else that’s happening?? Lol


I think AEW will figure it out and get into another groove eventually though. Right now shyt is not really interesting but that’s the wrestling cycle. WWE gon cool off sooner or later, it’s just the nature of this shyt

thats what i like about yall in Cali. there's a big indie scene and more stuff going on out there. i gotta look more into the local scene here cuz i dont think i've heard much. lot of shows that i see listed on cagematch are further up north like nxt and the homecoming collision and stuff around tampa. i see gangrel has some shyt and a few others. may have to do some research and see if anything good.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Heads might explode if you go in there saying Dynamite got 14.9 million unique views live on MAX

“But but TBS didn’t crack a mil” would be their crutch to lean on.

 

[MenacingMonk]

thats what i like about yall in Cali. there's a big indie scene and more stuff going on out there. i gotta look more into the local scene here cuz i dont think i've heard much. lot of shows that i see listed on cagematch are further up north like nxt and the homecoming collision and stuff around tampa. i see gangrel has some shyt and a few others. may have to do some research and see if anything good.

Been SoCal Indy Gang since 2000, way before it became popular. Hitting up local Indy companies like UPW, XPW, Rev Pro (not the UK one) annd many others. Even have a picture with Cena when he was the Prototype. Going to PWG shows when they started up was something to see. Didn’t expect them to hit as big as they became.

Got out of it for a decade, but when I got back into in 2017 it was cool to see these current crop of talent rise. Seeing Shotzi, PK/Gigi, Lucha Bros, Swerve, and many others before they really made it big.

I laugh when these jackasses wanna label me a stan when I watched so many of these wrestlers, whether in WWE or AEW, before most knew who they were. They don’t know how deep my fandom for pro wrestling is. I even got to see pro wrestling shows in the Grand Olympic Auditorium. I watched New Jack dive off a balcony several times in that arena.

 

[Norrin Radd]

 

[mannyrs13]

i just discovered this website and was looking thru it.

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seems like they got shyt all over the world. not sure how updated it is. freaking russia got something in moscow, shyt over in iraq, middle east, all over. i even see Chile got a bunch of feds listed @Jmare007

i even see some shyt in canada, some deep north type shyt over by alaska. thats gotta be cold as hell.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Not every talent is gonna be like Penta. He has the look and can work. The fact he debuted in Cali was a good look too.

Wrestlers are just as delusional as fans. They see one person’s success and think they can be on the same spot too. And not just that, but they don’t factor in long term.

Not saying Penta’s future is dim because it’s not right to judge it right now, but Jade is a perfect example of having a hot debut only to just float around as a buddy. And Jade is one of a kind too.

 

[br82186]

For every Jericho there is a Steve Williams

And for every Hall and Nash there is a Bret Hart

 

[Mr. Negative]

Speaking of Omega, I'm curious on most fans aew origin story. I remember seeing Omega in njpw mainly WK matches. Then All In got announced and i made plans with my friend to go. I remember that summer njpw had a show in daytona beach so we went up there. Other than the race track and some small pier, boring ass city. Saw Kenny there and got a pic. Don't know where the hell it went. Prolly on an old device or got deleted.

So i knew if Kenny but not really the bucks. I think I knew more of the briscoes than the bucks. Didn't know about hangman either or any of the other indie stuff they had. I just knew kenny from njpw and cody from wwe. So that's what drew me to aew or All In since that was the start cuz it was something different. I wasn't informed about all this indie shyt like all these sickos were. And seeing how he didn't get a good reaction when he was with them, should tell the bucks to keep their asses at home.

Knew Kenny Omega and the Bucks by name only. Watched njpw's G1 for the first time cause I heard AJ was there. Im not even sure if I was watching wrestling like that at the time. If I was, it was Lucha Underground.

It was very , legit some of the best wrestling I had ever seen. I gave up on New Japan when Cody and Omega were having their lil Civil War.


They started AEW, there were wrestlers from both NJPW and LU, it was a no brainer to me. IT was the talent plus this air of "wrestlers unhappy in WWE, lets see who jump ship"