The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

[5n0man]

Cool. You don't like it.

But how do we actually know how bad it is or isn't until it's out?

I'm not talking about you specifically, but it's funny seeing people complain about bad storytelling and whatnot, when nearly every creator alive will tell you that ultimately, while the result of the story is important, how you tell it is just as, if not more, important.

When it comes to video games, player enjoyment must always outweigh a creative vision. Kojima found that out the hard way.

The story could be great, that doesn't change the fact that players will be forced to play as someone they dont like and it will effect enjoyment of the game. Metal gear solid 2 could have had the best storyline of any metal gear games and it would still be negatively impacted by the fact that you weren't playing as Snake.

Theres a way to introduce new characters and ideas, this wasnt a good way to introduce Abby to the player and get them excited to play her storyline or understand her position.

 

[Legal]

When it comes to video games, player enjoyment must always outweigh a creative vision. Kojima found that out the hard way.

The story could be great, that doesn't change the fact that players will be forced to play as someone they dont like and it will effect enjoyment of the game. Metal gear solid 2 could have had the best storyline of any metal gear games and it would still be negatively impacted by the fact that you weren't playing as Snake.

Theres a way to introduce new characters and ideas, this wasnt a good way to introduce Abby to the player and get them excited to play her storyline or understand her position.

I agree, but people are jumping to conclusions from spoilers that are effectively an overview or summary of the plot, and if recent developments are to be believed, might not have the full story straight anyway.

It's incredibly difficult to tell if a game is going to be great or trash before it comes out, even more so if all you have to work off of is a summary of events. It's like determining if a game is good or not solely off its Wikipedia page.

 

[5n0man]

I agree, but people are jumping to conclusions from spoilers that are effectively an overview or summary of the plot, and if recent developments are to be believed, might not have the full story straight anyway.

It's incredibly difficult to tell if a game is going to be great or trash before it comes out, even more so if all you have to work off of is a summary of events. It's like determining if a game is good or not solely off its Wikipedia page.

You really dont have to play the game to get that the order of the way the events take place is terrible. It could be a great game all the way till the end but the decision to have abby kill a beloved character then thrust control of her into the player's hands without proper build up just screams of some game of thrones shock value type of storytelling.

Metal gear solid 2 is a perfect example. They promoted snake as the main character just like ellie in this game, only to pull a bullshyt twist and introduce a random ass character. Only it's worse with last of us because they're gonna start the player off with bad impressions of Abby.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Still gonna cop day 1

 

[Easy-E]

The only thing I'm gonna say is; ND missed an opportunity to ease people into the things we already know.

That State of Play was weird knowing what we're not supposed to.

Ellie this and Ellie that.

 

[Brandeezy]

The only thing I'm gonna say is; ND missed an opportunity to ease people into the things we already know.

That State of Play was weird knowing what we're not supposed to.

Ellie this and Ellie that.

Not really, they stated that Ellie is the main protagonist during E3

 

[Easy-E]

Not really, they stated that Ellie is the main protagonist during E3

That's not what I'm talking about. I forgot I was in the spoiler thread.

They're not doing themselves any favors not mentioning Abby at all. That's who I meant.

 

[Brandeezy]

That's not what I'm talking about. I forgot I was in the spoiler thread.

They're not doing themselves any favors not mentioning Abby at all. That's who I meant.

Why not? They never mentioned that you play as Ellie in the first and lied when asked about it. That's like Kojima spoiling the fact that you play as this guy named Raiden in MGS2 when it was meant to be a surprise.

 

[Easy-E]

Why not? They never mentioned that you play as Ellie in the first and lied when asked about it. That's like Kojima spoiling the fact that you play as this guy named Raiden in MGS2 when it was meant to be a surprise.

False equivalency.

Neither game had this controversy.

 

[Brandeezy]

False equivalency.

Neither game had this controversy.

Because those games didn't leak months before release

 

[Jasonmask]

Didn’t like the first one because of the characters so if I can kill them in this one now my interest has piqued

 

[Kingshango]

Copies of the game are out there.

 

[Easy-E]

Yep, a bunch of perfect scores so far

 

[Blackfyre]

First 3 hours posed on YouTube, it's sure to be taken down at some point.
Edit:

Spoiler: Nuked

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Probably gets taken down today

White Jesus
White Jesus
I already hate this game
That’s what Druckman wanted