The Last of Us Part II | PS4 | June 19th (NO OPEN SPOILERS)

[Fatboi1]

UC2 is Amy as she was lead writer and came up with the Uncharted idea, UC4 is Amy's script Neil just tweaked it (original script had Sam as the villain and dumbass Neil wanted to kill off Elaine in part 2 like for what?)
UC:LL was dope I'll give you that that's why I said I wouldn't mind being pleasantly surprised for their next game
But that's just building off of/extending the ideas created by the people who are no longer there so they already had a laid out template to work with
TLOU1 Neil wasn't even game director Bruce was
They balanced each other out that's why we didn't get the dumb story Neil originally had for the first game because Bruce realized Neil's ideas didn't make sense in the back drop of an apocalypse
Bruce got burned out and left
The games of the past are the result of Neil, Bruce, Amy and the rest of the team working together
That makeup of ND is not the same anymore as Bruce, Amy, and 70% of the developers left
It's all Neil now

It's Neil, Kurt and Anthony. The latter two worked as creative designers in UC4.

The alternate version of TLOU 2 would've been worse from what I read.

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Neil said it would've had Abby joining the community and then betraying Joel later on. It would've been a more open world game in Jackson and even longer than the current version.

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“The game initially was this open world thing," Druckmann said. "And you spent all this time in Jackson." In the final version of the game, we only spend a few streamlined hours in Ellie and Joel's home of Jackson, Wyoming before Abby kills Joel and Ellie begins her quest. But in this alternate version, Abby sticks around for a stretch of time.

“Abby joined the community and you were playing as this new character until she betrayed Joel later on,” Druckmann said. “And it just didn't work because Joel dying is the inciting incident, and you want to get to the inciting incident as quickly as you can.”

This original introduction of Abby was clearly much more of a slow burn and would’ve added several more hours to what is already a surprisingly long single-player game. But more importantly, it would have stalled the main catalyst for the entire story.

Druckmann also admitted that Abby's prominent role in the final version of Last of Us 2 is far smaller than initially intended. "Abby was the concept that made us want to make this game about empathy, interactivity; knowing we could use Joel and Ellie to create that feeling right at the beginning," Druckmann said. "Her role actually kept shrinking and shrinking until we thought this is the right amount for what we need you to feel about Abby."

A controversial 'Last of Us 2' character almost had a different introduction

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

It's Neil, Kurt and Anthony. The latter two worked as creative designers in UC4.

The alternate version of TLOU 2 would've been worse from what I read. Neil said it would've had Abby joining the community and then betraying Joel later on. It would've been a more open world game in Jackson and even longer than the current version.A controversial 'Last of Us 2' character almost had a different introduction

Neil is still the main game director
Alternate version sounds better to me
An open world TLOU sequel would have been dope
We had these big wide open areas that kind of felt like a waste because it was still point a to point b

 

[Fatboi1]

Neil is still the main game director
Alternate version sounds better to me
An open world TLOU sequel would have been dope

but it would've taken longer to get to the eventual moment and you would've been using her even longer, the same complaint some folks had as before.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

but it would've taken longer to get to the eventual moment and you would've been using her even longer, the same complaint some folks had as before.

if you wait 7 years for a game and it has NO MP, then yeah I would expect the single player to be long as hell, especially if it's open world
people would also be complaining if the game were only 10 hours long

 

[TrillSwag]

Y'all really underestimating the impact this had on ND and Neil's reputation
All the classics you remember from the PS3 were the work of Neil, Amy, and Bruce
Amy and Bruce are gone along with 70% of the original developers
UC4 was Amy's script until she left and Neil just tweaked it
Bruce kept Neil's dumb ass ideas in check that's why Part 1 didn't follow Neil's over the top idea of having Tess follow Joel and Ellie around and chop off his arm like for what?
Now everyone is gone, we'll see what Neil can do after Part 2

The fact they thought it was a good idea for half the game to be played as the person who brutally killed Joel. Was a pretty stupid decision. And then having to fight Ellie as Abby?
The gameplay still made up for it. But poor decision on NaughtDog part

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

The fact they thought it was a good idea for half the game to be played as the person who brutally killed Joel. Was a pretty stupid decision. And then having to fight Ellie as Abby?
The gameplay still made up for it. But poor decision on NaughtDog part

I'm replaying on New Game+ so I can replay chapters/encounters with the upgraded weapons
The encounters are great
I wish they went the original route where you play as Abby for a bit in the beginning to get a little bit of her background, Joel and Tommy find her and bring her back to Jackson, you go on open world missions for the 1st half with Abby, maybe Joel playable at some parts, with Ellie still being the main character you play with, as the suspense slowly builds for the eventual encounter, where Joel dies for the actions of his past
Then spend the 2nd half getting your revenge in Seattle playing solely as Ellie where you finally confront Abby
The original script

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has Ellie kill Abby but they changed it

Even if they decided to

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not kill Abby like they decided with Part 2

, it would make more sense since Ellie and her would have had a connection set up in the 1st half of the game
People would also appreciate Abby's character more

 

[TrillSwag]

I'm replaying on New Game+ so I can replay chapters/encounters with the upgraded weapons
The encounters are great
I wish they went the original route where you play as Abby for a bit in the beginning to get a little bit of her background, Joel and Tommy find her and bring her back to Jackson, you go on open world missions for the 1st half with Abby, maybe Joel playable at some parts, with Ellie still being the person you play with, as the suspense slowly builds for the eventual encounter, where Joel dies for the actions of his past
Then spend the 2nd half getting your revenge in Seattle playing solely as Ellie where you finally confront Abby
Even if they didn't decide to

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not kill Abby

, it would make more sense since Ellie and her would have had a connection set up in the 1st half of the game
People would also appreciate Abby's character more

I ran it back on plus as well to play Rambo style with upgrades. I did a lot of sneak kills the first run because low on ammo played on hard.
But Yeah def agree that version would have been more fire. Joel dying so quick In the game took all the suspense and build up away.
And the way the ominous scenes with Joel in the beginning you already knew his death was coming. It didn’t really catch me off guard.

let’s just hope they drop some fire DLC. The engine in this game would be too fire to not capitalize off. They can milk this game like GTA with 5-6 DLCs rolled out over the next few years and charge 20-30 a pop.

 

[Killer Instinct]

What is with this series and the hotel levels being the most stressful?


Edit:

FWIW, I really enjoyed Abby’s story and playing with her character. I’d absolutely buy a 3rd game carried by her.

She's growing on me, which is surprising to me. I can't say what I feel currently confidently until I'm done with the game, but my disposition towards the characters involved is changing a bit.

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

That Alternate storyline woulda been flames and they should of went with that

Gives the diehards more time with a main character and sets up another for a better story.

 

[klientel]

The only women close to that are gunning test and steroids. Even then, their breasts and shoulders still have some sign of being a women. She has the build and pecs of a man.

At my local crossfit gym there are several women with breast like that. Once you start to lose body fat combined with the high amounts of cardio your breast are the first to go. Steroids can reduce breast size too but it's mostly their lifestyle.

She's clearly meant to be a woman. You pretty much see her as a little girl...did you not play the game?

 

[King Jove]

I didn’t know you could hold a human hostage then feed em to the infected

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

I was so relieved when I made it outta da hotel & hospital. shyt, man. That whole shyt was tense.

 

[benjamin]

Bro no she isnt. She has no breast definition. It was fully a pec and the muscle definition would be inpossible for a woman in that environment. They clearly wanted to make her trans but realized the optics of how it would look to make the villain trans and beat women

shes obviously a woman you freaking idiot, the flashbacks tell the truth to that .

 

[Mowgli]

Bro no she isnt. She has no breast definition. It was fully a pec and the muscle definition would be inpossible for a woman in that environment. They clearly wanted to make her trans but realized the optics of how it would look to make the villain trans and beat women

It's a woman. Please accept it. Tryin to use reality. Abby taking shotguns point blank on the hardest difficulty at full life and not dying

Let's not be wrong and strong. Just because Abby isn't on these nerds wanna smash list doesn't make her a dude.

Please accept that Abby is not attractive. These nerds probably poppin off to the characters

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

at thinking a part 3 will flop