The Intellectual Poverty Of The New Socialists

[el_oh_el]

I’m always pushing for the conversation, and civil discourse.
This thread, like most of my threads, was a success.


That’s not a dig at those who prefer the endless flow of trump and his cabinet suck threads.

Fair enough.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

I don't vet authors....

I'm gonna use that one.

 

[DEAD7]

I don't vet authors....

I'm gonna use that one.

 

[Cynic]

Who is self-actualised in the deregulated capitalist system? Only those born to the right set of parents.

Those who create value within it and become financially successful?

 

[Cynic]

Neg neg neg emotional post emotional post. @JahFocus CS called me a "bedbuck clown" in a neg. Yea you guys believe in your views so much you attack anybody who disagrees. Lower Learning is a complete fukking joke.

Are you not married to a woman of European descent ?

 

[714562]

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[Professor Emeritus]

Richard Epstein is super-annoying, so it wouldn't surprise me if he said all of these things, but you should have dropped links to these essays.

I started with the links embedded, and then I thought, "Wait a second, by linking all these essays aren't I promoting racist material? This might even increase the SEO for that crap." So I deleted the links. But the titles of the essays are exactly what I wrote, google the titles and you'll find them immediately.

For example:

The Shooting of Blacks by Cops and the Rush to Judgement

Epstein uses a link from a racist conservative blog to suggest that Philando Castile, a freaking nutrition services supervisor, might really have been a robber and not an innocent victim:

The facts are still coming in and at least one recent account insists that Castile’s automobile was not stopped for a broken tail light, but because Castile matched the picture of a suspect involved in a recent robbery in a nearby convenience store, meaning the stop was connected to a past felony.

There is also some evidence that a handgun that matched the kind used in the convenience store was found near Castile’s hand, leaving the question of why, if Castile were reaching for his license, the gun was at his side.

Epstein claims that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense and that was proven in trial. But that was NOT proven in trial, most of the jurors actually said they thought Zimmerman got away with murder, there just wasn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

A similar thing happened in the case of Trayvon Martin. At trial, his killing was found to be done in self-defense, notwithstanding the rush to judgment the other way. The moral: We need to hear both sides.

Then Epstein goes on to blame Black people in general for police killings of Black people, even the "overreactions" are Black people's own fault for committing so much crime

The more likely explanation for these tragic killings is more sophisticated, and seeks to undercut any connection between individual tragedy and institutional racism. These homicides likely stem from the fear that officers have about their own perceived risks given the so-called “Ferguson effect,” or the higher level of resistance by black citizens to police arrests, especially those conducted by white officers.

There is also the background statistics that are driving individual police behaviors. The rate of criminal conduct by blacks is higher than that for whites, especially in the area of homicides. And with the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement, there is an organized resentment against police that is race-based, leading to higher levels of hostility toward white police officers, especially those making arrests of young black males.

None of this is lost on the cops who face these realities every day. The police are intuitive Bayesians, as it were, meaning they believe that the crime statistics give some indication of potential danger in their confrontations with citizens. So white police officers are more likely to regard interactions with black people as involving relatively higher risks of injury.

Jumpy and scared, they think they are acting in self-defense when they confront a black man, when it turns out that they are just jumping to conclusions. Black officers are less likely to take extreme measures against black men because they may not, at least not to the same extent, regard themselves as subject to the same level of hostility that white officers are. These are rational police adjustments to perceived risks, which in some cases lead to tragic overreactions.

The key point here is that no matter what happened in the Castile case, large claims about institutional racism are hard to connect with the facts on the ground.

Then he blames people complaining about racism for Micah Johnson's murders

Alas, there is a real risk that the harsh rhetoric denouncing racism only makes matters worse. The distribution of low frequency events is always hard to predict. Sometimes they cluster, sometimes they don’t. Here, what really matters is what happens when outraged individuals who are driven by incendiary anti-police rhetoric take the law into their own hands.

Micah Johnson, the Dallas shooter, was an outlier and loner who took to heart the message of the New Black Panther Party that advocates violence against whites in general and Jews in particular. There are reports of similarly inspired violence against police in Tennessee, Missouri and Georgia—but again these events have to be thoroughly investigated...

It is impossible to regard Johnson’s actions as anything other than horrific individual racism. But unlike the police who have killed black men, he was motivated by divisive mainstream rhetoric.

Then he quotes John Lott, a known liar and statistical manipulator who is basically banned from academia now for his continued distortions and instead makes his living promoting fake stats for right-wing issues (anti-black, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and pro-gun), and claims that Black people aren't arrested enough

The first thing that the President should do is acknowledge the enormous progress that has been made. Instead, he lists a dubious set of statistical claims: blacks are pulled over more frequently for traffic stops and they are subject to higher arrest rates for homicides.

Obama has rightly been criticized on this front by the ever-alert John Lott for ignoring the underlying rate of violations, especially in connection with arrest rates for homicide, which are twice as high for blacks even though they are six times as likely than whites to commit homicide. Under-enforcement looks like the more serious charge.

That's just one of the many such essays he has written.

 

[GPBear]

I’m always pushing for the conversation, and civil discourse.
This thread, like most of my threads, was a success.


That’s not a dig at those who prefer the endless flow of trump and his cabinet suck threads.

It was a resounding failure you fuccking numbskull.

 

[DEAD7]

It was a resounding failure you fuccking numbskull.

If you say so

 

[acri1]

I started with the links embedded, and then I thought, "Wait a second, by linking all these essays aren't I promoting racist material? This might even increase the SEO for that crap." So I deleted the links. But the titles of the essays are exactly what I wrote, google the titles and you'll find them immediately.

For example:

The Shooting of Blacks by Cops and the Rush to Judgement

Epstein uses a link from a racist conservative blog to suggest that Philando Castile, a freaking nutrition services supervisor, might really have been a robber and not an innocent victim:


Epstein claims that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense and that was proven in trial. But that was NOT proven in trial, most of the jurors actually said they thought Zimmerman got away with murder, there just wasn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.


Then Epstein goes on to blame Black people in general for police killings of Black people, even the "overreactions" are Black people's own fault for committing so much crime




Then he blames people complaining about racism for Micah Johnson's murders




Then he quotes John Lott, a known liar and statistical manipulator who is basically banned from academia now for his continued distortions and instead makes his living promoting fake stats for right-wing issues (anti-black, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and pro-gun), and claims that Black people aren't arrested enough




That's just one of the many such essays he has written.

Be careful about calling this guy racist after all you don't want to be accused of being mean to and/or alienating Trump supporters instead of engaging them intellectually

Spoiler

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

"Heh. Us Ron Paul guys are the REAL intellectuals. Take that, socialists."

"Yo, this dude is racist as fukk."

"I don't vet authors. Another resounding success for civil discourse."(charlie's cigar has crack and hiv in it)

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

usually not on their own

Those who create value within it and become financially successful?